Humansexual?

[kristopin]

label me

in the interest of all in this forum i am asking you all to label me.

if you have read any of my threads and or posts then you should have a grasp of my sexual identity. bit i will try to define it for you here. i am not straight. i am not bi. i am not gay. i no longer feel sexually attracted to women. i am physically, emotionally drawn to tgirls. this is not a choice on my part. it is who i am. i am not a tranny chaser. i prefer their company.

so have a go. throw a label at me. lets see if we can all define my sexuality. i mean if you want you can call me a deviant old fuck. i simply dont care.

Nikki, if you recall another of my posts you will see where i remembered the first time i stopped thinking of my special friend as a tgirl and wondered what 'SHE' was doing. you thought me the difference. you helped change my thinking. you helped me define my sexuality.

[LadyMissKier]

We're not trans by choice; we're trans by necessity. I do all this political and education stuff simply because it needs to be done, and there's nobody else who is willing to do it. I identify as "tgirl" because it takes a great deal of weight off my shoulders - I don't have to worry if I'm "passing" or "fitting in." But it's the "girl" part that's important to me, the part that I define myself by; the "t" merely reflects my experiences and my reality.

But make no mistake - if I could go back into my mom's womb, and decide if my chromosomes would be XX or XY, I'd choose XX without a second thought. And I'd leave all the trans-bullshit behind, because going through this process is a fucking nightmare sometimes! So many people sit there and eroticize it without realizing just how exhausting and difficult it can be. Sure, I make the most of it, just as many others do, but that doesn't mean we wouldn't trade it in (in a heartbeat!) if we only had the choice. Our options are either to transition and take the really hard road, or live in denial and take the really, really, really hard road. Great choice, huh?

I love being XY and trans by choice.

I got lucky being XY, then chose to be trans. I dont want to fit in to the mold, the stereo type.

I have something all you XX girls don't; a Y chromosome and a penis. I don't want your 2nd "X" chromosome.

Then I would be just another girl, not that one pink flower standing out among all the white cherry blossoms.

Every one is so polar. Whats wrong with being in the middle?

[cobbler]

in the interest of all in this forum i am asking you all to label me.

if you have read any of my threads and or posts then you should have a grasp of my sexual identity. bit i will try to define it for you here. i am not straight. i am not bi. i am not gay. i no longer feel sexually attracted to women. i am physically, emotionally drawn to tgirls. this is not a choice on my part. it is who i am. i am not a tranny chaser. i prefer their company.

so have a go. throw a label at me. lets see if we can all define my sexuality. i mean if you want you can call me a deviant old fuck. i simply dont care.

Nikki, if you recall another of my posts you will see where i remembered the first time i stopped thinking of my special friend as a tgirl and wondered what 'SHE' was doing. you thought me the difference. you helped change my thinking. you helped me define my sexuality.

Well Kristopin, here goes. Sorry, but I think you're confused and seeking validation.
Not that there's anything wrong with that......
You've already joined the club after all. It's the same one we all belong to with varying degrees of angst.

[snoodle]

This is for all you guys out there who search for terms to define yourselves by, other than "chaser" or "admirer" or whatever. How about this?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=humansexual

I'm not a big fan of categories in general, but I recognize their significance; I thought this one was the best I've seen yet, because it can be used to describe just about anyone.

Thoughts?

I think I am humansexual. I have had sex with women, Tgirls and men. I like it all. I also tend to focus on the individual not the gender.
Gender doesn't seem to really have any importance to me.

[kristopin]

i asked for a label

Well Kristopin, here goes. Sorry, but I think you're confused and seeking validation.
Not that there's anything wrong with that......
You've already joined the club after all. It's the same one we all belong to with varying degrees of angst.

io asked for a label not a lecture. what word describes me. it is not 'gay'

[Ray]

Well Kristopin, That is difficult. I am almost in a similar position. I am definitely not gay and I still subscribe to Playboy, but I am much more interested in being with someone like Nikki or Lisa than I am with a GG. I hope to find out even more about how I feel next week. If things go as planned, which in my case rarely do, I plan on having a 3way or 3some with Nikki and a GG friend of hers. Just hope I'm up for the experience and yes, pun intended.

