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  • #46
    Originally posted by bigroller08 View Post
    it's hard to be interested in your mind when you don't know the difference between they're, there, and their
    well i must agree with this fact..
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    • #47
      getting to the nub of this discussion

      Despite much of the ranting included in barbie's initial post, there is a lot of insight and truth. The one that most strikes me is this line here:

      "i didn't become a woman to fuck undercover faggots up the ass. Please treat me like a girl, and respect that, and just fuck me."

      I entirely see the logic of her argument. A male doesn't transition to be a female into order to fuck men; that's just counter intuitive. Logically, she makes the change either to,a) be a bottom to a male, or b) be a lesbian with a woman.


      Here's the weird contradiction: The majority of men who are attracted to tgirls appear to be looking for 'chicks with dicks', and to be fucked by them. Whether this means that they are homosexuals that can't come out all the way, or just submissive males who are looking for a female to take dominance to the next level, I don't know.

      I don't think there is another sexual orientation, in terms of pairings with partners, that is as contradictory. Certainly straights, gays/lesbians, and bis don't suffer this conflict.

      Finally, speaking as one of these males that Barbie has such contempt for, my own reactions are, 'is this the way tgirls really feel about me?' If so, then the heck with it; why would any male want to have sex with someone who holds them in such contempt? As for the 'alpha males' she is seeking; chances are that they will only be attracted to her once she completes her transition. That's not a reflection on her; just on the apparent reality of the situation under discussion.



      Last edited by pbb2; 08-23-2012, 07:55 AM. Reason: grammar

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      • #48
        Its one of my girlfriend replay !

        Long but juicy REAL TALK!!! Talking with my old school ex dragon butch queen now. We talked all night. It's not that I knock the butch queen in drag to work claiming as TS and using fake pics. It's how they conduct themselves that ruin the WOMAN illusion that a "straight and or bi/curious male seeks. Demolishing the CRAFT. Its repulsive to hear or witness your dragon (non passable bugger drag) get told your " breath taking" or your passable or your 6'7 and i would NOT have known your a TS/TG WOMAN in public by the same men a TG would give the time of day (aesthetic wise) with NOT 1moan, counseling, job/public humiliation, WEEKLY/MONTHLY maintenance and time a SLOW ROASTED TG invested (surge or lifestyle). Its a complete MOCKERY DISRESPECT and SLAPP in da FACE ! I'm just saying ! Years ago and till this DAY, it was harder/embarrassing to to GET a job as TG and Not being able to get female on your government documents (which gets spooked) on jobs. (lets not talk about proper non judge HEALTH CARE..ex: go in hospital for stomach pains. Once you say no last menstral cycle im a TG WOMAN. They test you for aids hiv stds when you left the hospital hours later. To only find out your pepto bismal was out of date. With discrimination against US. We resulted to market fantasy unicorns the 3rd sex. Which then any bq, GAY, questioning and or bi/curious MALE who sees & heard or knows a TG WOMAN personally SAW & caught onto her lifestyle. The so called " fab, ovah, coined trades".....the bquid who CHOOSES to then PLAY our TS/TG roles; for work or playtime. This is our LIFE! So they CONDUCT services or playtime as a manly meat with a woman illusion. Which in my opinion TG women handle our craft in a gentle humble or seductive aggressive nature. The bquid's will tolerate explicit derogatory acts or doings. As a TG. You will NOT insult or disrespect the very delicacy of my WORK of ART feminine nature! We can still do wat they do just in a different manner. The bquid's don't get OFFENDED with insults as such. CAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE THEIR LIVES AS WOMEN. So it's NO problem for the bquid-Butch Queen Up In Drag-EX:GAY MEN playing dressup ex: TV Samantha- to condone those treatment acts & doings. So again my bq's up in it to work. It's NOT wat you do but how you do it. Use your bquid pics! Advertise as a cross dresser/TV! Stop taking the oldest profession and take it and abuse it for not even your own category. Names like " TS Annabell Holepuncher" is not representation of a TG WOMAN. Then you charge or take shorts cuz ex: you feel you don't deserve the usual amount because of the lack their of... your claiming to advertising to be. Ex: you feel as though you have to compete with everybody else. Men like OPTIONS! If he wants to see you it's a reason why! He's PHYSICALLY/verbally attracted to your so called illusion given. So never settle for cheap! They will pay up if no one is cheatin themselves. Now touring right after a bquid cleaned a city dry. The demographics of the clienteles mental state changed!!!!! and only and will seek and see ONLY that type of foolery. Again this is my OWN opinion and I'm stoned so I'm thinking deep but the ex bquid (masc body) OVAH Bq friend now Told me he respects me and my point of view. But he said its a perverse despicable mental state of mind where gay men play dress up to get sexual gratification by bending over "masc straight acting men/trade" But will let a Bq top his box only. This has changed the whole views of TG women to "TG" admirers who got misinformed, wrongly educated (ex:gender benders are not TS/TG women...) at least not Yet, and shown what REAL TG WOMEN should NOT act, live, or portray in that character. In conclusion lls... Cunts wanna look like A LOT of trannys.. and TRANNYS are trying to look like REAL CUNTS. Trades/straight acting bi/curious men want to live as MASCULINE males and get yackkkked and slayed to the rhythm of the beat of da drum and treated like CUNTs behind close doors only ( which for gay men it's OVAH to PLAY dress up & make MOCKERY of TG women n get paid or "life" that masc straight acting illusionist (the clients and or TRADEY boys) give and get to gagg on the men's brohole! Lls SO LADIES AND GENTS this goes for "working" up in it for bq's and or just playing on she chat lines and other forms of networks... Am I right, wrong cause I feel like psychology fish right now. Is there a way to ever revert/fix this epidemic ?


