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    Since returning to this industry so much has changed.

    Clients expect/demand bareback

    Providers are providing bareback

    Provider's rates have risen so high some as 700 for 1 hour when they old standard was 200 or 300 i believe 100 for cd?

    There are zero sites for free escort advertising now which probably accounts for the price hike

    A Lot of clients [not all clients] expect to be able to do any and everything with you if they pay above 300. Any restrictions are met with anger and hostility. Seems the gentleman aspect has all but disappeared.

    MAny providers use fake pictures to lure poor unsuspecting clients in.I've even had to contact several to have mine removed.





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  • #2
    A lot of providers have raised their price and still kick you out the door asap, while refusing the do what they have agreed too. They have super photoshopped pictures and when you arrive you might as well call neve because we are about to do an episode of catfish. They use toys when they say top, covers when they say bbbj, closed lip pecks and then rush you to finish when they say Dfk no rush.

    I don't know what it used to be like, but as a client, it feels like a lot of bait and switch.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Loxfox View Post
      A lot of providers have raised their price and still kick you out the door asap, while refusing the do what they have agreed too. They have super photoshopped pictures and when you arrive you might as well call neve because we are about to do an episode of catfish. They use toys when they say top, covers when they say bbbj, closed lip pecks and then rush you to finish when they say Dfk no rush.

      I don't know what it used to be like, but as a client, it feels like a lot of bait and switch.

      ​​​​​​Smh terrible. Personally I've always tried to be honest with clients and tell them I'm not the girl for dfk or submissive roles unless i feel a special connection with the client. So in other words don't expect it! ive made those boundaries very clear and have had many clients agree but try to break those boundaries when meeting me. So Honesty/respect needs to be presented and maintained on both sides.
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      • #4
        The game has changed.

        Guys stick to the girls that give good service.
        they might be older but face it, we are older now too.
        so enjoy:
        Zara
        Lucy
        Beyonce
        Karolina
        Laika
        Lola
        Lexie Doll
        HoodHo
        Maldita Mess
        Katalina
        Aliyah
        Amor

        Theres a good solid list of girls you can see for 300 and you get good service. The only one on that list I never experienced is Lola. But they are all worth it.

        Don’t pay more than 300. No matter what don’t, I see some has increased the rate to 340/350 like Katalina.

        Dont pay her more, because she will just keep raising it. Nothing over 300.

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        • #5
          I almost never see SPs anymore based on everything you listed. Some of my favourite SPs have retired or rarely come around anymore. Too many times in the past I got ripped off, or showed up to have the SP not looking like their photos. The biggest factor for me is the prices. I’m not risking getting ripped off again to try someone new, I just won’t do it anymore.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by truck View Post
            The game has changed.

            Guys stick to the girls that give good service.
            they might be older but face it, we are older now too.
            so enjoy:
            Zara
            Lucy
            Beyonce
            Karolina
            Laika
            Lola
            Lexie Doll
            HoodHo
            Maldita Mess
            Katalina
            Aliyah
            Amor

            Theres a good solid list of girls you can see for 300 and you get good service. The only one on that list I never experienced is Lola. But they are all worth it.

            Don’t pay more than 300. No matter what don’t, I see some has increased the rate to 340/350 like Katalina.

            Dont pay her more, because she will just keep raising it. Nothing over 300.
            While I agree with what you said, most people here will continue to want to see these girls passed their retirement. So I believe keeping an eye out for the new ones are essential as well. I hung out with a friend of mine not too long ago and she told me she is looking to retire soon as well and that if she wasn't held back the past few years this would probably be her last year. If theae girls leave I believe new high quality ones will appear. Supply and demand.

            The girls you mentioned could also be holding back potential younger high quality sp from making a name for themselves in the industry.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hoodho View Post
              Since returning to this industry so much has changed.

              Clients expect/demand bareback

              Providers are providing bareback

              Provider's rates have risen so high some as 700 for 1 hour when they old standard was 200 or 300 i believe 100 for cd?

              There are zero sites for free escort advertising now which probably accounts for the price hike

              A Lot of clients [not all clients] expect to be able to do any and everything with you if they pay above 300. Any restrictions are met with anger and hostility. Seems the gentleman aspect has all but disappeared.

              MAny providers use fake pictures to lure poor unsuspecting clients in.I've even had to contact several to have mine removed.




