Escort past, never goes away

[dan_calgary]

Interesting article

I do remember her advertisements on SMC

Never met her, heard good things about her,

Looks like she tried to move on, but that escort past will always come back to haunt you,

Nice to see that she stuck with her, despite the publicity

just my two cents,

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/melanie-j...date-1.1503517

CTV Montreal
Published Friday, October 18, 2013 5:36PM EDT
Last Updated Monday, October 21, 2013 8:17AM EDT
In the Plateau-Mont Royal De Lorimier riding, Coderre's team is running a lawyer, Bergeron?s team is running a school commissioner, Marcel Cote is running a real estate agent and Melanie Joly is running a transgender individual, who worked as an escort until last year.
Bibiane Bovet?s avowed past as a worker in the sex trade created a stir Friday, as a scrum of reporters queried mayoral candidate Joly about her unconventional candidate.
Joly said that she has known of Bovet?s background since they met earlier this year. She said that Bovet has no criminal record and that her profession is not illegal in any criminal sense.
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Bibibiane Bovet, who is running for Melanie Joly's team in the De Lorimier riding of the Plateau Mont Royal borough, is a transsexual and former escort. (Image: vraichangementmtl.org)



Joly said that the only two conditions she made upon her candidate were that Bovet assure her she has left the sex trade and that she will no longer provide any similar services, including therapeutic massage.
Bovet has not worked as an escort since early in 2012, according to Joly.
?For me it would have been easier to drop my candidate and say, ?Yes I made a mistake,? but in truth she has my entire support and the support of the entire team and Bibiane Bovet will represent her citizens well in the Plateau,? said Joly.
Joly, who is also a lawyer, said that she knows enough about the law to realize that Bovet has crossed no legal lines.
Several reporters asked whether Bovet had paid income tax on the money she made in the skin trade but Joly did not reply directly.
When asked whether Bovet would be dropped if it were discovered that she had failed to pay income tax in her earnings in the skin trade, Joly replied: ?One has to respect the law but she has my entire support. She is not one of the people who filled her pockets at city hall.?
Bovet advertised her services under the name Jena Roberts and reportedly used the earnings to pay for a costly sex reassignment surgery. She describes herself as a "cultural psychoanalyst" on a professional online profile.
The De Lorimier riding had been previously held by Josee Duplessis of Projet Montreal who recently quit politics to raise her son.
Among the candidates competing with Bovet for the seat are Suzanne Craig of the Coalition Montreal, Louise Mainville of the Projet Montreal and Carmelle Marchesssault of the Equipe Denis Coderre.
Frontrunner Denis Coderre said he had no issue with such a candidate when asked about it Friday.
"Every leader has their own way of picking their candidates. At the end of the day we?ll let the people judge. I?m not going to prejudge or label any other candidate because this is not the kind of politics people want," he said.



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[DR-Z]

[QUOTE
Frontrunner Denis Coderre said he had no issue with such a candidate when asked about it Friday.
"Every leader has their own way of picking their candidates. At the end of the day we?ll let the people judge. I?m not going to prejudge or label any other candidate because this is not the kind of politics people want," he said.
[/QUOTE]

Kind of refreshing and classy response for a politician.

I hope she wins.

[Guest]

no, she's out!

I met her once at Astteq in Montreal a few years ago. She was very nice and very classy.

Bibianne WAS running but Joly was forced to oust her. I heard an interview on the radio with Bibianne yesterday.

Too bad. It would have been a first positive step for TS integrating into politics in Canada.

Babe,

[Rockheart]

Yes This person had an ad on Shemale Canada for like 8 years.
For at least the last 6 years at least she was advertising with the name Bibiane Bovet.
She was active on Tgirlforums promoting herself, also through her blog and has done some porn as well.
I cannot say how long her adult career went on before that.

Any for all of this time she asked me to help promote her and promote her.
Now she wants me to help me de-promote her.
I don't think that should be my responsibility, it is not possible to scrub the internet.

There is reference to dozens of threads on tgirlforums that have her name in them that exist in google.
Some of them do not even exist on the forum anymore but they can stick in Google and other search engines for years (or forever)
Websites are cached and there is web sites that saved Shemale canada every day, and you could search it.

So she messages me on facebook of all places with a google search result of tgirlforum references.
She said it is ruining here life and I need to fix it.

To me if she is not willing to do most of the work, I am not going to go try and scrub google for her.
If she was to come to the forum and point out the actual stuff, I would be willing to help.

Do you think it is fair to put the guilt on me what she has done for so long?
I tell her to report the posts through the forum as per normal, but she just sends me stuff on facebook.

You can say all you want that you escorted to pay for your transitions, but the fact is it is going to come back to bite you if you want to enter the public eye. In this day and age transgenders can do other things to pay for transition, it just may take longer.
Escorting is the fast track to quick cash true, but it is also very frowned upon as a choice by the mainstream.
Even doing porn now is fairly acceptable in comparison to escorting.

