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    Why are there more transgender people in certain countries?


    This is a question which has cropped up for anyone interested in transgender issues. Countries like Thailand seem to have a much higher percentage of transsexuals compared to places like the USA and UK. The question is one which has been discussed by many but it doesn’t have a clear answer.


    One theory on why there are more TS in certain countries is because of tolerance. For example in Thailand it is more acceptable to be transsexual. However tolerance doesn’t seem to explain it, surely in the west we would at least suspect some people that we know to secretly be TS, but this almost never happens. Therefore the tolerance argument is probably not the reason, people are more tolerant because it is more common.


    The next theory is religion. Thailand is Buddhist and it is believed by some that being transgender is a sort of half way point in reincarnation. When a woman dies, she then becomes a katoey (Thai term for the third sex) in her next life, before she can then be reincarnated as a man. Others in Thailand believe that when a man cheats on his wife, he is reincarnated as a katoey in the next life because of his bad karma. Buddhism is a religion which rewards those that practice ‘good karma’ by reincarnating them as something good, and punishes those that generate bad karma by making them into a being or animal with a worse existence. Being a transgender is considered to be a hardship, it is easy for TS to find many sexual partners but difficult to find a lifetime partner.
    However the religion argument also doesn’t seem to work. Brazil has a large Catholic base and many transgenders. Christianity certainly does not have much respect for transsexuals or even homosexuals. Countries which do not have a strong religious element such as the UK have a very low trans population.

    The most complex but likely answer to why there are more transsexuals in certain countries is DNA. This is an enormous argument which often relies on speculation because there just isn’t enough data to analyze. However there seems to be some possibility that DNA patterns could be the answer. There seems to be a higher amount of transgender people in Asian countries. From India all the way to Samoa there are countries with a high percentage. Certain countries have less like China, however this could be because of the stricter laws. In the west there are many closet cross dressers, but China may have many closeted transsexuals.

    The next argument is that some races have different bone structures which means transsexuals can pass easier. In the west transgender women have a harder time passing because they are more noticeable. This is a difficult argument to accept because it is normal for TS to transition at a late stage in life in the US and Europe. Minds are opening up and it is becoming normal for younger people to transition, which may help this argument in the future. For now it is a none starter as the world of changing gender is most popular in the west for cross dressers who are usually men that enjoy dressing up part time.


    Social ridicule is a reason not to be yourself. Anyone that has watched a few TV comedy shows will of seen men dressed as women for a joke. However countries like Thailand also have a rich comic culture mocking ‘men in wigs’. Trans women are mocked globally because people simply do not understand it. Therefore ridicule has no baring on why certain counties have more TS than others. It is certainly easier to be yourself in certain countries, but this is more likely a case of what is common becomes normal.

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    Canada

    In regards to Canada this is where the floor is open for all the Canadians to say something in defense of the nation.

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    • #3
      Thailand vs the World

      Originally posted by Rantsalot View Post
      In regards to Canada this is where the floor is open for all the Canadians to say something in defense of the nation.
      In Thailand Ladyboys are accepted and referred to in religion.

      However Gays in Thailand are complete outcasts.

      So while Canada may not have this same support, there is huge support for Gays instead.
      Subsequently the TS in Canada are grouped in with gays and, as such, have the same rights.

      In thailand Kathoey don't have specifically better rights but they are not discriminated against the way the are in Canada.

      In Canada there is laws protecting GLBT groups, in Thailand not.

      Anyway in Thailand the main reasons there are more Transsexuals than elsewhere:
      1. Every male in Thailand must serve in the Military when they turn 18, one of the few exceptions is being a true Kathoey. So you will find some make the transition to get out of the Army.
      2. Often it is easier to get a job as a woman because women in Thailand are far more respected for their work ethic than men are. Unlike many countries female children are often desired over males.
      3. With the high number of Tourists and red light areas in Thailand, there is many opportunities to meet foreign men for relationhships and dates. As a boy there isn't the mainstream opportunities as there is for women and ladyboys.
      4. Transsexualism is supported by Buddhism as you have said.
      5. Being gay is considered wrong and evil in Thailand so being a ladyboy is a much more comfortable existence for many gays.
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      • #4
        Culture is biology and society

        Wow, to get out of the Army? Did some one actually say that to you Crag? I hope the male had transgender identification already because that, no matter where you are in the world, is a big life change just to get out of mandatory service. They aren't at war with anyone!

        Good analysis Rants. Many of the diverse components that manifest themselves in a culture and then contribute to a person's identity formation are mentioned and accurately explained. There are, however, many more. I don't know them off hand, no one does, the list is infinite, and we can only get close by trying to categorize like you did. We can still recognize them when we spend the time thinking about all the ways people grow and change from inception all the way to maturity. Its just a matter, but no easy thing, of thinking about how people discover and affirm their sexuality and then considering the diverse forms of sexuality that exist throughout humanity.

        For example (you can read this paragraph or not, my point is below). A girl grows up in a nuclear family, all the children are the biological offspring of the parents. On occasion the parents display sexual attraction. The girl has an older brother that brings home a girlfriend and she sees them having oral sex. She starts to like a boy in her life. Her friends think he's sexually attractive. They run the bases, eventually having sex. As the sexual world is opened up to the girl, through her own experience and by gaining access as she grows older, she recognizes other things that excite her. The girl likes other girls breasts. She wants to play with them and kiss them. It turns her on to see cleavage and squeeze tits. But she has no interest in another vagina. Ultimately, she is satisfied by a man, his penis, his sexual behaviour and that makes here happy, but she never lets go of her excitement by a great pair of tits.

