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  • ESCORTING: Making Guys Pay Their Share of the Fantasy :)

    Every once in awhile I am reminded by some guy that he views any form of "paying for sex" as a bad thing and the girls/t-girls who do as "whores" selling themselves. Of course the same guys LOVE cheap sluts - girls so desperate for male attention and love that they will spread their legs for any line a guy gives them. Of course the guy feels more masculine that he has seduced, enticed, and conquered the woman by having sex with her regardless of the lies and BS he told her to get it.

    For me escorting as a t-girl is a way of making the guy pay his "fair share" for fulfilling his "t-girl/shemale" fantasy. I went through an early stage as a part-time cross dresser before starting to escort where I did the random, anonymous, discreet sex hook up thing and of course it was just about the sex and "getting off". As I began my serious transition the costs quickly added up for wardrobe, makeup, laser hair removal, breast implants, etc. When guys told me it was their "lifelong fantasy" to be with a t-girl I would say and it's my lifelong dream to be a woman and my dream will cost me 10's of 1000's to fulfill and satisfy so them paying a few 100 was a bargain to fulfill theirs!

    Of course, I have still dated and had the odd one night stand but never a free sex hookup. To me without the courtesy of a date (ie drinks, dinner, more drinks, lol) there is only one other avenue into my panties that's the direct deposit route! No doubt t-girls who escort live a higher standard or living and can afford to progress their transition and cosmetic surgeries a lot more easily than those who don't. While it may seem contradictory it is my way of valuing who I am as a trans woman and the costs associated with my transition. I would feel bad about myself if I let every guy with a "t-girl" fantasy dupe me into putting out for free or without the courtesy of a date.
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    Soooooo, if I fill you full of liquor........

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rider014 View Post
      Soooooo, if I fill you full of liquor........
      Haha Mr Bobblehead ...well there are a few more criteria besides getting me liquored up most of which you would meet except for the being married part
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      • #4
        Worth a shot anyhoo

        Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
        Haha Mr Bobblehead ...well there are a few more criteria besides getting me liquored up most of which you would meet except for the being married part
        Well, two out of three ain't bad. Knowing my luck, a night out with dinner and drinks would probably cost more, but it sure would be fun and worth it tho

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rider014 View Post
          Well, two out of three ain't bad. Knowing my luck, a night out with dinner and drinks would probably cost more, but it sure would be fun and worth it tho
          Well seeing most escorts are charging 1500-3000 for an overnight a few hundred for dinner , drinks and a nice hotel room are still a bargain for a night of fantasy sex :-).
          *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post


            Well seeing most escorts are charging 1500-3000 for an overnight a few hundred for dinner , drinks and a nice hotel room are still a bargain for a night of fantasy sex :-).
            Funny you should mention the overnight thing. I do find it quite odd that people would pay such exuberant amounts to basically sleep. Let's be real, maybe when I was younger I could fill the better part of a night with amorous activity, but now?? I do like my sleep and really for most people, go a couple of rounds and pow! They're out for a good few hours of zzzzzzz. But yeah, a bargain, I don't like that word myself persay, but that word is another thread entirely

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rider014 View Post
              Funny you should mention the overnight thing. I do find it quite odd that people would pay such exuberant amounts to basically sleep. Let's be real, maybe when I was younger I could fill the better part of a night with amorous activity, but now?? I do like my sleep and really for most people, go a couple of rounds and pow! They're out for a good few hours of zzzzzzz. But yeah, a bargain, I don't like that word myself persay, but that word is another thread entirely
              It's called COCAINE & VIAGRA LOL. I've never done the first but those who do can usually
              go a few days with out sleep but they need Viagra to get and stay hard !
              *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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              • #8
                I guess the part of needing to get paid is left over from tgirls male personae.
                Women do most of this stuff just to be attractive to men, whereas alot of TS are making themselves attractive for profit.

                What happens when it is not a fantasy?
                Going with a TS is not a fantasy for me at all so you can't generalize that people have to pay for their fantasies.
                If I was to go to a TS escort it would be for sex with a TS.
                This is not a fantasy or at least not after my first time, which was not recently.

                Yet isn't any young man hoping for his first sexual encounter with a girl fantasizing.
                After that it is not a fantasy, really.