I am not sayng I am not willing to help someone but I should not be responsible for the entire internet or doing all the leg work.
You need to untangle the web you wove and give me the short list.
Or should I be responsible for everyone's internet reputation problems into the future?

This is not the first case of an escort from shemale Canada running for office.
Trisha Fox from Vancouver ran for Mayor there a number of years ago.
Her ad on Shemale Canada became quite the issue, but in the end it wasn't that big of a deal.
She never ever stopped advertising and still has an ad up.

[TSFantasia]

Canadians Will Never Accept Prostitutes As Political Candidates

I met her once at Astteq in Montreal a few years ago. She was very nice and very classy.

Bibianne WAS running but Joly was forced to oust her. I heard an interview on the radio with Bibianne yesterday.

Too bad. It would have been a first positive step for TS integrating into politics in Canada.

Babe,

Unfortunately for Bibianne and any other current/former sex worker if you are considering a public career that will subject you and your past to media and public scutiny save yourself the embarrassment and public humiliation ..ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! This isn't about Bibianne being TS its about her being a former (just..2012 was last year lol) sex worker. To the general, voting public "sex worker, street walker, escort, courtesan, masseuse" = prostitute, prostitution.. as legal as it is to practice it will always have the public stigma attached to it (as pissed off wives/gfs will never let their men think its ok to go see one ).
This is why I disagree with girls plastering their ads with "mugshot" style pics on the internet that will follow them FOREVER go back to the obscure, digititized face, Iphone flash face blocked pics that show the "goods" without revealing undeniably your identity. You can still send a face pic to the serious enquirers if thats the only thing holding up an appt. Also though unavoidable in alot of locations Escort licenses are used by municipalities as a tax grab, harrasment ploy that still doesn't give the escort freedom to operate (Residential locations, hotels, etc) subjects them to invasive audits by Revenue agencies and most likely for Bibianne had her legal name, etc publicly accessible to any reporter/person who asked to see it.
BTW you will find this with any reputable law firm, medical profession, national & international companies that are concerned about public image perception of their firm, profession, and company so if your working towards something beyond escorting in your future..THINK AHEAD

[xoxJanexox]

Am I getting this wrong?

So was she running for the elections by the same name she was running by as a sex worker?

The news cite her with the same name as the one Crag said she used for the last 6 years in shemale Canada.

As a side note: I don't think that you (Crag) can do anything more than deleting her previous posts which won't even solve the problem completely.

[Guest]

Obama has a TS on his staff.

Hi,

Obama has (or had) a TS on his staff. I forget her name but she was quite the soldier before she transitioned. I think it's a defense office she holds- i forget.
I doubt she was an escort, though.

Back to Bibianne. When i saw her profile on shemalecanada, i could never understand why she used her real name. I guess she never saw herself competing for office. But still, you don't use your real name in this business.

It's true about what tsfantasia says about showing the face, though. It seems t-girls are expected to show their faces while GG escorts always hide theirs. I suppose we have to prove ourselves to be as feminine as possible even before a guy contacts us. Most people would expect a t-girl to be "manly" if her pics didn't show her face.
And that doesn't mean that just because a t-girl shows her face that she a beauty, either.
Besides, what's in a face, really, for i've seen some homely GGs who look more like their dads than their moms.

I think it would have been great if they all just overlooked Bibi's past and allow her to turn over a new leaf.
As for taxes if any were unpaid, they could have just docked a certain amount of her salary as MP and call it
even-steven.
She's wasn't a pedophile or murderer or anything like that.
So she was an escort and a masseuse - big frigging deal!
What would that mean, in office? She'd give head to pass bills, or whatever?
Pffft! The real crooks are already in office in most cases, i think.
They've probably hired escorts before, themselves, and no one knows about it.
Does their secrecy make them any better. Human are humans, eh? We all like sex.

Another unfortunate strike for TS's every where.
In her in-studio radio interview on www.Cjad.com, with Tommy Schnurmacher, she sounded very presentable as a candidate.

Oh well.
Babe,

[Raging Bob]

Very few people can fully shake the stigmas associated with working in the sex trade, whether a man, woman or transgender. Sucks but it's very true.

[vinnie]

Watch this tv interview

Watch this, you will understand why she been kicked out of M?lanie Joly's team.

http://tvanouvelles.ca/video/%C2%ABj.../2758425743001

[Rockheart]

Watch this, you will understand why she been kicked out of M?lanie Joly's team.

http://tvanouvelles.ca/video/%C2%ABj.../2758425743001

In the end her history of sex work had almost nothing to do with the real reason the party let her go.

[falkon]

In the end her history of sex work had almost nothing to do with the real reason the party let her go.

