Rantsalot, a dude in a wheelchair, a young lady and man and a security guard.

[Rantsalot]

This might not have the hot action some people are looking for or colorful descriptions of the play by play. I mean if I want too I could embellish things but I'd prefer to keep it real.

Yes. This is one hundred per cent real. It happened just the other day and let me say this.....

THERE IS NO SEX IN THIS STORY. If that's what you're looking for read something else.

It is just one of those experiences that anyone here or elsewhere could possibly encounter. It may be boring to some, some may not care, some may actually care a lot. All I ask is read and come to your own conclusions.

Ok. So here we go.

I finished work the other day and needed to get some cash. Considering the banks were closed I had to go to an ABM. Seeing that my bank was the closest location to my workplace with 3 ABM's I naturally went there. As I arrive in the bank I notice there's a line up. Nothing unusual about that. In fact it was rather common at the time of the evening. It was I'd say 6:30 pm or so. The line was moving along fine. There was this young girl who was in front of me who was going to take the next available machine. We had just some idle chit chat, you know, "These banks should stay open later." " It's getting colder in the night." Just normal stuff.

Now I should say that the ABMs were in an enclosed area where you would have to swipe a card to get access to them in the after hours but because of the amount of people those at the end just held the doors open.

So I'm still making idle chit chat with the girl and notice one of the machines was available. I tell the young lady. "Hey hey. It's your turn." She dives into her purse to get whatever it was and as she's doing so I hear this noise coming from the doorway

This dude in a wheelchair rides himself through the open doors. I looked at him and he wasn't happy to begin with and was muttering and swearing. He looked 50ish. Anyways, he literally races to the open ABM
and just as he does that the young lady in front of me closes her purse and heads in the same direction.

They both meet. This is how it went:

Young lady: "Excuse me. I was next. Could you please wait you're turn."
Dude in wheelchair: (very pissed off and without warning) "Look you F***ING B**** !!! Can't you see I'm handicapped and in a F***ING wheelchair!!. (then he points a finger at her) You F***ING accommodate ME!

Theres a few seconds of silence and the young lady is in shock and literally shrugs like this smiley .

Dude in wheelchair: I'm in a wheelcahiar so get your ass out of here.
Young lady: I'm.....(she then gets quiet and almost breaks into tears)

Oh yeah I had enough and I yelled out "HEY!!!!!!!!!!" and I was so wanting to step into this to help out but some guy was apparently even angrier than I was and I heard him say " Buddy! Get your ass back to the end.

It then went like this

Dude in wheelchair: Why don't you shut the f### up?
Some guy: Why don't you apologize to the lady?
Dude in wheelchair: Why don't you come here and say that to my face?
Some guy: (without hesitation walks to the dude in the wheelchair and screams) Why don't you apologize to the lady?

For about a minute or 2 there is a shouting match.....swearing and cursing and I say a few things and so do other people that were there who witnessed this. The young lady just stood by the crowd but tried to stay as far away from the dude in the wheelchair. Well, as I said, there were a few minutes of constant shouting and a security guard who was patrolling inside the bank hears all this and opens the bank doors and just blurts out.

Security guard: "Calm down clam down! What's going on here?"

The crowd gets silent. Immediately the dude in the wheelchair rolls up to the guard and explains how HE was next in line and that the young lady cut in front of HIM and all this crap. The young lady, finally, after all of this stepped up to the guard and said it wasn't true.

Security guard: So you were next in line or was HE next?
Young lady: I was
Dude in wheelchair. Liar!! I was
Young lady: I asked nicely if you could wait your turn.
Security guard: At this point I'll ask both of you to leave unless I know the truth.

As soon as the guard said that I and the other dude and almost everyone else that was there said that the young lady was first. Yeah ,wheelchair dude wasn't happy to hear the majority side with the girl and called all of us mofo's and anti handicapped and all that.

Here's the cruncher. Even after hearing all this the guard said "Ok everyone just go back to your place in line and let the man do his thing at the ABM." Well, wheelchair dude went to the ABM but the guard stood right by him eyeing him like a hawk as was I and everyone else. He then rolled out of the place. I swear a few people flipped him the bird too.