              A lot has changed and a lot has not changed. If I may be formal. Ms. Ho you speak of clients expecting or demanding bareback service. Interesting. Clients have been bombarded by photos and videos of SP's taking raw dick like raw dick is going extinct. An SP depicts raw-dogging in their promotional material, and then receives a multitude of requests for similar activity. Odd to say the least. Now, as far as SP's providing bareback, welcome to the age of PREP, which ironically addresses HIV and NONE of the cornucopia of STI's out there.

              As for rates, everyone got on the Covid train. For some time, people saw price increases for everything. Big business cashed in. Did one think only a few people would get the same great idea? Btw it's up to $500/hr. for a CD now. Shout out Mackie for breaking that ceiling. Sidney Kennedy has conjured up a way of extracting $300/hour from clients, with only a massage and a hand job. No hair required. When you can make more in an hour then most SP's spend on a wig, and not have to get fucked, you're onto something. Game changer. Advertising was free only because a visionary came along, who saw the bigger picture (and a whole lotta tranny asshole), in this industry. Shout out Rockheart! Lucky bastard! As far as gentlemen, there are still a few out there. Trust me. As for the $300/hr. rate, I believe there are plenty of hombres out there who feel they can do whatever, at any rate honestly. Ladies tell me things. Unfortunate indeed.

              Then again there are plenty of SP's who are suspect, to say the least. Stolen, borrowed, fake, retouched, and blurred photos are the name of the game these days for most SP's. Fair is fair. If an SP asks for my photo, I send that filly a pic of Ryan Reynolds. Damn skippy!
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              • #8
                Ya prices have gone up and with it so have our demands as clients. It only makes sense, if you're charging me more I'm going to want more and will not be happy if I don't get it because then I feel ripped off.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shank M All View Post

                  A lot has changed and a lot has not changed. If I may be formal. Ms. Ho you speak of clients expecting or demanding bareback service. Interesting. Clients have been bombarded by photos and videos of SP's taking raw dick like raw dick is going extinct. An SP depicts raw-dogging in their promotional material, and then receives a multitude of requests for similar activity. Odd to say the least. Now, as far as SP's providing bareback, welcome to the age of PREP, which ironically addresses HIV and NONE of the cornucopia of STI's out there
                  I have raw sex in my promotional material with my partner I'm currently in a relationship with. Doesn't mean I'm offering unprotected sex with clients. I've never understood that logic of sex unprotected in a video means sex unprotected with everyone. In my conversations with providers many don't have any type of promotional material depicting unprotected sex yet there still being demanded to engage in bareback. Which is because many other providers are offering it now thanks to as you mentioned prep.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hoodho View Post

                    I have raw sex in my promotional material with my partner I'm currently in a relationship with. Doesn't mean I'm offering unprotected sex with clients. I've never understood that logic of sex unprotected in a video means sex unprotected with everyone. In my conversations with providers many don't have any type of promotional material depicting unprotected sex yet there still being demanded to engage in bareback. Which is because many other providers are offering it now thanks to as you mentioned prep.
                    There will always be clients that ask for that and personally I never allow bareback anal for any amount of money and anytime a client asks for it, I won't see that client. If they are having unprotected anal with escorts who allow that, I don't trust that they are clean from other STI's and I will not even risk giving them oral. It might seem like you're turning down lots of money but instead think of it as turning down unsafe situations. I've had many clients appreciate how strict I am with that so don't let anyone make you think you need to offer bareback to make money. I also ask what services a client is wanting before I schedule a session with them and I also confirm that they've read my restrictions. It prevents them from showing up with expectations that will never be met. They want to get what they're paying for and I want to avoid unsafe situations so that's what works best for me.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hoodho View Post

                      I have raw sex in my promotional material with my partner I'm currently in a relationship with. Doesn't mean I'm offering unprotected sex with clients. I've never understood that logic of sex unprotected in a video means sex unprotected with everyone. In my conversations with providers many don't have any type of promotional material depicting unprotected sex yet there still being demanded to engage in bareback. Which is because many other providers are offering it now thanks to as you mentioned prep.
                      Interesting that you would automatically assume I was referring to the gratuitous raw-dogging in your videos, as apposed to another SP. I would suggest that depicting raw sex in your 'promotional' material, doesn't help your cause much. Your 'promotional' material is promotional why? Because it promotes you and your service. The acts depicted should be representational of what a client can expect when purchasing your service. A tad naive to think that people wouldn't ask for something they have seen in your 'promotional' material. Imagine a car commercial where you see a car racing down the track at an unimaginable speed, then completing maneuvers that seem almost beyond belief. Then you see the disclaimer that it is a professional driver, closed track, and a modified (500hp) version of the base model you'll find in the showroom. Now why would they need the disclaimer? Rhetorical. Most people know that when someone sees something, they want it and expect it. Human nature. Your mistake was to think it was a matter of logic in the first place. I see that your 'promotional' material carries no such disclaimers. Reality is a real bitch sometimes. PREP yourself for it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AveryRaeTrans View Post