        There are 11 sentences in that example all citing factors that either are an influence or an affirmation of the girl's sexual identity. AND I DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THOSE BIG FACTORS LIKE SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, BIOLOGY, RELIGION, SOCIETAL STRUCTURE.

        Like c'mon! Since we were talking about Thailand and Brazil, you'd have to consider the climate as a factor. People are strolling about in light weight revealing clothing a lot more often. The majority of there populations live by beaches and seas! Simply, sexuality is way more exposed
        But, as Crag made clear. It is possible to narrow down some key factors that provide a reason for a higher PUBLIC population.

        Last point I swear. Read some cool things about the travestis of Brazil from a research book. The understanding is they are gay men (happy with their penis) who are attracted to straight men (strong male penis) and want to be their woman (fucked good by straight man).
        Is that a cock in your panties, or am I about to get slapped in the face?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by discovigilante View Post
          Wow, to get out of the Army? Did some one actually say that to you Crag? I hope the male had transgender identification already because that, no matter where you are in the world, is a big life change just to get out of mandatory service. They aren't at war with anyone!
          ...
          There are 11 sentences in that example all citing factors that either are an influence or an affirmation of the girl's sexual identity. AND I DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THOSE BIG FACTORS LIKE SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, BIOLOGY, RELIGION, SOCIETAL STRUCTURE.

          Like c'mon! Since we were talking about Thailand and Brazil, you'd have to consider the climate as a factor. People are strolling about in light weight revealing clothing a lot more often. The majority of there populations live by beaches and seas! Simply, sexuality is way more exposed
          But, as Crag made clear. It is possible to narrow down some key factors that provide a reason for a higher PUBLIC population.

          Last point I swear. Read some cool things about the travestis of Brazil from a research book. The understanding is they are gay men (happy with their penis) who are attracted to straight men (strong male penis) and want to be their woman (fucked good by straight man).
          It is a fact that some males in Thailand become ladyboys to avoid mandatory military service.
          Some are already on their way to being kathoey but others mainly do it for that reason.
          However ladyboys of all types get out of service, they do not want the horny soldiers out in the field alone with ladyboys.
          It is not possible to change your ID in Thailand, you remain a male no matter what you look or act like, even after they have pussies.
          The army will interview them and they appear to be valid, they will get out of service. They have to show they have invested into becoming a woman, so tits are very beneficial.

          However in Thailand becoming a ladyboy is not such a big life change as here.
          Sometimes it even gives them freedom to leave home and live on their own, still they are required to support the family back home. As a man their earning power is generally lower than a girl or kathoey, especially in the sex trade.
          Often poor families bring their boys up as girls in hope they will become a ladyboy for financial gain.

          So i think most of the factors you cite and more can be found in Thailand.

          Definitely I think the warm whether will produce more ladyboys for sure.

          In Brazil Machismo is number one, so femmy or gay men are not accepted as in North America.
          This, like Thailand, can lead many gay men to become Boneca.

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          • #6
            just got back from Malaysia and Singapore too and there's tons there as well.

            in Kuala Lumpur and Penang there's quite a few in the bars.

            in Singapore, they have an entire mall that turns into a whorehouse at night and theres an entire place on the top floor devoted to ladyboys.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cowboy905 View Post
              just got back from Malaysia and Singapore too and there's tons there as well.

              in Kuala Lumpur and Penang there's quite a few in the bars.

              in Singapore, they have an entire mall that turns into a whorehouse at night and theres an entire place on the top floor devoted to ladyboys.
              Does it look like this?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
                Does it look like this?

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                that's the place

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                • #9
                  One cannot compare Thailand to Malaysia and Singapore. I was amazed the first time I went to NEP. So many beautiful ladyboys that I cannot believe my eyes that they were not females.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dav662 View Post
                    One cannot compare Thailand to Malaysia and Singapore. I was amazed the first time I went to NEP. So many beautiful ladyboys that I cannot believe my eyes that they were not females.
                    Most of the Ladyboys working in Singapore are from Thailand.
                    Because the economy is better there they can usually make more money.
                    Because of the ASEAN, they can travel there without a visa.
                    Probably the same in Malaysia.

                    There is far more Ladyboys on Walking Street in Pattaya
                    than at Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP) in Bangkok.

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                    • #11
                      I was in thailand twice and it's really almost unbelievable how many LBs are in Phuket. Bangla road is just packed with them. A lot of them you can't even tell at all from male or female. Many of them will have sex with you for free. It's awesome

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                      • #12
                        Actually I bet the Filipinnes has loads of hot Ladyboys as well. There sure is a lot of them in Toronto

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                        • #13
                          i prefer pattaya myself , soi6 / soi6/1 walking st but i'm bi so i love the whole damn city 18 days till i'm there again

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                          • #14
                            There are more ladyboys walking in Pattaya for sure but it is better to take someone from a club as they are fairly strict with the rules and if something happens they normally tries to make sure that they rectify it. If you pick someone from the street then this does not work the same way.
                            I go to Thailand about once in three months.

                            The Philippines do have a lot of ladyboys too but the scene is not half as organised as in Thailand.

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                              Hi girls

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