Will most she-males do this eventually ??? WHY ???

[tslisaparadise]

would you say the same about clients



I disagree, most all relationships between any sexes, is about sex period, and that's not a bad thing,

I've had many friends (once they are married) and knew many friends parents, who never and i mean never have sex. That's sad.

So, Lisa, crazy question, if you met someone, and I mean IF, and he was very well off, not rich but by no means poor, let's say a seven digit bank account, and he really liked you, and you him, would you still escort ...
I doubt it.

One thing I love about Lisa, she always speaks her mind, and never holds back, gotta love her.

i have met a guy ive been dating for over a year now and its not easy on him or me,hes not rich his bank account is probably less then mine but i know hes here for sex cause when i put out hes a great guy when he wakes up but when i dont hes a prick period.he doesnt handle my working very well but he seems to forget if i wasnt an escort he would never have met me since it was him who rented me once a week for over a year lol.i try putting myself in his shoes and cant do it.he cant afford to keep me without working and im not ready to stop working so its a no win situation.im not the easiest person to be around if your not canadian thats for sure ,we have so many cultural differences him being latino and all.so do i think it can work out i honestly dont know but if it doesnt then ill take full responsability as im still growing as a person fighting for my own little place in the world .

[tslisaparadise]

So we on for Swiss Chalet?

lol,i dont eat at swiss chalet but if ya said the keg then ya bring it on lol

[dan_calgary]

i have met a guy ive been dating for over a year now and its not easy on him or me,hes not rich his bank account is probably less then mine but i know hes here for sex cause when i put out hes a great guy when he wakes up but when i dont hes a prick period.he doesnt handle my working very well but he seems to forget if i wasnt an escort he would never have met me since it was him who rented me once a week for over a year lol.i try putting myself in his shoes and cant do it.he cant afford to keep me without working and im not ready to stop working so its a no win situation.im not the easiest person to be around if your not canadian thats for sure ,we have so many cultural differences him being latino and all.so do i think it can work out i honestly dont know but if it doesnt then ill take full responsability as im still growing as a person fighting for my own little place in the world .

wishing you the BEST Lisa, hope everything works out for you !!!




i think the keg is great idea, everyone is invited, lol
hopefully sensual doesn't have his heart set on Swiss Chalet

[sadeh]

lol

cheers

as we all are, i'm just hoping to date a t-girl, where money WON'T come into the conversation

(I offered to take a t-girl out for dinner, her reply was "I have to charge you, cas I will be losing business if we go out."),

I will try my best, the length of the relationship will be mutual, but I will NOT end a relationship cas she is a t-girl, it will end cas we were not compatable.



you don't know, and that attitude is what guys like me have to fight constantly, and its a no-win battle, how do we ever get a fair chance or even an oppourtunity I'm not saying that guys are not like that, but not ALL OF US ARE !!!

they are not many places we can go to meet a t-girl, most of us would prefer a girl who is not an escort, but where are they, we have to accept their profession, where do t-girls go to meet guys that want to be with a t-girl or do they just go to clubs and tell the guy later that they are a T-girl.



and that's a personal choice by the person, but what does it change, you are still a t-girl, snip or no snip.



I fall into this category, does this make me a bad person, I hope not, this is my preference, as we all have preferences in life.



and that is the type of person I'm looking for, it's gonna be a long wait I know !!!



I so hope you find it and wish you the best that life can offer !!!



absolutely, and NO ONE will ever argue this point, you are so right !!!

[sensual_lover20]

Keg it is m' lady.

[tgirllover13]

Guys just cant seem to grasp it. We make excuses, like they all escort, or they wont give us a chance. We fail to see what the real problem is here. Its us. We refuse to admit that we dont honestly give two shits about these wonderful ladies. No matter what we say, its all about the sex, its all about the fetish. Because thats what it is to us, just a fetish. We think we want a relationship with a tgirl, but we dont, not really. What we want is to be able to fulfill our sexual desires at no cost whenever we want.

A relationship is about being with the girl for who they are as a person, and how you feel about them deep down. Its about support, and caring, and of course love. The only thing we love about these girls are their cocks. Its why we question them on how they could ever want to chop it off, and have no interest in post op girls. If we actually cared about them, we would want them to cut it off.

These girls are on a journey to become physically what they have always been in essence, a woman. We really need to embrace this reality, if we are ever to be able to understand them. To these girls, their current lifestyle is just the means to the end. Ultimately, they want to settle down in a relationship, but it has to be with a man who cares about her, and her feelings, and not about what is under her pants. They want to be loved.

[Wiseone26]

Guys just cant seem to grasp it. We make excuses, like they all escort, or they wont give us a chance. We fail to see what the real problem is here. Its us. We refuse to admit that we dont honestly give two shits about these wonderful ladies. No matter what we say, its all about the sex, its all about the fetish. Because thats what it is to us, just a fetish. We think we want a relationship with a tgirl, but we dont, not really. What we want is to be able to fulfill our sexual desires at no cost whenever we want.

A relationship is about being with the girl for who they are as a person, and how you feel about them deep down. Its about support, and caring, and of course love. The only thing we love about these girls are their cocks. Its why we question them on how they could ever want to chop it off, and have no interest in post op girls. If we actually cared about them, we would want them to cut it off.

These girls are on a journey to become physically what they have always been in essence, a woman. We really need to embrace this reality, if we are ever to be able to understand them. To these girls, their current lifestyle is just the means to the end. Ultimately, they want to settle down in a relationship, but it has to be with a man who cares about her, and her feelings, and not about what is under her pants. They want to be loved.

wow! shocked and impressed. Some people do understand...

[toban]

You have put into words, things that most guys here can not seem to accept. -> -> ->

- > -> Right on tgirllover13!

