I think a SP has blackballed me

[Cal_guy]

I had a bit of a battle going on with a girl in Calgary and I think she's spreading rumours about me to the other girls. I think I might be on some kind of "bad date" list. I've sent a half a dozen texts to some girls in Calgary and have received no response. I can't think of why and now I'm wondering if this is her own type of self justice. I've never met this girl. All I did was once text her and enquire about her availability. After that she would send me unsolicited texts asking if I wanted to come see her. Even after I politely asked her to stop. I'm not going to give the name of the girl and I'd ask that you not speculate as I don't want to deal with her craziness again. Does anyone have any ideas as to how I resolve this situation? I just find it strange that all texts I've sent since have all gone unanswered. I can only come to the conclusion that she's provided my cell # to all the girls and now they're ignoring me. I'm the innocent party here and she's a very immature girl who doesn't understand how this business works, especially client/SP privacy.

[tsKITANA]

I had a bit of a battle going on with a girl in Calgary and I think she's spreading rumours about me to the other girls. I think I might be on some kind of "bad date" list. I've sent a half a dozen texts to some girls in Calgary and have received no response. I can't think of why and now I'm wondering if this is her own type of self justice. I've never met this girl. All I did was once text her and enquire about her availability. After that she would send me unsolicited texts asking if I wanted to come see her. Even after I politely asked her to stop. I'm not going to give the name of the girl and I'd ask that you not speculate as I don't want to deal with her craziness again. Does anyone have any ideas as to how I resolve this situation? I just find it strange that all texts I've sent since have all gone unanswered. I can only come to the conclusion that she's provided my cell # to all the girls and now they're ignoring me. I'm the innocent party here and she's a very immature girl who doesn't understand how this business works, especially client/SP privacy.

why dont you just call the girls.. since most of us ignore texts like some of us post in our ads.
I reply to texts to only names that are my regulars & "clients seen before".
So unless a girl is serious in the business.. and sticks to her rules... i dont think she will txt if her ad says so
We take texting as a non serious approach...especially if we asked for a phone call for more inquiries for info that was left out in the ads... ie..availability, rates, booking etc etc etc. Thats my IMO about not getting a text back.

BUT unless.. your blacklisted.... then....sorry to hear. && GOOD LUCK!............................................. .................BUT.......calling is easier
toodles !

[Cal_guy]

Kitana....I appreciate your comments and will take your recommendations. I personally prefer texting at first and then following up with a phone call, when it's time to make the appointment. I'm kind of shy so I think that's why I prefer texting at first. But I also understand your point of view about texters not being serious and just wasting your time. Thanks for your input...I know this can be a touchy subject.

[tsKITANA]

Kitana....I appreciate your comments and will take your recommendations. I personally prefer texting at first and then following up with a phone call, when it's time to make the appointment. I'm kind of shy so I think that's why I prefer texting at first. But I also understand your point of view about texters not being serious and just wasting your time. Thanks for your input...I know this can be a touchy subject.

NO PROBLEMO!
But this issue has been on the table since time. Text is never allowed with us (well to some of us at least) unless we trust you (regulars and clients seen before).
But then again, some girls can work through text... but theres a bit of a gamble they have to play with.
You said its your preference (not going to change that for you) but it seems its not working at your end at the moment.
And a good client of mine told me, and always stuck through "being shy will never get the things you want in this life".
GOOD LUCK && HOPEFULLY YOURE NOT BARRED ! xoxoxoxox have a fabulous day ! ciao bello

[xoxJanexox]

Kitana....I appreciate your comments and will take your recommendations. I personally prefer texting at first and then following up with a phone call, when it's time to make the appointment. I'm kind of shy so I think that's why I prefer texting at first. But I also understand your point of view about texters not being serious and just wasting your time. Thanks for your input...I know this can be a touchy subject.

Just a minor comment, this is definitely not the right approach. Text or call (depending on the provider's preference) only when it is the time to make the appointment.

I resort to texting only and I wont engage in texting unless for the purpose of booking a session especially as I have all the necessary information listed in my website!