                To me it is you charge those you normally not sleep with for free.
                If you now don't sleep with anyone for free, well that is conscious financial decision but still shouldn't be tied to the need to get paid back.
                You made a conscious decision to enter the world of sex for pay, so you cannot be too picky in this regard.
                Saying that you deserve to get paid back for you surgeries and clothes is saying you only did these things for money.
                In fact, I think you would have probably done the transition regardless.

                So i don't really buy the idea that TS do all this stuff to get paid back by their clients.
                If you choose to transition it costs money if you want the boobs and surgeries.
                However an extensive wardrobe is just something girls do naturally.
                Now if you buy big dominatrix outfits and you are not actually into that, then it is purely a business investment.

                I guess when i hear girls say they need to escort or charge for sex to pay for their transition.
                What happened to earning money other ways?


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
                  I guess the part of needing to get paid is left over from tgirls male personae.
                  Women do most of this stuff just to be attractive to men, whereas alot of TS are making themselves attractive for profit.

                  What happens when it is not a fantasy?
                  Going with a TS is not a fantasy for me at all so you can't generalize that people have to pay for their fantasies.
                  If I was to go to a TS escort it would be for sex with a TS.
                  This is not a fantasy or at least not after my first time, which was not recently.

                  Yet isn't any young man hoping for his first sexual encounter with a girl fantasizing.
                  After that it is not a fantasy, really.

                  To me it is you charge those you normally not sleep with for free.
                  If you now don't sleep with anyone for free, well that is conscious financial decision but still shouldn't be tied to the need to get paid back.
                  You made a conscious decision to enter the world of sex for pay, so you cannot be too picky in this regard.
                  Saying that you deserve to get paid back for you surgeries and clothes is saying you only did these things for money.
                  In fact, I think you would have probably done the transition regardless.

                  So i don't really buy the idea that TS do all this stuff to get paid back by their clients.
                  If you choose to transition it costs money if you want the boobs and surgeries.
                  However an extensive wardrobe is just something girls do naturally.
                  Now if you buy big dominatrix outfits and you are not actually into that, then it is purely a business investment.

                  I guess when i hear girls say they need to escort or charge for sex to pay for their transition.
                  What happened to earning money other ways?



                  Good points and lots of transitioning trans women do not escort or do porn as they would feel they have degraded and cheapened their womanhood. It is definitely a personal choice. Most who don't struggle along slowly waiting for their approvals for gender therapy which gets them to their referral to see a specialist for HRT and from there eventual approval for SRS when and if they can afford it if they are not lucky enough to be in a province/state that funds it. A lot of women would like cosmetic surgeries, breast implants who have good paying jobs/careers but still coming up with 10's of thousands is a stretch for most after normal living expenses, childcare, etc are paid for.

                  Most transitioning women do not have good paying jobs and struggle to find good paying jobs once they transition due to discrimination and bigotry. So they just struggle to pay basic living expenses and cosmetic surgeries, SRS is out of the question.

                  Most transitioning women find themselves in a different ballpark than cis-gender women who are approached in the normal sense and while they have to dodge the players and users too they have a much higher and reasonable expectation of being taken out, dated, courted and having normal relationships with guys from high school onward. This is not the case for t-girls who struggle to have genuine guys wanting a real relationship with them and not just fetish sex.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                    Most transitioning women do not have good paying jobs and struggle to find good paying jobs once they transition due to discrimination and bigotry. So they just struggle to pay basic living expenses and cosmetic surgeries, SRS is out of the question.
                    It must be brutal for a TS or any trans person to find well paying employment. I just think of the companies I have worked for in my career and if any time a trans person was hired there would have been laughter, ridicule, scorn, etc and they probably would not have been hired.

                    we are kind of like 1970s for gay men. It will be 20 - 30 years before trans women or men are in positions of influence in the community. It will be a great day when it comes but it is still a long road.

                    And, with our current federal government, it will be a longer road. They live in the biblical BS that everything is a sin except man/woman celestial marraige

                    I can understand and support any trans person escorting in order to pay for their transition. Unless they have a family weath or sugar daddy, there is no way they will be able to pay for it from "traditional" employment in Canada.

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                    • #11
                      The problem with your scenario is once you make everything transactional you are guaranteed never to attract anyone of substance into your life. While romance may be at the bottom of your list of priorities, your "making them pay" revenge/I need money thing is bound to implode into bitterness and resentment, which reading many of your posts, already has.

