Saskatoon to License Adult Service Providers

[WastedYouth]

Story is about a week or so old but the city of Saskatoon is in the process of bringing in a new bylaw that would require all adult service providers to have a license, I assume it will be similar to those already in place in Edmonton and Calgary. Sunshine has a good post on working in Alberta http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?170852-Working-in-Alberta&highlight=license .

I'm not sure but I would assume those providers traveling to Saskatoon would need a license as well.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/S...652/story.html

[Rockheart]

Story is about a week or so old but the city of Saskatoon is in the process of bringing in a new bylaw that would require all adult service providers to have a license, I assume it will be similar to those already in place in Edmonton and Calgary. Sunshine has a good post on working in Alberta http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?170852-Working-in-Alberta&highlight=license .

I'm not sure but I would assume those providers traveling to Saskatoon would need a license as well.

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/S...652/story.html

Adult service providers are required to have a license everywhere in Canada.

A business license.
Not sure why they have to spell it out.

They can simply come over ask if you are operating a business.
if you are you are operating a business without a license.

Pretty simple.

Actually you cannot advertise in newspapers in Saskatchewan as and escort without a business license.

[Shyla Wild]

I just found an interesting Loop Hole in the Law

I was recently going over Montreal city By-Laws and I found a bit of a loophole. It seems most cities have solicitation permits that are allocated to street vendors. Does anyone know if one of these permits could be used towards prostitution, therefore trumping the solicitation laws against Prostitution?This is the section that I found, and of course my source:

PRB 03-30E
Prostitution in Canada: International Obligations, Federal Law, and Provincial and Municipal Jurisdiction


In the early 1980s, a number of Canadian cities passed by-laws regulating use of the streets, in a move that worked to effectively forbid street solicitation. Montr?al and Calgary were prime examples of this trend. In 1980 and 1981 they enacted by-laws that essentially forbade the use of streets and other public areas to those engaging in prostitution, under penalty of substantial fines.(84) These by-laws were passed under the municipalities? power to regulate the use of streets and to restrict activity that encourages criminality.
In reaction to these new laws, two court challenges reached the Supreme Court of Canada. In R. v. Westendorp, the defendant was charged under the Criminal Codewith communicating for the purposes of prostitution, and under Calgary?s by-law with being on the street. This by-law had been enacted with the purpose of preventing violence and gatherings on the street. The Supreme Court struck down the by-law as a municipal attempt to enact criminal sanctions ? and thus as an infringement of federal jurisdiction. Similar reasoning followed in Goldwax et al v. Montr?al (City),(85) when the Supreme Court struck down the Montr?al by-law. The impact of these two rulings effectively nullified similar by-laws enacted or proposed in Vancouver, Niagara Falls, Regina, and Halifax.(86)
However, although these two seminal cases have established a general principle ensuring that municipalities do not intrude on federal jurisdiction through by-laws on street use that effectively prohibit street prostitution, a number of municipalities have continued to enact similar by-laws that directly and indirectly affect street solicitation. In 1983, Montr?al enacted a by-law to forbid selling services on city streets without a permit. As the city did not issue permits for soliciting, prostitution was essentially forbidden. This by-law has been upheld by the Quebec Superior Court. In 2000, Winnipeg enacted a by-law outlawing ?obstructive solicitation,? thus prohibiting anyone from impeding pedestrian traffic in the course of solicitation, from harassing a pedestrian in the course of solicitation, or from soliciting in groups of three or more people. In 2002, Surrey, BC, enacted a by-law giving police officers the power to issue tickets to anyone engaging in prostitution, whether client or prostitute, within 300 metres of a school or 20 metres of a residence. This by-law also makes it illegal for clients in motor vehicles or prostitutes to solicit on public roads.(87) Finally, police in most municipalities commonly use anti-jaywalking and loitering laws to hand out tickets in areas frequented by prostitutes.(88)

[toban]

Adult service providers are required to have a license everywhere in Canada. . . . . .

Locally, I know that Agencies must have a license but the individual girls do not. Could it simply be a provincial or municipal thing? I am referring only to local GG escorts with whom I am very familiar.

