Some 2003 Toronto escorts and the pricings of the day!

[toban]

While looking through some old files yesterday during a housekeeping on my HDD I came across one of my early "To Do Lists" of circa 2002/2003. I post this just info for the heck of it. It may be of no interest to anyone, but if it is, have a chuckle on me. At one time or another, (No, not in any one trip! Geez), I did spend time with 10 of these 15 girls. One of them turned out to be a total waste of good skin.

I found it kind of interesting to compare recent requested donations 2009, with those of 2003. Of course some of the girls are no longer working in Toronto but some are still here. It may be interesting for others to compare the age listed then with the age listed today, 5 or 6 years later.


Also interesting to me was that one girl's donation had risen from $125 in 2003, to $400 when I saw her in 2007, which is just a bit more than the rate of inflation! I had been trying for 4 years but was never able to connect with her until 2007. She was here again last week but I did not check her prices and today, her ad is gone from EROS.

Only yesterday in another thread I had mentioned a strip club and could not remember the name and here it was in this ToDo list.



Victoria 416-927-9724 shemalevictoria@hotmail. downtown 19, 5''7", 105 7" Braz/E.Indian $150 in mon-fri 10-11 $200 out

Tasha 416-913-7820 [email protected] King W, Near the Ex. 23, 120 5'6" 7"

Kelly / Panthera 416 410 4285 brn/hzl 120 lbs. 26 y/o 5'7" 32A-26-32 9 1/2" $300 out

Nora & Barbara (Lucy & Suzy) 416-961-0203 [email protected] Nora (Lucy)-20,36DD 110,5'6", 7"
Barbara (Suzy)-25,38DD,140,5'7", 9" $160 in

Kara-May, Erikah 416-924-2068 27, 5'9", 7" asian $100

Jade Scott 416-316-9616 [email protected] downtown 27, 5'9", 130, 7", $200+ in, $300 out

Kim 416-934-9356 34, 5'7", 145, 8" $100 >150

Candy (now Allessandra) 416-801-9444 23, 5'4", 120, 5" $125

Amber 647-224-8018 slim, blonde

Asia 416-929-1390 27, 5' 9", 6", asian $200

Carmen 416-389-6600 23, 5'9", 7", $140in $150 > 250 out

Diwata 416-830-0233 28, 5'4", 110, 5", asian, in $200

Sandra 905 306 0350 mississauga 23, 5'6", 95, 7", asian in

Aisha 416-913-8292 downtown 24, 5'7",135, 38-26-32C in / out

PALACE PARTY SHEMALE STRIPPERS 416-763-8546 Palace Party up above REMINGTONNIGHTCLUB 379 Yonge (N of Dundas / S of Carlton $30 entry + $20/dance

[Rockheart]

Do you keep that list on the fridge, beside your grocery list?


I went to the Shemale Strippers above Remingtons a few times.
It was great up there, very cozy and comfortable with a little bar.
Like the Lounge Strippers but a little more like what you might see in Thailand.

Mostly the Asian girls working there too.
Karolina, Terah, Karen, Cheska, Eva, Pantera etc.

Ahhh, the good old days.....

[toban]

No but I wish I had kept it on the fridge!

I discovered it quite by accident as it was "hidden" in my HDD. Wonder what else I've got squirreled away that I can't find?

Yeah, I also remember an Aloha that was performing that night and of course Kim was there. I met Karen and Panthera later on, mmmh, mmmh, good!

Do you keep that list on the fridge, beside your grocery list?


I went to the Shemale Strippers above Remingtons a few times.
It was great up there, very cozy and comfortable with a little bar.
Like the Lounge Strippers but a little more like what you might see in Thailand.

Mostly the Asian girls working there too.
Karolina, Terah, Karen, Cheska, Eva, Pantera etc.

Ahhh, the good old days.....

[maddplotter]

I went to the one above Remington's only once. I saw Mercedes, Nina, and Mia there. I think Lisa Paradise was there too and she was the only one who took off her bottom. My first lap dance was with Mercedes and I ended the night with a couple from Nina. Ahhh, memories.

[tslisaparadise]

I went to the one above Remington's only once. I saw Mercedes, Nina, and Mia there. I think Lisa Paradise was there too and she was the only one who took off her bottom. My first lap dance was with Mercedes and I ended the night with a couple from Nina. Ahhh, memories.

nope never been in remingtons

[flight09]

Do you keep that list on the fridge, beside your grocery list?


I went to the Shemale Strippers above Remingtons a few times.
It was great up there, very cozy and comfortable with a little bar.
Like the Lounge Strippers but a little more like what you might see in Thailand.

Mostly the Asian girls working there too.
Karolina, Terah, Karen, Cheska, Eva, Pantera etc.

Ahhh, the good old days.....

That would be awesome to see all of those girls dance at the same club on the same night. Karolina is so sexy, Cheska is such a cutie, and I would love to meet Terah someday. she is hot.

[maddplotter]

nope never been in remingtons

Sad how the memories blur. It must have been the Lounge then.