I doubt that what you are experiencing is related to your encounter with that girl and I think as Kitana said it might be related to the fact that the providers you have contacted don't accept texts. If this is the case, then you either follow their preferred method or simple don't waste your time! A major turn off, in general, for any provider is a client who doesn't follow instructions, especially when made explicit!

[Cal_guy]

I understand preferences but the three girls that I texted didn't say explicitly that they wont accept texts. Otherwise, yes I wouldn't have texted them. I can be appreciative of their preferences. But going forward I will make my initial contact by phone and see if it works

[Rockheart]

If the ad says don't text then don't do it.
You should follow the rules hey have on their ads not to piss them off.
There is no hard and fast rules.

If a girl tries to Black list you there is not such thing.
Some good friends may share this type of information but generally most of the tgirls don't trust each other.

As far as whether providers should or should not take texts emails etc.

To me, if you are in business you should entertain inquiries from anyone and everyone is just good business.
To say texters are time wasters is bullshit.
If in your experience texters and emailers may be time wasters to you, that is you and your experience.

Texters, emailers and phoners are all legitmate customers.
Time wasting is not a crime and escorts only cry about wasted time when the person does not book a session.
Stores or businesses do not call people who do not buy anything time wasters, they call them future prospects.

A good business has the obligation to entertain all polite inquiries period, that is business.
If people call and ask questions but don't buy anything, that is doing business, they may come back in future.

Plus by ignoring all texters you could be missing out on the best client of your life.
Just because someone thinks all texters are time wasters doesn't mean it is true.

If i cannot call you a couple times and ask questions without being labelled a time waster,
you will never get my business.

To me you are just throwing money down the drain by ignoring or labeling any customer.

[sunshine]

Do it right

Do you really think the girls have a list we share? We don't.

You've been a member of this forum since April 2008. By now, you should know how things work.

Let the girl know you are a member of the forum. Call, don't text. This isn't the Ontario free-for-all, this is Alberta.

Don't call or send texts until you want to see the girl. Otherwise, you will fall under that category we call players. If the other girls are like me, they will have very little patience for that.

If you're too shy to make a phone call, what are you going to do when you meet the girl? It's a ridiculous excuse.

I don't know why your texts aren't answered but you'll get a response if you call on the phone. The girl wants to hear your voice and make sure you are serious and not a cop. Texts don't work for the girl and that's why. If you are a regular, most girls will accept a text from you, not before.

There is also the issue of the escort bylaw. Cops or inspectors can easily send out a text and fish for a girl's address or lure her to a hotel room. When the meeting happens, the girl receives a fine of $5000 or more.

You are putting this on the girl, saying she is immature. Girls aren't usually like that. They want clients and will behave accordingly. More likely, you did something to piss her off. If you piss a girl off, anything can happen so don't do that.

It's pretty simple.

Also, you'll get a better response to a written message if you PM on the forum. That's considered a serious communication by most girls.

Sunshine

[Cal_guy]

Sunshine...thank you for the feedback. But I do take umbrage in your statement about we should not call a girl unless we're ready to make an appointment. I believe that we should be able to inquire about services or anything else that isn't included in the ad or her website. We're spending good money for the service and we should have the right to ensure that our expectations meet with the girls offering. Also, you've been in this business long enough to know that a girl should never send unsolicited texts to guys about coming to meet her. Especially, if the texts are being sent at 2:30 am. But I think I've learned something today and appreciate the feedback from everyone. While I prefer texts, I can appreciate the wishes of some girls to communicate via the phone vs text. But honestly, what would it hurt to reply to the text and say "thank you for your text but I would appreciate it, if you called me to discuss your question" That's what I would have done and they wouldn't be alienating a possible future client.

[Shyla Wild]

When it comes to method of communication, there is no right or wrong way. Call, Blocked Call, Private Numbed, Text, Email, smoke signal, tin-can with strings attached, basically any can be used. If the girl accepts them, now that is another story. Some girls swear by email, others claim it's a waste of time. Same for text or any other way to communicate. The way YOU "THE CLIENT" represent yourself on an email or text often impacts the response. Many of us tend to have a radar for Bullshit; Texter's that text for days and never book, guys calling trying to get phone sex, 5 word emails "I want to fuck you"...standard high class time wasters. Unfortunately, without trying, a serious client at times...well, doesn't come off as serious...hence why some girls prefer calls as it's easier to judge tone and get STRAIGHT to the point.