Ok. So it's not an exciting story but I got too thinking...a person in a wheelchair .. yes....many people feel sorry for them but they shouldn't have first chance at things like in this incident. I mean, he looked normal, had a decent chair but boy was he pissy.

A friend of mine I told this too said if he were there he'd have just grabbed the guys chair and roll him back to the end.


That's it.

Your thoughts.

[Hockeyfan]

Your stories >>>>>> Barbie's

[Wiseone26]

Rants, crazy people. Actually I've seen stuff like this happen also, not as bad as that. Honestly maybe if dude went to the end of the line maybe someone that was considerate maybe would have let him take their place. However, If it isn't a life threatening situation should be treated normally like everyone else.

I honestly think people in scooters and wheelchairs try to take advantage of people. And oh yes! people with scooters should get a freaking license to operate them, pedestrian have the right of way, they are on a motor vehicle. Numerous times I've been almost hit by a dam scooter and they look at me like it's my fault.

crap it's leading into a rant...l8r...

[Rantsalot]

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Your stories >>>>>> Barbie's

I am not wanting too turn this into a competition or a comparison. This is the one and possibly the only story type thread I'm going too post. It's just that I wanted to share it here as I've told this to many people offline as well and the reaction was pretty much the same.

Screw the dude in the wheelchair...

[sensual_lover20]

The guy in the wheelchair was clearly out of line (pun intended).

[Wiseone26]

The guy in the wheelchair was clearly out of line (pun intended).

DOH!

[Rantsalot]

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I should say how I'm surprised nobody threw a punch. The man in the wheelchair and the other guy arguing with him were extremely irate and I'll bet that if the one guy wasn't in the condition that he was punches would've been thrown.

You'll just have to take my word on this as it was a crazy scene.

[wgcd2]

lol, reminds me of the episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm about a handicap bathroom stall from a couple seasons back.

Stories like this piss me off but society allows people to believe they deserve over the top accommodation. For example, the way EVERYWHERE has to be wheelchair accessible now. I definitely understand it in many cases, there are lots of places that everyone should be able to access. But there are other places where it does not matter and it is terribly impractical and costly to the owner. They have to satisfy the needs of a very small minority at great expense. I am very tall and have encountered countless cars I cannot drive and numerous rides I cannot go on. Do I think there needs to be change? No! Because that shit really doesn't matter and there are alternatives.

Another example is people will go out of their way to do things for handicap people that they can do on their own, like open a door. Shit, what do these people think they do when no one is around?

[superquad1968]

As a guy in a wheelchair (see the handle) I hope that everyone understands that idiot does not represent the vast, vast majority of people with disabilities (PWD). He was clearly in the wrong. Being in a wheelchair does not give him the right to be an arrogant jerk.

But wgcd, who determines what is practical and what is not? Moreover, how do you know what can become practical with a little thought and ingenuity? The church where my parents were married back in England is over a 1000 years old. They've made that building completely accessible. Not because they had to but because it is the right thing to do.

I, and many other people with disabilities, make it a practice that if a business is not accessible I won't shop there. I once needed a suit for work. I went to a place in Hamilton that had 2 steps to get in the store that weren't needed. I told the owner that he just lost over $1000 in business for the sake of building a $200 (average cost of modifications - definitely not a "great expense"). Guess what? I got a call from that owner saying that he put in the ramp. That's what's going to make people change. Over 12% of the population have disabilities with a significant amount of disposable income to spend. If a business owner wants to ignore that market, it ain't a very wise decision.

You're tall. Boo hoo. Can you get a job easier than a PWD? Yep. Do you face discrimination almost daily because you're tall? No. In your world, PWD would still be locked up in an institution somewhere so that we don't inconvenience the rest of you "normals". We have EVERY right to participate and live the same life you do.

[maddplotter]

Rude is rude. Whether that person is in a wheelchair, blind, or any other disability. I am constantly surprised by some of the rude people I come across in Toronto.

