New studies suggest no difference if you have the Vaxx or not for spreading

[marinav2]

These mandates are just a gift for the drug companies who own governments and politicians around the world. The crazy thing is majority of the population believe what their news is telling them about covid. They wont tell you that it is a disease of the obese, elderly and people with comorbidities . Also kids have almost a zero chance of dying from covid. Statics show more kids died from flu than covid. Plus people giving the shots should be aspirating but for some reason only Denmark is doing it. How do you trust news when they are paid by pharma companies. Check this video out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlL5_kKyLA0

[Marcel195857]

We all knew that even with the vaxx you can spread and catch covid....only differance is your reaction may not be as bad if your vexed.....not 100% as even the best vaccines are only about 95% effective.

[marinav2]

We all knew that even with the vaxx you can spread and catch covid....only differance is your reaction may not be as bad if your vexed.....not 100% as even the best vaccines are only about 95% effective.

So why is there vaccine passports then? also new studies show that the vax after the 2nd shot wanes at 2-3 months. For example in Israel if it has been 6 months since your last shot you are classified as unvaxxed and cant get in places with there passport.

[justvisiting2016]

So why is there vaccine passports then? also new studies show that the vax after the 2nd shot wanes at 2-3 months. For example in Israel if it has been 6 months since your last shot you are classified as unvaxxed and cant get in places with there passport.

Vaccine passports are there instead of the lockdowns we had. Instead of closing indoor spaces, we close the indoor spaces for unvaccinated only. Why? Because the hospital system can handle the numbers of vaccinated that may end up there, it can not handle the number of unvaccinated if they are given full access. Unfortuantely, that is what this is about. I know its fun to find the 56th conspiracy to explain this all away, but sometimes, it is what it is.

Its about percentages, not absolution. Vaccines are drastically reducing spread, and the numbers who end up taking ICU beds. It was never intended to STOP EVERYTHING unless you got to 100% which is never gonna happen because conspiracies are more fun.

We dont stop getting cancer treatment because often it fails and the person still dies, do we? Nope. We use it because it lowers the number that die. Pretty simple concept.

If we applied the anti vaccine person's ideas and comments to all medicine, we would all be dying because anything and everything would be stopped because "if its not 100% it doesnt work!! hahah".

Dont take it, its cool. I have an unvaccinated girl I am dating and we just do things at my place, order take out, etc, . Its all good.

Vaccines also decay and lose effectiveness. They had always operated that way and when you get certain ones you should get them again (like hepatitis ones).

what can we say? If you think this is all a conspiracy, have at it!

big pharma has you already because you will take their pain pills if you need surgery, take their cancer meds, and take whatever it is you need when something comes up

government has you all tracked already, they didnt need this.. they can get your cell phone pings from towers, bank records, browsing histories( VPN companies keep them by the way), etc. If they want to know what you are doing , they got you already

[justvisiting2016]

PS - the forum is brutal, errors when posting, etc....... the owners will lose a lot of their projected revenues because less and less people will come here.

[marinav2]

Vaccine passports are there instead of the lockdowns we had. Instead of closing indoor spaces, we close the indoor spaces for unvaccinated only. Why? Because the hospital system can handle the numbers of vaccinated that may end up there, it can not handle the number of unvaccinated if they are given full access. Unfortuantely, that is what this is about. I know its fun to find the 56th conspiracy to explain this all away, but sometimes, it is what it is.

Its about percentages, not absolution. Vaccines are drastically reducing spread, and the numbers who end up taking ICU beds. It was never intended to STOP EVERYTHING unless you got to 100% which is never gonna happen because conspiracies are more fun.

We dont stop getting cancer treatment because often it fails and the person still dies, do we? Nope. We use it because it lowers the number that die. Pretty simple concept.

If we applied the anti vaccine person's ideas and comments to all medicine, we would all be dying because anything and everything would be stopped because "if its not 100% it doesnt work!! hahah".