As for a phone list, none of us share any kind of list....too many issues regarding discretion, privacy, stealing clients, etc. The closest thing to sharing some of us do is the last 4 digits. At times when I am with a friend and we receive calls that are strange, we compare the last four digits to see if they match.

[sniperki]

If the ad says don't text then don't do it.
You should follow the rules hey have on their ads not to piss them off.
There is no hard and fast rules.

If a girl tries to Black list you there is not such thing.
Some good friends may share this type of information but generally most of the tgirls don't trust each other.

As far as whether providers should or should not take texts emails etc.

To me, if you are in business you should entertain inquiries from anyone and everyone is just good business.
To say texters are time wasters is bullshit.
If in your experience texters and emailers may be time wasters to you, that is you and your experience.

Texters, emailers and phoners are all legitmate customers.
Time wasting is not a crime and escorts only cry about wasted time when the person does not book a session.
Stores or businesses do not call people who do not buy anything time wasters, they call them future prospects.

A good business has the obligation to entertain all polite inquiries period, that is business.
If people call and ask questions but don't buy anything, that is doing business, they may come back in future.

Plus by ignoring all texters you could be missing out on the best client of your life.
Just because someone thinks all texters are time wasters doesn't mean it is true.

If i cannot call you a couple times and ask questions without being labelled a time waster,
you will never get my business.

To me you are just throwing money down the drain by ignoring or labeling any customer.

Great post dude

[Ana_Jolie]

Sunshine...thank you for the feedback. But I do take umbrage in your statement about we should not call a girl unless we're ready to make an appointment. I believe that we should be able to inquire about services or anything else that isn't included in the ad or her website. We're spending good money for the service and we should have the right to ensure that our expectations meet with the girls offering. Also, you've been in this business long enough to know that a girl should never send unsolicited texts to guys about coming to meet her. Especially, if the texts are being sent at 2:30 am. But I think I've learned something today and appreciate the feedback from everyone. While I prefer texts, I can appreciate the wishes of some girls to communicate via the phone vs text. But honestly, what would it hurt to reply to the text and say "thank you for your text but I would appreciate it, if you called me to discuss your question" That's what I would have done and they wouldn't be alienating a possible future client.

I think youre taking what Sunshine said the wrong way. I believe what she means is guys who just constantly call and never book appointments. Yes you are spending youre hard earned money on a service but the girl has to work to make her money as well. I think the lines are blurred most of the times with some of the guys. I think some guys have the mentality that girls should feel lucky that they are even paying the girl for requested donation. As well you may be respectful of a girls wishes but think of how many guys that arent. So really in the long run most girls dont even see it worth their time to engage the text msgs to express how they wish to be contacted.

[xoxJanexox]

Sunshine...thank you for the feedback. But I do take umbrage in your statement about we should not call a girl unless we're ready to make an appointment. I believe that we should be able to inquire about services or anything else that isn't included in the ad or her website. We're spending good money for the service and we should have the right to ensure that our expectations meet with the girls offering. Also, you've been in this business long enough to know that a girl should never send unsolicited texts to guys about coming to meet her. Especially, if the texts are being sent at 2:30 am. But I think I've learned something today and appreciate the feedback from everyone. While I prefer texts, I can appreciate the wishes of some girls to communicate via the phone vs text. But honestly, what would it hurt to reply to the text and say "thank you for your text but I would appreciate it, if you called me to discuss your question" That's what I would have done and they wouldn't be alienating a possible future client.

Yes, when you have the money in your pocket and ready to book a session, you have the right to ask questions about the service provided for which the provider online info are not clear, but that doesn't mean to engage in a financially unrewarding dialogue several days or weeks before the session, especially if the provider has all the necessary information clearly posted online.

When a provider is not clear about her services then I can see where you are coming from and sympathize with the gents!

