Reinforcing the dangers of "pump parties" / raw silicone injections

[candyhilton]

Last night on E! was an episode of Botched featuring a tgirl namedRajee Narinesing, who in 2003 started getting her face and boobs done from a woman that was in her LGBT community that was doing 'pump parties' of injecting raw silicone into anyone and everyones face. Mostly trans.

She said it looked good for a year, and then everything went to hell.

What I found amazing about her was even though her looks are shot, she's so happy to be alive and vibrant and does PSA speaking events about the dangers of this... and if she can reach out to one person to avoid this, then that means alot to her. thats amazing.

Anyways on the show, the 2 doctors's would not operate on her and from what I understand the only place u can have the silicone removed (from my understanding) is in Mexico.

As far as it relating to my own experiences,

I asked a tgirl friend are Toronto girls still getting this done and she said ya a woman from the US comes twice a year and shoots tgirls up in a hotel room.

And I met a tgirl at Goodhandies once (very nice girl btw) who told me implants were too expensive for her so she had her boobs entirely built up by getting them done at a pump party. I dont know what happened to her...

The show also reminded me of Mandy Goodhandy who had her own issues with her raw silicone lips awhile ago (which I hope she has addressed them in Mexico?)

[JerryW]

Marilyn Reid was just sentenced to 8 years for that,She was from Newmarket and did work on girls who use this site.Google her, many articles. Down the road it will affect many who have had no problems to date.

[vancouverman]

These injections are just horrible, and are serious exploitation of girls genuine desires to reshape their appearances. They need to throw the book at anyone caught doing this. The community needs to get the word out the dangers of this shit.

[Alexis]

I did that once..

These injections are just horrible, and are serious exploitation of girls genuine desires to reshape their appearances. They need to throw the book at anyone caught doing this. The community needs to get the word out the dangers of this shit.

The last time I did that I got shit on by several silicone girls.. got called all kinds of names.. lol..

Liquid silicone injections are illegal.. they are poison.. it will cause complications eventually..

I could never imagine doing something like that for fish lips..

[candyhilton]

Alexis you should be commended for being a 'whistle blower' on the raw silicone topic. And if girls are attacking you for bringing to light such an important topic... then they are truly fucked in the head.

The last time I did that I got shit on by several silicone girls.. got called all kinds of names.. lol..

Liquid silicone injections are illegal.. they are poison.. it will cause complications eventually..

I could never imagine doing something like that for fish lips..

[TSFantasia]

There are definitely safer and medically approved products and procedures for body feminization that are available. Risking several years off your life is not a good exchange for saving a few $$$s and has to be really sad for these girls, who no matter how womanly a figure they achieve are only sought out by guys for the size of their cocks and preferrably using them in the most masculine activity possible in topping hairy guys asses. What a let down These guys wouldn't care if they were butt ugly hairy cross-dressers with bad makeup and a five o'clock shadow and calling them Suzie or Precious or Tiffany,etc just helps them to validate in their own minds that they are really having sex with a woman even though that is clearly a male cock going into their male asses. Nevermind that the majority of she-male enthusiasts are the same guys running around every guy on guy sex hook up site to suck guys cocks in dirty restrooms, truck stops, and park bushes. Seeing a she-male is just the chocolate sundae dessert after plowing through their greasy hamburger and fries main course.

Even though I'm not escorting anymore my time doing that as well as dealing with the many tranny-chasers in my personal dating life tells me this is true 90% of the time. To those who are in the 10% of seeing and treating trans women as women in all aspects my apologies if any of this offended you. Being post-op I have had numerous conversations with guys trying to convince me of their sincere interest in me as a woman on various social media only to have them almost immediately stop talking to me after they found out I was no longer in possession of their most coveted obsession COCK. I have been lucky enough to date some in that 10% category never was asked to top one of them they spent more time kissing my lips and sucking my tits than worrying about sucking cock so I am grateful for men like that.

[candyhilton]

Thats very refreshing Fantasia. I agree with everything!

There are definitely safer and medically approved products and procedures for body feminization that are available. Risking several years off your life is not a good exchange for saving a few $$$s and has to be really sad for these girls, who no matter how womanly a figure they achieve are only sought out by guys for the size of their cocks and preferrably using them in the most masculine activity possible in topping hairy guys asses. What a let down These guys wouldn't care if they were butt ugly hairy cross-dressers with bad makeup and a five o'clock shadow and calling them Suzie or Precious or Tiffany,etc just helps them to validate in their own minds that they are really having sex with a woman even though that is clearly a male cock going into their male asses. Nevermind that the majority of she-male enthusiasts are the same guys running around every guy on guy sex hook up site to suck guys cocks in dirty restrooms, truck stops, and park bushes. Seeing a she-male is just the chocolate sundae dessert after plowing through their greasy hamburger and fries main course.