Dont take it, its cool. I have an unvaccinated girl I am dating and we just do things at my place, order take out, etc, . Its all good.

Vaccines also decay and lose effectiveness. They had always operated that way and when you get certain ones you should get them again (like hepatitis ones).

what can we say? If you think this is all a conspiracy, have at it!

big pharma has you already because you will take their pain pills if you need surgery, take their cancer meds, and take whatever it is you need when something comes up

government has you all tracked already, they didnt need this.. they can get your cell phone pings from towers, bank records, browsing histories( VPN companies keep them by the way), etc. If they want to know what you are doing , they got you already

Sorry but you are getting all your information from main stream newspapers and tv. Please do some research on other countries that have the highest vaxxed numbers and states in the US as well. If we got to 100% that would do nothing to stop the spread. This virus is endemic now and a lot of other countries have accepted this fact(Nordic countries, Singapore) but Canada and US have not. Look up Florida cases for example where they have no mandates and low vax rate and the highest amount of seniors. The difference is they are treating people that get covid with monoclonal antibodies with amazing success. The mainstream news is not telling you and I that the hospitals are full of vaxxed and unvaxxed seniors, obese and people with comorbidities. Every day new celebs and athletes who are fully vaxxed are testing positive, these groups make up .0000000 % of the population which tells me a lot of non famous fully vaxxed are testing positive, so you add in this and how the media BS is scaring people into thinking that if it wasn't for these damn unvaxxed people then we could live like we were in 2019 again which is 100% not true if you look into facts. It is NOT like 2019 in places where you need the passport to get in which is obvious they have little confidence in the vaccines.

I would rate these covid vaccines a D grade because they wane at 2-3 months and may be useless at 6 months and they do not stop the spread or prevent one from catching it. I have read up on various scientists and doctors who are not allowed to go on main stream news who all say this strategy of vaxxing everyone is insane including kids who have a almost a 0% chance of dying from it. They all say that the best plan is to only vaxx the high risk people, have cheap reliable rapid tests available everywhere and have treatments for anyone that gets the virus.

I just find it funny when someone who just goes with the main stream narrative (just visiting2016) and doesn't have the curiosity to look into any facts on this shit. You may be surprised.

[justvisiting2016]

Sorry, but the "do your research, its all the media" crowd pick and chose things to suit their confirmation bias and have repeatedly fell for actual hoaxes and junk science.

If you think this is a grand conspiracy, go for it. I won't change your mind and all you folks keep thinking you are the secret keepers of "the truth" while you keep being led down the garden path.

Ill enjoy my vax pass and having a fantastic time every day and am back travelling! Life is great for a conspiracy!

Cheers

[marinav2]

Sorry, but the "do your research, its all the media" crowd pick and chose things to suit their confirmation bias and have repeatedly fell for actual hoaxes and junk science.

If you think this is a grand conspiracy, go for it. I won't change your mind and all you folks keep thinking you are the secret keepers of "the truth" while you keep being led down the garden path.

Ill enjoy my vax pass and having a fantastic time every day and am back travelling! Life is great for a conspiracy!

Cheers

You can't debate on the issues so all you have is to say I think covid is a grand conspiracy which I never said once in any post. This is very typical types of responses for the people that only get their talking points and info from main stream or corporate news.

[craig1aa]

OMG …why are we still talking about this . Get the vaccine, don’t get the vaccine. Nobody cares . Neither side is going to budge . Where I work , people are giving up jobs that put them in the top 1 % of earners in the country because of their alternative beliefs and failure to get vaccinated . Funny way to make a stand .

[FalconHeavy]

OMG …why are we still talking about this . Get the vaccine, don’t get the vaccine. Nobody cares . Neither side is going to budge . Where I work , people are giving up jobs that put them in the top 1 % of earners in the country because of their alternative beliefs and failure to get vaccinated . Funny way to make a stand .

The reason they can’t let it go? Hmmm….