Cost of Hobbling out of Control

[MisterMax]

Same goes with these girls... If a girl over values her service people will not see her. She either lowers her price,

So those girls who charge $400+ are often on brink of having little to no clients at all, so do they save face & keep their rates like that, knowing they have now limited their market options? Or are thick skinned enough to then move their rates down, knowing guys pay attention & see the reduced rate, they may lose some face but at least open more doors.

also, i dont think they make that much on OF in the long run- unless they are porn stars/ celebrity etc. Their first few months on OF maybe but hard to sustain..i think the $ from OF is exagerated, for local Cdn girls.

[altid13]

So those girls who charge $400+ are often on brink of having little to no clients at all, so do they save face & keep their rates like that, knowing they have now limited their market options? Or are thick skinned enough to then move their rates down, knowing guys pay attention & see the reduced rate, they may lose some face but at least open more doors.

also, i dont think they make that much on OF in the long run- unless they are porn stars/ celebrity etc. Their first few months on OF maybe but hard to sustain..i think the $ from OF is exagerated, for local Cdn girls.

If the girls charge $400 and are not getting clients they have a decision. Lower the price or leave the business. I get saving face but we all need to pay rent/mortgage and eat.

I also get cost of living goes up for the girls as well. The price will creep up over time and I don't expect the price to be the same forever. (2011/2012 prices). Some girls are getting creative with upsells (VIP) and maybe why we are seeing price increases for her milk. I see CIS girls upsell services like BBBJ vs CBJ or COB or CIM.

With Onlyfans in general I do agree with you not all the girls make a lot of cash. It is a lot of work to keep it fresh. I have seen some of the local Canadian girls advertise Onlyfans in the US Markets like NYC and LA on TsEscorts.com. I do think some of the local girls (not all) do make some decent money on Onlyfans.

These girls have to make a living. If they want to ask for $400/HR have at it. If they are making money at $400 then good for them. If they can't make a living they will need to lower the price or starve. I may try some of them out but I will go back seeing my regular girl(s) that are in my price range.

[clig789]

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There is more detail in the full book Freakonomics, but the take away was that for the service this provider was offering, increasing her prices did not lead to any decrease in demand.



Additionally, making some assumptions about the time and effort required on the part of a provider to prepare for and manage multiple appointments, one would likely find it preferable to book 1 client for 4 hours, vs. 4 clients for 1 hour each.


There are essentially no obscuring layers to transactions in this business (unlike more complex businesses with many moving parts and dynamic inputs), so a provider will understand very quickly the effects of pricing their services and with the shift in pricing being almost exclusively higher, they are clearly finding no shortage of demand, or are comfortable enough due to other factors to see fewer clients and earn less.

[truck]

Truck you seem to be angry about this... I agree with a lot of what you are saying but respectfully I disagree on your point that a girl should not determine the value of her service. I believe there are 2 things to consider when you see prices. Perceived value and market.

Perceived Value: You have a say in the value (salary) of your service to your employer. You can ask for a raise... If the employer disagrees you can quit and go work somewhere that will pay your price. Or you can take what your employer is willing to pay. The job market will determine the price/value of your service.

Same goes with these girls... If a girl over values her service people will not see her. She either lowers her price, finds another source of income (see market) or quits all together.

Market: For these girls the market landscape has changed. They can now make money elsewhere like selling content on Onlyfans. I bet Maya and others, like Kylie (Karma), make enough money on Onlyfans they really don't need our cash. So they increase the price of their service if some guy really wants to pay... so be it. If they need cash they will lower their price, work until they get the cash, then increase the price again.

Will I pay $1000 an hour of Maya's time? No. Do I get upset she is charging that much? No. I just find a provider I like in my budget. There are lots of good girls around the $300 price point for me to see. Yes for what it is worth the $300/hr range is my budget.

I am not looking to pick a fight. I am just respectfully adding to the conversation.