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        • #49
          well judging from many of her posts, Barbie seems to be a very angry woman. Either somebody pissed her off, or all men are creeps, or some client was rude or some such. It seems everybody runs her up the wrong way and she cannot get on with anybody.

          Also, well i find her direct contradictions funny. She would post something bad about gay people, or how she thinks most of her clients are gay, but then in the next paragraph or sometimes even sentence will say how somebody disrespected her for being trans. Call this weird, but I think if one wants respect, they should not disrespect others, it's hypocritical. this applies to any member of a so-called oppressed group (like how some black people who always call out on racism may say something sexist). If people get irate at that comment, it's just an opinion.

          As for alpha males, lol, well who is to say who here clients are? maybe some of them are top managers in firms, or they less male then? what about gay men who bottom, are they not alpha males? or straight men who get pegged?

          everybody is free, and we can believe as we wish, so i'll look forward to Barbie's next irate rant as to how somebody rubbed her up the wrong way lol..
          Orgoporno. Coming soon

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          • #50
            anyone else get a boner reading this thread??

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            • #51
              Originally posted by gaining_ View Post
              anyone else get a boner reading this thread??
              Seing her uggly face is a boner killer to me

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              • #52
                Originally posted by tiradentes View Post
                Seing her uggly face is a boner killer to me
                Wow, u r nasty.

                I met Barbie once socially (not professionally) ... she's actually seems like a pretty nice and fun person. Sorry to contradict you but I found her to be very pretty, no problem getting a boner from this end...

                I think all this stuff on the boards is just her having a bit of fun to see people's reactions lol
                Last edited by Locomotion; 09-03-2012, 08:58 AM.

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                • #53
                  edit: my post was way too long.

                  To sum it all up, books could be written on the subject because there's a lot to think about. Some men clearly have problems, others have legitimate concerns. STDs scare the hell out of me, but not enough to stop looking.
                  Last edited by alex99; 09-06-2012, 08:52 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by alex99 View Post

                    I know personally that I would prefer my encounter with a tgirl to be in a longterm committed relationship because of these things.
                    Careful what you wish for, bud.
                    Last edited by Locomotion; 09-05-2012, 03:26 AM.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Locomotion View Post
                      Careful what you wish for, bud. I just got out of a LTR with a T-girl and it was more of a big expensive headache than it was worth ... Especially when the girl turns out to be a lyer, cheater, heavy drinker, gambler as well as a complete user loser who will burn through YOUR money like water, but give nothing in return. Eye candy but underneath it all a real low life.

                      Bitter? Me? Baaah Humbug! Lol
                      You have a point there. That's definitely something to be seriously concerned about, and applies to heterosexual relationships as well.

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                      • #56
                        Found this thread and thought i really had to make a comment on it. I mean, if this was even remotely accurate then I would say that Barbie has not had the best run of meeting guys/clients.

                        I for one love a beautiful woman (tg or gg) but have no interest in men (which actually repulses me) whatsoever which means I class myself as straight. I have no interest in being a bottom which has resulted with me not calling some of the more beautiful ladies due to their reviews always leading to them doing the topping. I would hate to cause any "akwardness" if I had to be firm with my stance. As for oral sex, I love oral sex on any beautiful woman. And hey, should the vagina replace the cock then I would happily suck on that too. Those feminine breast, hips, smooth as silk legs, so really whats not to like??!!!If the special lady in question looked somewhat male (other than the obvious part) then I simply wouldn't be with them so going out in public wouldn't be an issue. I mean, seriously, wtf would not want to be seen outside with someone like Lucy or Lola. GG girls for a large part don't even come close to these beauties.

                        Both in professional and personal life I am an alpha male by a long shot, but yet I still love tgirls. I feel I have to reiterate that I am not a taker. You won't find any nerdy, geeky type sitting behind this keyboard. Im pretty secure in who I am, a straight guy who likes tgirls. Not really sure why, but it just is.

                        Cant speak for all the fake calls as I have only called once and shown up and the other time was when I took a trip to Goddhandys. So in this realm i'm pretty inexperienced having only been with 2 tgirls. Although I must say the Goodhandys experience was something else altogether. Planning to take a trip up the 401 to go visit again , only this time on a Thursday night instead of the Tuesday. But wow what a Tuesday.. Unfortunately this is where I fall into one of Barbies points by default since I did lose my phone and as such the number of the girl I met, which did suck cause I wanted to go see her again. So I did not call after spending the night lol.