Yes, this is a business, but sort of underground one. We don't open our in-call locations for clients to come in and take a look and have a test drive! Speaking about myself, my marketing strategy is unfortunately falling behind such expectations! BTW, this happened to me once when a client asked if he could come to take a peek!

Not every texter a time waster and not every caller is a serious client. It all depends on circumstances of each case! I think the courtesy of at least a reply is warranted!

[sunshine]

You brought up the question

Sunshine...thank you for the feedback. But I do take umbrage in your statement about we should not call a girl unless we're ready to make an appointment. I believe that we should be able to inquire about services or anything else that isn't included in the ad or her website. We're spending good money for the service and we should have the right to ensure that our expectations meet with the girls offering. Also, you've been in this business long enough to know that a girl should never send unsolicited texts to guys about coming to meet her. Especially, if the texts are being sent at 2:30 am. But I think I've learned something today and appreciate the feedback from everyone. While I prefer texts, I can appreciate the wishes of some girls to communicate via the phone vs text. But honestly, what would it hurt to reply to the text and say "thank you for your text but I would appreciate it, if you called me to discuss your question" That's what I would have done and they wouldn't be alienating a possible future client.

This is your thread. You have a question about your text messages going unanswered. You've gotten some great answers from several girls. Yet you don't want to understand.

My ads always say NO TEXTS, NO E-MAILS. My website says the same thing in several places. Yet I receive tons of e-mails and text messages. You may say you prefer to text but maybe you should understand you aren't the only person contacting this girl. She has to contend with many contacts, most of which are not serious potential clients. When you text, unless you make the right impression, and assuming the girl even reads your text, you can expect to be ignored by most girls. Your text doesn't give the girl what she needs, an impression of you, confidence you are a real client, confidence you aren't out to make trouble for her.

Honestly, texts and e-mails rarely come from serious clients. Maybe 1 or 10% eventually lead to an appointment. I usually answer but my answer is: Call me on the phone." The times I don't answer are when the text or e-mail is just a bunch of explicit comments or questions or when the guy sends along a picture of his cock. Serious clients don't behave this way. Serious clients want to know if you're available, how much the rate is, and how can they meet you. That's it. Everything else is usually indicative of a player wasting my time.

You have specific questions and the answer isn't on her website or in the ad? Fine. Call and ask the question. Don't text if you really want an answer.

Sunshine

[Shyla Wild]

This is your thread. You have a question about your text messages going unanswered. You've gotten some great answers from several girls. Yet you don't want to understand.

My ads always say NO TEXTS, NO E-MAILS. My website says the same thing in several places. Yet I receive tons of e-mails and text messages. You may say you prefer to text but maybe you should understand you aren't the only person contacting this girl. She has to contend with many contacts, most of which are not serious potential clients. When you text, unless you make the right impression, and assuming the girl even reads your text, you can expect to be ignored by most girls. Your text doesn't give the girl what she needs, an impression of you, confidence you are a real client, confidence you aren't out to make trouble for her.

Honestly, texts and e-mails rarely come from serious clients. Maybe 1 or 10% eventually lead to an appointment. I usually answer but my answer is: Call me on the phone." The times I don't answer are when the text or e-mail is just a bunch of explicit comments or questions or when the guy sends along a picture of his cock. Serious clients don't behave this way. Serious clients want to know if you're available, how much the rate is, and how can they meet you. That's it. Everything else is usually indicative of a player wasting my time.

You have specific questions and the answer isn't on her website or in the ad? Fine. Call and ask the question. Don't text if you really want an answer.

Sunshine

Totally agree. Not only that, but it takes much more time to handle emails or texts. I don't think guys(clients) understand the bullshit that happens on text. Like you said, a bunch or barely readable messages followed by a pic. Like the pic is going to change the price or my mind about a session. It's always when you travel also. Like these guys never try this shit in my hometown. It's always on the road when expenses are 3-4 times higher per day. Like I said before, you can chose any method you want to contact a provider. Once again, it's our choice if we chose to respond. Most girls have enough volume from these methods that they do not have to use methods they are not comfortable with.

GUYS.....You want to see why girls don't answer texts. Here are two screen shots from my phone when my patience had gone. and notice how they all get flagged.