Well said!
I may come across angry but I’m not, it’s more so annoyed at new girls who are CD’s charging the same rate as Zara. Makes no sense to me.


I do get that. For sure they have to value them selves and know the worth of their services offered. However I will not pay 1000 an hour for the same service I can get for 300 an hour from a far better looking girl. Makes no fuckin my sense.

if you guys are ok with getting robbed and ripped off go ahead.

just because she can charge whatever she wants doesn’t mean we will pay. Use your heads guys. Toyota takes you to the Walmart, a Bentley takes you to the same Walmart. I get the difference there. It’s a fuckin Bentley.

kylie Karma is not a fucking Bentley more like a top of the line Toyota Camry. Buy what you can afford guys, because if that Camry is selling for the same price as the Bentley it would NEVER sell! That’s all I’m saying.

[altid13]

annoyed at new girls who are CD’s charging the same rate as Zara. Makes no sense to me.

Zara is my Bentley and is $300.

[Hey You]

it’s more so annoyed at new girls who are CD’s charging the same rate as Zara. Makes no sense to me.

Yes, these are a cpl providers new to the TO market who look early in transition and yet are charging the same as Zara. Lol. I agree these girls need to be savvy/ be more realistic to stay/ survive in the game.

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[Hey You]

Or these ladies, sorry but they really need to be more realistic. If they want to stay in it. Twisted Tara is clearly a CD and says 300-400 "depending" 🤔 and for her to be "dom" 450!!! Thanks for the laugh.

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[Throbber]

kylie Karma is not a fucking Bentley more like a top of the line Toyota Camry. Buy what you can afford guys, because if that Camry is selling for the same price as the Bentley it would NEVER sell! That’s all I’m saying.

You need to frame that quote of yours, because that sounds legendary!
And totally agree. A hamburger is not gonna sell at a filet mignon price.

[justvisiting2016]

Ultimately a guy can take a stand and not pay the price and watch porn and jerk off. I tend to just pay it because it is what i want unless it is way out like 1000 per hour. Just like I get over charged for that nice bordeaux at a fine restaurant, but I pay it because I want the experience instead of "thinking about the experience and being mad it costs so much".

People here can call a guy like me a simp (a highly misused term) or a white knight (another misused term), who cares. Life is about experiences and that is something I learned and I will just do what it takes to get into first class from time to time even if it is technically over what it should be. What something is "worth" is highly subjective anyways and full of bias. Sex isn't really worth anything, we pay because it is quick and instant access and saves the often difficult journey of finding partners, or the old term "we pay them to leave" because we can have great sexual times without the often ridiculous attachments conventional relationships come with. I have good experiences almost every time because I take care of the people I meet and that does gain responses that are favorable to the experience I end up receiving.

And in my experience, there is more to sex than just the physical act. VIP level service is different in most cases, whether you wish to admit it or not. I can buy Yellow Tail for 10 bucks or Chateau Lynch Bages for 500 bucks. They are both red wine made from grapes; there is a fucking difference if you happen to love the nuances and emotional responses wines can give. That comes from drinking and sampling many wines and understanding what goes into making them. Yes, i love my wine references as it seems like a good comparison to many things that look the same on the surface but are different in price.

While I would say for example, Maya at 1000 is over priced; the fact is when I did see her it was a rare experience and she is one of the most beautiful women I have met through this "hobby". At 500 VIP which it was at the time, I got my value more than that. It is what it is.

And let's be frank. Often "this is too expensive" is code for "I want this but I cant' really afford it so I am pissed". We all want everything for a cheap price, that's normal. I wish I could buy that dream car of mine, but i can't and I won't picket the dealership bitching about their pricing.

[truck]

Ultimately a guy can take a stand and not pay the price and watch porn and jerk off. I tend to just pay it because it is what i want unless it is way out like 1000 per hour. Just like I get over charged for that nice bordeaux at a fine restaurant, but I pay it because I want the experience instead of "thinking about the experience and being mad it costs so much".