                        I don't do the dress up, I prefer calling to texting, don't do cam sex, dont do cd's, dont have the bush going on if Im expecting play (I wouldn't like it so why should she), and don't play if I already have a partner. So I am thinking that I must be in the minority here which I am perfectly fine with.

                        Thinking about it, I think this may be my first post haha.

                        Anyway noticing today that certain sp's are now taking credit card, it seems that my long awaited return trip to the dark side is looming. Although I am guessing it will be simply a trip to Goodhandys and see what happens from there. My only reservation being that, what if it doesn't live up to the first time, that would be a disappointment.

                        Ok so after a long drawn out comment I best get off now, just not in the way I would like..

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by alex99 View Post
                          You have a point there. That's definitely something to be seriously concerned about, and applies to heterosexual relationships as well.
                          Yes, you are correct. I don't mean to paint all with the same brush... scammers come in all 3 sexes
                          Last edited by Locomotion; 09-05-2012, 03:27 AM.

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                          • #58
                            #22 is false in my case but nice list
                            Back after about a year, you guys and gals remember me?
                            5 months on hormones as of the 21st!

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                            • #59
                              Just came across this thread and thought a lot of the OP's points were accurate, some certainly applied to me or used to. However some are also contradictory and seem to reflect the anger and frustration she felt when writing them.
                              I have similar feelings about this issue as poster Bigdeeve above except I like to bottom sometimes. I have absolutely NO interest in str8 looking men whatsoever and it is only because of their impressive femininity that I like transgender ladies/shemales. I would love to meet an attractive TS/TG/Shemale who is seeking a long-term relationship but, with all due respect, most are in the profession as escorts and have no interest in an unpaid encounter.
                              I have met some escorts with whom I had a wonderful time, whom I liked as people and with whom I would happily have struck up a personal relationship had we met in a different setting but it's the same as with GG professionals who don't very often date clients either. However, there are far more places and ways to meet attractive GGs than TGs - especially in Calgary. SO please don't tar us all as assholes because many of the same issues apply to men seeking sex with gg escorts or meeting women for extracurricular flings outside their regular relationships.

                              I didn't cheat on my partner last, because I respected her too much for that. That was not always the case because I used to cheat on a previous partner but I learned the value of a committed relationship over just sex. Ironically she is the one who cheated on me but that was a symptom rather than a cause of a failed relationship.
                              I don't judge those who do step out and since I am single now I do like to meet TG women; unfortunately it just seems from what I read that some posters here might actually dislike us simply because we are straight looking/acting males. That's too bad but if the experience the OP has had with men has led her to this conclusion I can fully understand why she expressed it in such a way.
                              Some of us just like T-girls - or as another poster said - BBW or tall or skinny - it's just a preference and we aren't all total flakes all the time. .

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by ThisCharmingMan View Post
                                Man I really feel for T-girls with regards to this aspect of their life. It really must be soul numbingly tedious.
                                Fwiw, all those goofy fuckers that waste peoples time trying to get some cam action and have no follow-through and are not serious etc.. are also all over straight dating sites doing the same thing. There is something about the internet that brings out the most depraved and disrespectful behaviour in guys. They think they cant be tracked down. They can be, but they are so common and faceless that it is rarely worth the time.

                                Ditto for married guys and guys in relationships looking to hook up. I have never met a woman through online dating that was not inundated buy these guys.
                                And ditto for bio-female Sex Workers.

                                But here are some things to maybe think about...

                                Liking T-girls, however tedious it may be, WILL BE confusing for most guys ? at least for the first while. Unlike being Gay, (or Trans, where most have always felt female), we rarely discover our attraction when we are young. You always hear the stories about how dude knew he was Gay the first time he watched the Hulk or something. In my case, it had never even entered my mind that I would be attracted (or not attracted ? I never thought about it) until I saw a documentary on TV one night with my ex-wife about "Ladyboys" in Thai culture. (It was a good program which covered a lot of heavy stuff). My attraction was instantaneous and completely unexpected. I think I may have even commented to my wife that they were beautiful. I also knew that it wasn?t simply because they were remarkably "passable?. I liked the soft but detectable male voices, the Adam?s apple, the attributes like the shoulders or veins in the arm that looked, again, soft but discernibly male. But mostly, they came across as mysterious, beautiful women. But as you can see from my description, it wasn?t altogether clear what it was exactly that stirred me up and turned me on.


                                I know it?s depressing. I love you girls for being strong and fab and beautiful day in and day out, putting up with what you do. But there is work to do in terms of bringing both parties to a place of understanding and respect where deep trust and intimacy as well as the freedom to be a human with faults is possible. Most Straights and GLB?s I know can?t even pull this off.


                                Oh, hi btw. I'm new here. First post.
                                What a good post; well said

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