There is not a TG escort within hundreds of miles of me. If there was, I wouldn't have spent so many hours and $$$ with Air Canada!

[sunshine]

About Saskatoon license

When I was in Saskatoon, I enquired about putting an ad in the newspaper and I was informed that I needed a business license, just as Craig mentions here. I asked a few more questions and I was told that, to get a license, I had to go apply in person at city hall. This would make it impossible for traveling girls to get a license since it would likely take many weeks to actually get approved.

Whether Saskatoon actually enacts a bylaw specifically to license escorts or whether they rely on the regular business license, the process would be the same - apply in person, jump through the hoops as required by their process, wait, and once approved, abide by the rules of the bylaw if any, or the rules of the regular business license.

The reason a municipality would enact a bylaw is usually to get a greater degree of control over the area. They want girls to follow certain rules in order to reduce crime, maintain order, prevent criminal elements from profting, etc. Enacting an escort bylaw spells out specific rules for escorts that are not stipulated in the regular business license bylaw.

Perhaps this push for an escort bylaw is caused by recent criminal activity in the Prairie provinces. Just recently, I heard a story about three guys who raped an SP in Saskatoon and then ripped her off. There have also been murders recently. This sort of thing is a political call to action.

Since I don't live in Saskatoon, I didn't pursue the matter any further.

PS - I doubt that a municipal permit for street vending would trump a federal law that prohibits solicitation in a public place. Federal law would trump local bylaws in this case. At least that is my understanding. That's why municipal bylaws do not seek to license prostitution, only escorting. They have no jurisdiction over prostitution since this is a federal matter.

Sunshine

[Shyla Wild]

PS - I doubt that a municipal permit for street vending would trump a federal law that prohibits solicitation in a public place. Federal law would trump local bylaws in this case. At least that is my understanding. That's why municipal bylaws do not seek to license prostitution, only escorting. They have no jurisdiction over prostitution since this is a federal matter.

Sunshine

I would have thought the samething....but the Laws are suspended in Ontario due to the court ruling. It is still illegal in Quebec, so the province government must have some say...no?

[Rockheart]

Locally, I know that Agencies must have a license but the individual girls do not. Could it simply be a provincial or municipal thing? I am referring only to local GG escorts with whom I am very familiar.

There is not a TG escort within hundreds of miles of me. If there was, I wouldn't have spent so many hours and $$$ with Air Canada!

Any municipality can charge you for operating a business without a business license.

Individual girls do need a license always, anywhere in Canada.

A business license to operate a business in that province, plus a city business license in most cases.

Provinces and municipalities are now specify adult performers and escorts in their acts.

[Rockheart]

I would have thought the samething....but the Laws are suspended in Ontario due to the court ruling. It is still illegal in Quebec, so the province government must have some say...no?

You are all confusing criminal law with business law.

Criminal law makes Prostitution illegal.
The Federal Government normally defines general criminal law.

The Provincial Government normally defines specific jurisdictional criminal law.
The province will also Manage Business operations in the province by licensing businesses in general.
This involves the registration of the name but they really don't care much about your actual operations.

Municipalities require you first have a provincial business license and then most require a City Business license on top.
That is what this escort license is, just a new classification of a city business license.
Still escorts should have been licensed other another category technically.

The Municipal (city) governments generally set business laws for their jurisdiction.
Soliciting anything without a license is a business law violation in almost any Municipality.
Soliciting sex is a criminal offense.
So even if soliciting sex was legal, it would still be illegal if you didn't have a license.

However municipalities can define types of businesses they will allow.
So with Criminal law in mind, they license various different kinds of business various ways.
However if you run a business you must fit into one of the categories or they won't give you a license.

This is how cities can pick an choose what they want.
Even if selling sex is legal, the city can refuse to license sexual services if they want.
The police may not bust you for prostitution but they can get you for conducting business without a license.
And since you cannot get a license for prostitution in that city, then it is illegal, no matter what the feds say.
The prostitution itself is legal, just not the business transaction.

Sooooo this means you can only have sex for free in that city.

[WastedYouth]

By the sounds of it the current business license for "massage" or whatever would be replaced when it expires with a license stating that you're an adult service provider.