People here can call a guy like me a simp (a highly misused term) or a white knight (another misused term), who cares. Life is about experiences and that is something I learned and I will just do what it takes to get into first class from time to time even if it is technically over what it should be. What something is "worth" is highly subjective anyways and full of bias. Sex isn't really worth anything, we pay because it is quick and instant access and saves the often difficult journey of finding partners, or the old term "we pay them to leave" because we can have great sexual times without the often ridiculous attachments conventional relationships come with. I have good experiences almost every time because I take care of the people I meet and that does gain responses that are favorable to the experience I end up receiving.

And in my experience, there is more to sex than just the physical act. VIP level service is different in most cases, whether you wish to admit it or not. I can buy Yellow Tail for 10 bucks or Chateau Lynch Bages for 500 bucks. They are both red wine made from grapes; there is a fucking difference if you happen to love the nuances and emotional responses wines can give. That comes from drinking and sampling many wines and understanding what goes into making them. Yes, i love my wine references as it seems like a good comparison to many things that look the same on the surface but are different in price.

While I would say for example, Maya at 1000 is over priced; the fact is when I did see her it was a rare experience and she is one of the most beautiful women I have met through this "hobby". At 500 VIP which it was at the time, I got my value more than that. It is what it is.

And let's be frank. Often "this is too expensive" is code for "I want this but I cant' really afford it so I am pissed". We all want everything for a cheap price, that's normal. I wish I could buy that dream car of mine, but i can't and I won't picket the dealership bitching about their pricing.

I totally get that. Good response, at the end of the sexual day, we hope to have great experiences at a reasonable price point. And in my opinion there’s nothing Maya can do that Zara can’t for far less. And to me Zara looks better. But hey it’s all in what you like and can afford.

just don’t get ripped off guys, don’t go out paying CD’s the same as Zara. Be smart.

[ladyluv]

And I’m not a believer in that SP’s should charge whatever they want. So $1000 an hour is fair? How about $5000? No let’s make it $10000?

Come on guys, that’s like saying mechanics should charge whatever they want. We are not ok with this. And IF you are ok with this, you are getting ripped off, robbed, and played for a damn fool. Because someone will pay that rate and we will be forced out of the market.

Simply put, the service you are getting for $500 is the same service you’d get for $300. You push your dick in and out, she pushes her dick in and out. Wake up guys.

Anybody want to tell me the difference there?

If she charges what the other girls are charging then cool, but if she prices her self too high obviously most guys won’t pay. And her clients would be far less.

We can all do the math, if your favourite TS starts pulling up in a new Ferrari guess where she got the money to afford it? And her rates would probably jump because she would complain about paying to maintain the car at the dealership who can charge whatever they want for an oil change. Guess what Alex? Your TS just went up to $1000 for the half!

So stop with the BS about they can charge whatever they want. They are not high end TS. It’s not like they are celebrities or anything. And even still it’s the same act of sex. In and out. So save your money and go to girls you can afford, that won’t rip you off.

I totally get what you’re saying, and you’re right. Alls I’m saying is they can charge anything they like, but I just won’t be seeing them. Not a chance in hell I’d pay $500. Never have, never will. I don’t think the SPs charging that kind of money are anywhere in touch with reality tbh

[truck]

I totally get what you’re saying, and you’re right. Alls I’m saying is they can charge anything they like, but I just won’t be seeing them. Not a chance in hell I’d pay $500. Never have, never will. I don’t think the SPs charging that kind of money are anywhere in touch with reality tbh

Agreed!

[FalconHeavy]

Hmmm…. This kind of Hobbing? 🤣🤣🤣

[justvisiting2016]

^^ That was great

[Farlo]

its called capitalism. people can charge whatever they want and customers have the option to pay for that service. Demanding someone charge less because you can't afford it is ridiculous.