                      But I guess you'll be visually attractive, so that's what matters!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by vancouverman View Post
                        It must be brutal for a TS or any trans person to find well paying employment. I just think of the companies I have worked for in my career and if any time a trans person was hired there would have been laughter, ridicule, scorn, etc and they probably would not have been hired.

                        we are kind of like 1970s for gay men. It will be 20 - 30 years before trans women or men are in positions of influence in the community. It will be a great day when it comes but it is still a long road.

                        And, with our current federal government, it will be a longer road. They live in the biblical BS that everything is a sin except man/woman celestial marraige

                        I can understand and support any trans person escorting in order to pay for their transition. Unless they have a family weath or sugar daddy, there is no way they will be able to pay for it from "traditional" employment in Canada.

                        That's all very true the best hope for any transitioning person is to be in an establish job/career in a company with a good non-discrimination policy with the terms sexual orientation and gender identity in that policy. This makes it more difficult for bigoted managers/supervisors to get rid of you. Though they may still try by making your life miserable in various ways hoping you will quit.
                        Even if they apply at a company that has such a policy and come across a sympathetic human resources manager after that "positive" interview and he/she discusses you with others the decision is likely to be "Yeah we understand the transgender thing but most of the employees don't so why create a hassle for ourselves." And they just never get the call to say "Congrats, your hired!"
                        Also most trans women do look fairly rough around the edges when they first go to full time in their gender ,so the employer has to deal with the reactions of both the staff and the general public and don't they already have enough headaches to deal with!
                        *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Crossover1 View Post
                          The problem with your scenario is once you make everything transactional you are guaranteed never to attract anyone of substance into your life. While romance may be at the bottom of your list of priorities, your "making them pay" revenge/I need money thing is bound to implode into bitterness and resentment, which reading many of your posts, already has.

                          But I guess you'll be visually attractive, so that's what matters!
                          You know nothing about me and just because I disagree with your views on most things doesn't make me bitter.

                          And I don't make everyone pay if a guy wants to date me out of real interest then I expect what other women expect REAL dates , which means drinks, dinners, movies, etc. I don't date guys who want to sneak over under the cover of darkness wearing their ball cap and sunglasses and sweating that they might "get caught". Also when I date someone it is out of mutual attraction not just because he is willing to take me out for a drink.

                          I've been in several dating relationships since I started transitioning from several weeks to 10 months the current one has just passed the four month mark.
                          *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                            You know nothing about me and just because I disagree with your views on most things doesn't make me bitter.

                            And I don't make everyone pay if a guy wants to date me out of real interest then I expect what other women expect REAL dates , which means drinks, dinners, movies, etc. I don't date guys who want to sneak over under the cover of darkness wearing their ball cap and sunglasses and sweating that they might "get caught". Also when I date someone it is out of mutual attraction not just because he is willing to take me out for a drink.

                            I've been in several dating relationships since I started transitioning from several weeks to 10 months the current one has just passed the four month mark.
                            Your problem is very simple, if someone disagrees with you, they will be faggots, cross-dressers, etc. You don't seem to get that you frame your questions in a sick distorted way.

                            What you are asking for here is plain ridiculous. You need money for transitioning, then escort. Alot of girls both genetic and t-girls escort to support their financial needs. Nothing new and the gents understand and comprehend that when they are dating a beautiful girl it is a mutually beneficial arrangement.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by xoxJanexox View Post
                              Your problem is very simple, if someone disagrees with you, they will be faggots, cross-dressers, etc. You don't seem to get that you frame your questions in a sick distorted way.

                              What you are asking for here is plain ridiculous. You need money for transitioning, then escort. Alot of girls both genetic and t-girls escort to support their financial needs. Nothing new and the gents understand and comprehend that when they are dating a beautiful girl it is a mutually beneficial arrangement.
                              You must just sit around and fume all day long on being called out. It's ok dear you can call yourself whatever you like. I've never called anyone a "faggot" as that is a derogatory term for a gay man.

                              I called myself a cross- dresser when I was at that stage and at least I was honest with myself and others what stage I was at. I've yet to hear any honesty coming out of your mouth? If someone is engaged in bisexual activity or homosexual activity I'm not going to call it straight no matter how hard you or others try to twist and distort the definitions. And then take offense that I won't join you in your denial.
                              *F*A*N*T*A*SA*

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