Even though I'm not escorting anymore my time doing that as well as dealing with the many tranny-chasers in my personal dating life tells me this is true 90% of the time. To those who are in the 10% of seeing and treating trans women as women in all aspects my apologies if any of this offended you. Being post-op I have had numerous conversations with guys trying to convince me of their sincere interest in me as a woman on various social media only to have them almost immediately stop talking to me after they found out I was no longer in possession of their most coveted obsession COCK. I have been lucky enough to date some in that 10% category never was asked to top one of them they spent more time kissing my lips and sucking my tits than worrying about sucking cock so I am grateful for men like that.

[vancouverman]

. Nevermind that the majority of she-male enthusiasts are the same guys running around every guy on guy sex hook up site to suck guys cocks in dirty restrooms, truck stops, and park bushes. Seeing a she-male is just the chocolate sundae dessert after plowing through their greasy hamburger and fries main course.
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I understand where this comment comes from and the challenges with the guys who want to be with you and other trans women........ and while that may be the majority, there are plenty of us out there that are not coming from that angle. Maybe we are a minority share and hard to notice, but it is out there. I hope you find someone who comes from the right motivations to be with you (if you already have, great.). But , I do think you should be careful to not label everyone with the same brush.

You also need to look on the other side of the coin, the majority of trans women are looking for guys that fit a physical look as a high priority (I have talked to enough to say that with confidence) , so you may turn away from men who would give you the relationships you seek simply because of how they look , their age, etc.

Most humans are superficial to a serious degree; but then lament why deep long lasting connections can not be found.

PS - not even sure why I engaged that post... lol The disgust many of the escort ladies have for their clients is a challenge at times; after all, we are a big reason why you paid for your transitions.

[TSFantasia]

I understand where this comment comes from and the challenges with the guys who want to be with you and other trans women........ and while that may be the majority, there are plenty of us out there that are not coming from that angle. Maybe we are a minority share and hard to notice, but it is out there. I hope you find someone who comes from the right motivations to be with you (if you already have, great.). But , I do think you should be careful to not label everyone with the same brush.

You also need to look on the other side of the coin, the majority of trans women are looking for guys that fit a physical look as a high priority (I have talked to enough to say that with confidence) , so you may turn away from men who would give you the relationships you seek simply because of how they look , their age, etc.

Most humans are superficial to a serious degree; but then lament why deep long lasting connections can not be found.

PS - not even sure why I engaged that post... lol The disgust many of the escort ladies have for their clients is a challenge at times; after all, we are a big reason why you paid for your transitions.

I allowed for the exception to the rule and perhaps some t-girls experience a different percentage ratio than I have. I never had an issue with guys being bisexual/bicurious I always assumed that to be a given with anyone interested in me after they found out I was trans. My issue has always been the bizarre state of denial that most of these men are in over their own sexuality. And to believe that someone who has an intense sexual attraction to sucking cock and receiving anal sex is restricting this desire to the few times a month or year that they can afford to see a t-girl escort to me isn't a realistic understanding of human sexuality.

As for young attractive t-girls wanting young attractive mates over out of shape and much older men isn't that hard to understand you still need mutual attraction and sexual chemistry for a relationship to work. The issue for trans women is that guys are attracted to them and are sexually turned on by them but their own refusal to accept their sexuality or be in any way criticized over their sexuality being anything other than straight hetero is the biggest barrier to most trans women pre or post-op having successful relationships.

But back to the original post on the flip side of my comments most of these women are trying to further their t-girl escort or porn careers, which of course does centre around the fact that they do have a cock, so the bigger the better and the more shapely and feminine they are they better. But all the same safe surgical procedures and implants are better than injecting liquid silicone into their bodies to achieve this.

[vancouverman]

I get the denial Fantasia. I get a laugh out of it and have made a quip here and there to guys who say the "i am straight but..." on here. i also do understand deeply how hard it is to find a life partner because most guys wanting to be with you are there for sexual fantasies, or have no interest in introducing you to friends or families. I have talked to women who have had relationships last months where it was always indoors and never out for dinners or movies or whatever else you want to do. I get that can be very hurtful.

I can tell every guy who wants to keep saying they are straight; as soon as you let go of labels and stop worrying about your sexuality, things become so much more fun and free, and you can really enjoy being with a wide variety of people to share your life with.

I have met Trans girls who automatically think I am gay and say I am lying when I say I love pussy and dating women, or say I am opressing (Although I never say I am straight). Bisexuality exists, but so many people think it has to be "straight or gay", no bridge between the two. It is what it is. People must have labels and want to put you into a box. I let go of that long ago and believe me it makes life a lot more enjoyable. I enjoy my sex life these last few years.. sometimes with a woman who has a vagina, and sometimes with a woman who has a penis... all good to me, and I don't hide it.