[wgcd2]

But wgcd, who determines what is practical and what is not? Moreover, how do you know what can become practical with a little thought and ingenuity? The church where my parents were married back in England is over a 1000 years old. They've made that building completely accessible. Not because they had to but because it is the right thing to do.

I, and many other people with disabilities, make it a practice that if a business is not accessible I won't shop there. I once needed a suit for work. I went to a place in Hamilton that had 2 steps to get in the store that weren't needed. I told the owner that he just lost over $1000 in business for the sake of building a $200 (average cost of modifications - definitely not a "great expense"). Guess what? I got a call from that owner saying that he put in the ramp. That's what's going to make people change. Over 12% of the population have disabilities with a significant amount of disposable income to spend. If a business owner wants to ignore that market, it ain't a very wise decision.

You're tall. Boo hoo. Can you get a job easier than a PWD? Yep. Do you face discrimination almost daily because you're tall? No. In your world, PWD would still be locked up in an institution somewhere so that we don't inconvenience the rest of you "normals". We have EVERY right to participate and live the same life you do.

You take offense too easily and completely missed my point.

EDIT: I love being tall. I was saying there's a few unnecessary things I cannot do because of my height, which do not matter. I can drive a truck or SUV comfortably, and who fucking cares if I can not go on some rides, there are others. My point was I face minor inconveniences that I can easily solve and there is no need for me to complain.

I never said most places should not accommodate the disabled. However, it should be an option for a mom and pop store who (occasionally) have to pay out of their ass to satisfy a small number of people. If they think they'll lose too much business then they can do something about it. The disabled should not be kicking up a fuss about these situations since alternatives are easily available. Anything they can get at one of those places they can simply find somewhere else 5 minutes away. Yet, a FEW handicap people are unreasonable and make it their life goal to fuck around small businesses instead of going to the next place.

Making the comparison to a church is fucking absurd and something completely different. Besides the fact they have lots of money, their whole purpose is to promote god and bring in everyone. Additionally, to host weddings (or almost anything) it is essential that everyone who wants to attend has reasonable access. A church of any age that is actually used should be wheelchair accessible.

I was talking about the minority of places not a church, supermarket, mall, etc.

[superquad1968]

Generally, I don't take offense easily and I do prefer to object with my pocketbook. I'm not one of those few. I'm just trying to illustrate a point that all discrimination is wrong.

No, "we shouldn't kick up a fuss". We should be happy that you give us what you give us. We're so thankful that you allow us too exist in your exalted world. <- Sarcasm

No, you missed my point with the church so here it is as clear as I can put it without making a comparison. The average cost to make a place of business wheelchair accessible is $200. That's too much for even a "mom and pop" store? By the way, there are programs offered by the government to help pay for the costs of accommodation. They are not left to their own to pay for it.

Would it be OK if a small number of stores said it is too much of an inconvenience to serve blacks or women or t-girls? Nope it's the same. It's all discrimination.

[Rose]

Douchebags come in all walks of life, colours, levels of capability, financial levels, etc. Can't escape that, no matter what society you decide to live in.(Maybe the only escape is to leave society)

As a Humanist, I do believe however that every public business should be accessible to every person who wishes to use it. No matter what may hinder that process; or what the owner of the place may see as an undesirable person to come in. We're all human, and we're all the same.

[sensual_lover20]

Generally, I don't take offense easily and I do prefer to object with my pocketbook. I'm not one of those few. I'm just trying to illustrate a point that all discrimination is wrong.

No, "we shouldn't kick up a fuss". We should be happy that you give us what you give us. We're so thankful that you allow us too exist in your exalted world. <- Sarcasm

No, you missed my point with the church so here it is as clear as I can put it without making a comparison. The average cost to make a place of business wheelchair accessible is $200. That's too much for even a "mom and pop" store? By the way, there are programs offered by the government to help pay for the costs of accommodation. They are not left to their own to pay for it.

Would it be OK if a small number of stores said it is too much of an inconvenience to serve blacks or women or t-girls? Nope it's the same. It's all discrimination.

I agree with you and you are very sensible.