[kristopin]

labels

i agree with wat Nikki and everyone is saying. i am not a fan of labels myself. sex is sex. but in order for us to be able to talk about our various kinds of sexual behaviour identity etc we need a label for someone who prefers to be in the company of tgirls, this preference if exclusive needs a label. so if i go to my doctor and say i am gay she knows what i mean. if i have a 'word' for my preference then likewise she would know what i mean. i dont like having to stumble around trying to explain myself. there is also the additive effeect that i believe society in general needs a word so they can understand that this is a normal sexuality. if they have a word they can latch onto then it increases awareness etc.

[MischaSun]

"In truth there is no such thing as gender difference"-Tara

I agree Kristopin, this is so true.

I know that Im coming late to this party. And I am not flaming anyone; just trying to add to the discussion & move it along. We really don't know, though I expect that the translators ((the original trans :-) )) have taken away some of the true discussion for the benefit of explanation, for the benefit of making sure they get accepted, for the benefit of dumbing down, for the benefit of their benefactors, etc. and just doing the best the can as they look through the looking glass. (A side consideration is the diet of Sutra studying Buddhists in the south , being weighed toward vegetarian style is less hormone testestorone free boosting than the meat eating northern Tibeteans in general. Though the monks in the Tibetean schools I visited were entirely less testosterone ego and more effem, gentle and sub. Though that was only my observation. When I visited the young monks at the McCloud Ganj temple (on the mountain where the Dali Lama considers home, I was told that the day before the boys 9-17 were spending that night watching blue movies. Movies we would call porn. )

The significant teaching I am sure that has been missed and it really is because most teacher of Buddhism and Zen are not teachers for the most developed students. While I am not claiming that title, I know I am blessed with a tremendous ability to understand before my ideas get polluted with scriptural translations. Whether that is in oriental traditions or occidental. Pagan or Theocentric. So not to seek a Good or goddess or famous teacher to quote, Here is my gospel, I hope it is useful.

First of all never devalue your own experience. Nor believe only what another tells you is the right interpretation or reason. there is always another way of seeing things that is equally affirmed as true and is and likely will change in your mind as you have more experiences and relationships. And with a little training we have the capacity to go back to seminal moments and re-interpret them so to become a greater person or a weaker person Weaker comes from devaluing yourself and greater comes from accepting and integrating yourself.

now comes the juicy part: Sex identity and desire or receptive to stimuli come in a great range and middle range is identified as male-female. However sexual behavior is not tethered to a particular range. for example it is not homosexual identity for men living with men in Mexico or away from home in the US to suck and fuck each other and accept as an ego identity who they are, not defaulting to general "red neck" definitions as to behavior basis rather than self image basis, though some do either for time or a lifetime. We all have the capacity to live on any part of this range and while most choose a tribal or cultural definition and behave in that range and identify with that particular range, it is only necessary to the extent that we need emotional support as to the OKness of our behavior and our values and mores. That means that there is a such thing as gender.
Now one day we will be taught that whenever something is affirmed it is denied and when denied it is affirmed. This is easier to understand philosophically in either science or eastern religions but exits in western thought as well just not in the Aristotelian choices colleges limit themselves or hide themselves behind. Accepting this path, though as stated above the proof that there is such a thing as gender and disproving the attributions to Green Tara, there is also the no gender state both sexual and on sexual. This has the delightful opportunity to understand others without objectifying our lover as you and me. It becomes one heart thinking in two bodies. You may have had a mother that provided you with this experience or a beautiful gay lover and friend.
A further discussion includes oral and anal sex, kissing, nursing, titillation and orgasm, Objectifying another and including as oneself another.

BTW those interested in this openness discussion, please do email or efemail as I am very interested in hearing your thoughts as well as mine and thrilled at the loquacious and expletive contributions and likely may not find them when visiting here

MischaSun is found at [email protected]