1) It actually had nothing to do with it. The AMF investigation in her shaddy business deals and her letters to Obama on how to fix the economic crisis sealed the deal.
2) This municipal political party she was running for... At first, they weren't taken seriously, most thought Joly and her team wouldn't stand a chance. And even if the team stood a chance, that particular district will be a fight between the current socialist district mayor (Montreal has a dozen or so district mayors each with limited power similar to a mayor, but only in their respective districts - kinda complicated, as is everything with Montreal) and a candidate for the current opposition party. So, to begin with, her chances were between nil and non-existant to be elected for this function.
3) Her story as an escort surfaced when Joly's polls numbers increased to the point she was a threat to the other favourite candidates. But even then, no way in hell the actual anti-car, anti-advertising, anti-business commie isn't getting re-elected in this part of the city.

[Rockheart]

1) It actually had nothing to do with it. The AMF investigation in her shaddy business deals and her letters to Obama on how to fix the economic crisis sealed the deal.
2) This municipal political party she was running for... At first, they weren't taken seriously, most thought Joly and her team wouldn't stand a chance. And even if the team stood a chance, that particular district will be a fight between the current socialist district mayor (Montreal has a dozen or so district mayors each with limited power similar to a mayor, but only in their respective districts - kinda complicated, as is everything with Montreal) and a candidate for the current opposition party. So, to begin with, her chances were between nil and non-existant to be elected for this function.
3) Her story as an escort surfaced when Joly's polls numbers increased to the point she was a threat to the other favourite candidates. But even then, no way in hell the actual anti-car, anti-advertising, anti-business commie isn't getting re-elected in this part of the city.

It did actually have some to do with escorting, just not the act itself.

I thought "Commie's" went out in the 90's.
Nothing ever gets outdated in Montreal.

[overhere]

It did actually have some to do with escorting, just not the act itself.

I thought "Commie's" went out in the 90's.
Nothing ever gets outdated in Montreal.

Quebec Solidarity has two members in the provincial legislature and they are both from montreal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qu%C3%A9bec_solidaire

Qu?bec solidaire also includes a number of collectives, made up of members in good standing who may, in compliance with requirements, promote their respective political views within Qu?bec solidaire. Unlike the UFP, these groups do not have formal representation in Congress, the National Council or other bodies of the party.^[18] Current collectives include:

• Alternative Socialiste, the Quebec section of the Committee for a Workers' International.^[19]
• D?croissance conviviale, a collective which promotes degrowth.
• Gauche Socialiste, the Quebec section of the reunified Fourth International.^[20]
• La?cit?, a collective which promotes the separation of church and state.
• Mass critique, an anti-capitalist collective.
• The Parti Communiste du Qu?bec (PCQ), a communist collective.
  
• The Parti Communiste du Qu?bec - Parti Communiste du Canada (PCQ-PCC), the Quebec membership of the Communist Party of Canada.
• Socialisme Internationale, the Quebec membership of the International Socialists.^[21]
• Tendance Marxiste Internationale, the Quebec section of the International Marxist Tendency.^[

Some areas of Montreal seem to have more than their fair share of Commies. I guess some people never got the memo.

[Shyla Wild]

I really don't understand why people are so upset about this. If you look at the situation, politicians get in trouble and cause scandals for sleeping with hookers....can you see the problem with being one? Conservatives are anti-prositution, no doubt this would cause problems.

When I was a child, my father told me something interesting. When something bad happens, if you want to figure out who is behind it, find out "Who profits the most." The answer is Ms. Joly.

Politicians are backstabbing, "do what's best for me" people. If you look at the entire situation, Bibiane was used. Ms. Joly and her party were unknowns until this scandal. Now she's first in the poles after. I am the only one that sees that Ms. Joly used Bibiane to propel herself and her party into the limelight. You can argue shady businesses, escort past, etc. but I am sure this was foreseen as a possible problem and a response was well calculated before the media torn into her. Politics is chess, and this is politics at it's best. Well played.

Once you remove that smokescreen, it's easier to see a clear picture.

[Rockheart]

I really don't understand why people are so upset about this. If you look at the situation, politicians get in trouble and cause scandals for sleeping with hookers....can you see the problem with being one? Conservatives are anti-prositution, no doubt this would cause problems.

When I was a child, my father told me something interesting. When something bad happens, if you want to figure out who is behind it, find out "Who profits the most." The answer is Ms. Joly.

Politicians are backstabbing, "do what's best for me" people. If you look at the entire situation, Bibiane was used. Ms. Joly and her party were unknowns until this scandal. Now she's first in the poles after. I am the only one that sees that Ms. Joly used Bibiane to propel herself and her party into the limelight. You can argue shady businesses, escort past, etc. but I am sure this was foreseen as a possible problem and a response was well calculated before the media torn into her. Politics is chess, and this is politics at it's best. Well played.

Once you remove that smokescreen, it's easier to see a clear picture.

Part of the moral here, however, is don't use your legal name for escorting.