Most girls who are truly "in transition" are here principally to assist in accomplishing that long and difficult task they have taken upon themselves, sometimes even leaving family and friends behind to make it happen.

The T-Girls we are familiar with here are not here for the same reasons as we men are here. The girls are not here looking for a long-time partner in life. Good grief, the men here are hardly what one would consider "good prospects" in a relationship or a matrimonial sense.

Guys come here to meet girls to live out a fantasy, to have forbiddden sex! The girl's who are here have a far different goal! Her goal is not to go out to "get sex" as is the men's, but it is basically to get the resources to further their transition and to help sustain themselves while doing so.

When a girl decides to remove the penis as a part of her anatomy it is done with her total transformation in mind. I'm sure that procedure has to require much soul searching before the decision is confirmed. It is a very personal thing indeed!

If when she is ready to go all the way she is coerced by her partner into forgoing a part of the transformation procedure just to please him, how can she be who she really wishes to be ? Her plan will have been thwarted by her "supposed" lover.

A male partner who wishes to block that process has a very limited understanding of his girls needs. His understanding of her is very flawed. By asking his girl not to "snip" he is being very prejudicial and completely self-serving by asking her to over-ride her life-long desire in favour of his sexual desire!

Guys just cant seem to grasp it. We make excuses, like they all escort, or they wont give us a chance. We fail to see what the real problem is here. Its us. We refuse to admit that we dont honestly give two shits about these wonderful ladies. No matter what we say, its all about the sex, its all about the fetish. Because thats what it is to us, just a fetish. We think we want a relationship with a tgirl, but we dont, not really. What we want is to be able to fulfill our sexual desires at no cost whenever we want.

A relationship is about being with the girl for who they are as a person, and how you feel about them deep down. Its about support, and caring, and of course love. The only thing we love about these girls are their cocks. Its why we question them on how they could ever want to chop it off, and have no interest in post op girls. If we actually cared about them, we would want them to cut it off.

These girls are on a journey to become physically what they have always been in essence, a woman. We really need to embrace this reality, if we are ever to be able to understand them. To these girls, their current lifestyle is just the means to the end. Ultimately, they want to settle down in a relationship, but it has to be with a man who cares about her, and her feelings, and not about what is under her pants. They want to be loved.

[sadeh]

When i go for dinner, thats a compliment, ive never charged a man to wine and dine me,
however dessert is an expensive delicacy on my menu.

and be a drug addict/dealer, and treat them like sh-t, and take all their money, and be totally useless in life.

I guess you're right sensual, we'll never make it.




I guess the reality is, to end the fantasy, guess I am heading back to the genetic girl world, damn, really had hoped there was something here.

[sadeh]

thanks toban

Happy new year Toban,

guys please just understand this;
most importantly, its about being a girl
not a ts or shemale,

and yes most tgirls do get there.

- > -> Right on tgirllover13!

Most girls who are truly "in transition" are here principally to assist in accomplishing that long and difficult task they have taken upon themselves, sometimes even leaving family and friends behind to make it happen.

The T-Girls we are familiar with here are not here for the same reasons as we men are here. The girls are not here looking for a long-time partner in life. Good grief, the men here are hardly what one would consider "good prospects" in a relationship or a matrimonial sense.

Guys come here to meet girls to live out a fantasy, to have forbiddden sex! The girl's who are here have a far different goal! Her goal is not to go out to "get sex" as is the men's, but it is basically to get the resources to further their transition and to help sustain themselves while doing so.

When a girl decides to remove the penis as a part of her anatomy it is done with her total transformation in mind. I'm sure that procedure has to require much soul searching before the decision is confirmed. It is a very personal thing indeed!

If when she is ready to go all the way she is coerced by her partner into forgoing a part of the transformation procedure just to please him, how can she be who she really wishes to be ? Her plan will have been thwarted by her "supposed" lover.

A male partner who wishes to block that process has a very limited understanding of his girls needs. His understanding of her is very flawed. By asking his girl not to "snip" he is being very prejudicial and completely self-serving by asking her to over-ride her life-long desire in favour of his sexual desire!

[dan_calgary]

oh, btw,

Marlena DID NOT snip, I just posted what she had said referring to another she-male, sorry for any confusion, I didn't think it was necessary to repeat the person's name, as I was just asking a general question, and not directing to certain people, once again sorry for any confusion !

my fault

lol

[prettyboy]

Hence the dichotomy that will always exist between us.
A man can love and support his fantasy girl[s] , but our paths are divergent and inevitable.
You can catch a bird with a few crumbs of bread,but you have to keep it in a cage if you won't allow it to fly away, and our girls want to fly away to a different place.

[Guest]

No you can keep the fantasy, but remember that your fantasy lies not in the realm of relationships. Actually, in order for t-girls to get out of this taboo stage we need more in the non-escort fields. Then and only then these girls can open up for a relationship because I find that dating a girl who escorts herself could be difficult for any man to deal, not to mention the lady herself.

I dunno - not exactly the same thing but many years ago I lived with a girl (not a tgirl) who regularly did porno. Not everyday, but whenever she could get a gig. It never bothered me. I mean, I knew when she was on a shoot that she was sucking and fucking other guys (and other girls) and on those few occasions when we'd actually talk about it, it kind of turned me on. It certainly didn't make me jealous, even though I knew those guys had to be way bigger (and probably better) than I was. I always figured that she fucked them for money; she fucked me because she wanted to.

Actually, her chosen profession had nothing to do with the relationship ending. That was because she developed a very nasty drug addiction and ultimately chose coke over me.

I imagine that I would probably have felt the same if she had been an escort - not a huge difference really.