[xoxJanexox]

I can't really comprehend why some people need always to portray t-girls as a bunch of isolated aliens that no one wants to date them or go out with them! This is a pure fallacy, a lot of t-girls are taken out in public dates, and even get paid high premiums for such. Men like this exist, in good shape, age, and form. And there are also plenty of them who are only into topping. There is a huge difference between men who are seeking escorts for a fantasy session, and men who are seeking a relationship.

[candyhilton]

I do agree 100% with your statement "men who are seeking escorts for a fantasy session, and men who are seeking a relationship".


funny enough.... this is how I would categorize them...
50% of all tranny chasers will just flat out book the girl (just to get straight down to it... no strings attached... he's paying for a discreet encounter and is paying $$$ to avoid any bullshit)


49% of all tranny chasers will look you straight in the eye, and flat out lie to your face, claiming that their looking for a relationship... they just havent found "the right one", but maybe if we go home tonight together (for free of course) he may be convinced otherwise that your 'the one' for me. So said tgirl goes home with said guy, he gets what he wants, asks her to leave nicely. Never calls her again, and then she calls in to check in and he hangs up. You find these losers on craigslist, LGBT bars looking for trannies (after going to their straight bars with their homeboys of course), you will pass them on the street and they'll wisper to the girl "hey... come in this back ally and talk to me so nobody can see us talking..."
And the most FUNNY thing of all... they ALL have these 3 requirements (yes... guys that dont pay have a requirement!!!)...
-she has to be 100% passable
-she has to be 100% discreet about this
-and he's not giving her any $$$ whatsoever


1% of all tranny chasers are genuinely looking to date/marry a tgirl, and is not ashamed to be seen with her in broad daylight (passable or not)

I can't really comprehend why some people need always to portray t-girls as a bunch of isolated aliens that no one wants to date them or go out with them! This is a pure fallacy, a lot of t-girls are taken out in public dates, and even get paid high premiums for such. Men like this exist, in good shape, age, and form. And there are also plenty of them who are only into topping. There is a huge difference between men who are seeking escorts for a fantasy session, and men who are seeking a relationship.

[xoxJanexox]

49% of all tranny chasers will look you straight in the eye, and flat out lie to your face, claiming that their looking for a relationship... they just havent found "the right one", but maybe if we go home tonight together (for free of course) he may be convinced otherwise that your 'the one' for me. So said tgirl goes home with said guy, he gets what he wants, asks her to leave nicely. Never calls her again, and then she calls in to check in and he hangs up. You find these losers on craigslist, LGBT bars looking for trannies (after going to their straight bars with their homeboys of course), you will pass them on the street and they'll wisper to the girl "hey... come in this back ally and talk to me so nobody can see us talking..."

Craigslist is a horrible place irrespective of gender. It is a hook up place for the most part. LGBT bars are the wrong place to go for as a full time t-girl. Mixing with the straight crowd is far better. If a guy approached a t-girl there, he is approaching her in the full light and he is showing his attraction to everyone. Having said that, finding long term relationship is mostly better achieved outside such places.

[candyhilton]

Jane you 100% nailed it.

Craigslist and gay bars are a joke more or less.

If a straight guy does approach a tgirl at a straight bar, it deff shows that he's confident with who he is as a man, and dosen't care how society views him.

And there's nothing wrong with meeting people the normal way, like in line at the bank, the grocery store, etc.

Craigslist is a horrible place irrespective of gender. It is a hook up place for the most part. LGBT bars are the wrong place to go for as a full time t-girl. Mixing with the straight crowd is far better. If a guy approached a t-girl there, he is approaching her in the full light and he is showing his attraction to everyone. Having said that, finding long term relationship is mostly better achieved outside such places.

[TSFantasia]

Jane you 100% nailed it.

Craigslist and gay bars are a joke more or less.

If a straight guy does approach a tgirl at a straight bar, it deff shows that he's confident with who he is as a man, and dosen't care how society views him.

And there's nothing wrong with meeting people the normal way, like in line at the bank, the grocery store, etc.

In general gays/lesbians tend to be antagonistic towards trans women not sure what all the history behind that is but it is very evident and widespread. Most of the support for trans within the LGBT community is just lip service (and not the good kind . No matter how advanced you are they want to drag you down to just being gay dudes in dresses who have taken the whole cross dressing thing too far.

And as far as guys attitudes towards dating trans women the same attitudes of being players, male sluts. liars to get laid exists to almost the same extent with natal females looking for committed faithful partners. So I guess we can't cry too hard about our experience as trans women.