                        There will always be clients that ask for that and personally I never allow bareback anal for any amount of money and anytime a client asks for it, I won't see that client. If they are having unprotected anal with escorts who allow that, I don't trust that they are clean from other STI's and I will not even risk giving them oral. It might seem like you're turning down lots of money but instead think of it as turning down unsafe situations. I've had many clients appreciate how strict I am with that so don't let anyone make you think you need to offer bareback to make money. I also ask what services a client is wanting before I schedule a session with them and I also confirm that they've read my restrictions. It prevents them from showing up with expectations that will never be met. They want to get what they're paying for and I want to avoid unsafe situations so that's what works best for me.
                        I like your rules! Thank you for keeping the community safe.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by truck View Post
                          The game has changed.

                          Guys stick to the girls that give good service.
                          they might be older but face it, we are older now too.
                          so enjoy:
                          Zara
                          Lucy
                          Beyonce
                          Karolina
                          Laika
                          Lola
                          Lexie Doll
                          HoodHo
                          Maldita Mess
                          Katalina
                          Aliyah
                          Amor

                          Theres a good solid list of girls you can see for 300 and you get good service. The only one on that list I never experienced is Lola. But they are all worth it.

                          Don’t pay more than 300. No matter what don’t, I see some has increased the rate to 340/350 like Katalina.

                          Dont pay her more, because she will just keep raising it. Nothing over 300.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Shank M All View Post

                            Interesting that you would automatically assume I was referring to the gratuitous raw-dogging in your videos, as apposed to another SP. I would suggest that depicting raw sex in your 'promotional' material, doesn't help your cause much. Your 'promotional' material is promotional why? Because it promotes you and your service. The acts depicted should be representational of what a client can expect when purchasing your service. A tad naive to think that people wouldn't ask for something they have seen in your 'promotional' material. Imagine a car commercial where you see a car racing down the track at an unimaginable speed, then completing maneuvers that seem almost beyond belief. Then you see the disclaimer that it is a professional driver, closed track, and a modified (500hp) version of the base model you'll find in the showroom. Now why would they need the disclaimer? Rhetorical. Most people know that when someone sees something, they want it and expect it. Human nature. Your mistake was to think it was a matter of logic in the first place. I see that your 'promotional' material carries no such disclaimers. Reality is a real bitch sometimes. PREP yourself for it.
                            Doesn't help my " cause "? theres no "cause" i need help with. If you're stupid enough to think that because I'm having sex with my partner unprotected I'm going to have sex with ANY stranger unprotected that sounds like a YOU problem. Please spare me your analogy I'm not a car dealership I'm a human being! You are not purchasing me you are renting my time and any restrictions i have are within my rights as a human being! as mentioned by another provider y'all clients still demand bareback no matter whether sex acts shown are protected or not! Furthermore i don't mind being asked by clients if i will bareback them,i simply say no. What i don't like is it being demanded or the Entitlement that some clients have that i should because of a video they watched. You are not going to bully me into risking my health.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AveryRaeTrans View Post

                              There will always be clients that ask for that and personally I never allow bareback anal for any amount of money and anytime a client asks for it, I won't see that client. If they are having unprotected anal with escorts who allow that, I don't trust that they are clean from other STI's and I will not even risk giving them oral. It might seem like you're turning down lots of money but instead think of it as turning down unsafe situations. I've had many clients appreciate how strict I am with that so don't let anyone make you think you need to offer bareback to make money. I also ask what services a client is wanting before I schedule a session with them and I also confirm that they've read my restrictions. It prevents them from showing up with expectations that will never be met. They want to get what they're paying for and I want to avoid unsafe situations so that's what works best for me.
                              I agree with you. Its honestly a huge turn off when i get a request like that and judging from the overall hostility many clients secretly harbor for providers it makes me suspect a low key intention to transmit whatever sti they have.
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