[Tia Phoenixx]

While looking through some old files yesterday during a housekeeping on my HDD I came across one of my early "To Do Lists" of circa 2002/2003. I post this just info for the heck of it. It may be of no interest to anyone, but if it is, have a chuckle on me. At one time or another, (No, not in any one trip! Geez), I did spend time with 10 of these 15 girls. One of them turned out to be a total waste of good skin.

I found it kind of interesting to compare recent requested donations 2009, with those of 2003. Of course some of the girls are no longer working in Toronto but some are still here. It may be interesting for others to compare the age listed then with the age listed today, 5 or 6 years later.


Also interesting to me was that one girl's donation had risen from $125 in 2003, to $400 when I saw her in 2007, which is just a bit more than the rate of inflation! I had been trying for 4 years but was never able to connect with her until 2007. She was here again last week but I did not check her prices and today, her ad is gone from EROS.

Only yesterday in another thread I had mentioned a strip club and could not remember the name and here it was in this ToDo list.



Victoria 416-927-9724 shemalevictoria@hotmail. downtown 19, 5''7", 105 7" Braz/E.Indian $150 in mon-fri 10-11 $200 out

Tasha 416-913-7820 [email protected] King W, Near the Ex. 23, 120 5'6" 7"

Kelly / Panthera 416 410 4285 brn/hzl 120 lbs. 26 y/o 5'7" 32A-26-32 9 1/2" $300 out

Nora & Barbara (Lucy & Suzy) 416-961-0203 [email protected] Nora (Lucy)-20,36DD 110,5'6", 7"
Barbara (Suzy)-25,38DD,140,5'7", 9" $160 in

Kara-May, Erikah 416-924-2068 27, 5'9", 7" asian $100

Jade Scott 416-316-9616 [email protected] downtown 27, 5'9", 130, 7", $200+ in, $300 out

Kim 416-934-9356 34, 5'7", 145, 8" $100 >150

Candy (now Allessandra) 416-801-9444 23, 5'4", 120, 5" $125

Amber 647-224-8018 slim, blonde

Asia 416-929-1390 27, 5' 9", 6", asian $200

Carmen 416-389-6600 23, 5'9", 7", $140in $150 > 250 out

Diwata 416-830-0233 28, 5'4", 110, 5", asian, in $200

Sandra 905 306 0350 mississauga 23, 5'6", 95, 7", asian in

Aisha 416-913-8292 downtown 24, 5'7",135, 38-26-32C in / out

PALACE PARTY SHEMALE STRIPPERS 416-763-8546 Palace Party up above REMINGTONNIGHTCLUB 379 Yonge (N of Dundas / S of Carlton $30 entry + $20/dance

This is a very interesting finding Toban!

So that list is from 2002-2003:
1. Only 2 girls out of 15 (or 16?) who are still working now.
2. the donation ranging from 120 to 200, with the average of 150-200.

thus:
1. Only 13.33 per cent of girls can survive in 6-7 years in the same city.
Most of them are either retired, having boyfriends (hopefully), finding another jobs, or most probably have to move to other cities to work as an escort

2. Let say the average going rate in Toronto is $200 an hour for some girls, $250 for few, and $300 for very few, not to mention some of us have to work on the street and charge between 100-150 an hour, so at the end...the average rate right now is till about 200 an hour.

So, actually the increase is NOT that high (if there is an increase at all) if we talk about tgirl market in general, realizing that average inflation rate is 6-7% per annum in Canada.

To conclude:
1. Only the best looking girls can survive, or girls who can evolve to broader field (to become internet model or pornstar as well maybe..?).
2. the average life span of a tgirl escort is less than 2-3 years (this is based on my own observation btw)
3. it's highly competitive, volatile market
4. I'm scared.

[Tia Phoenixx]

Oh..i again have to add something:
Between 2002-2009:
1. One tgirl escort was murdered: Tula
2. Some cases of theft and abuse between 2006-2009 alone:
Lorena (theft), Alyssa (if i'm not mistaken: theft and a verbal abuse), not to mention those who do not speak up.
3. At least 3 tgirl escorts live UNDER poverty line. They could not make enough money from escorting, thus having minimum subsidy from the government which is not sufficient to cover all of their expenses.
4. Tranny Alley is no longer as a place for tgirl escorts.
So all these girls are forced to work in "strange" territory and prone to physical abuse or/and harrassment.
5. Other things that i do not aware of

[Tia Phoenixx]

Last but not least:
these abuse can come also from other tgirls escorts.
Bad mouthing, black mailing, threatening are some examples for that. (even physical abuse sometimes occurs)

The main reason i guess is to get rid some of the escorts in order to get bigger niche of clientele for themselves.

[mr-kink]

Jeez, Tia, I think after reading all that I may just stick to being a manwhore....)

But if you are REALLY nice to me, I will show you my lovely legs and ass. You've alreadfy seen a pic of the cock.

[Tia Phoenixx]

Jeez, Tia, I think after reading all that I may just stick to being a manwhore....)

But if you are REALLY nice to me, I will show you my lovely legs and ass. You've alreadfy seen a pic of the cock.

OMG..Mr. Kink..how can i be serious if u r still around...??

[sadeh]

lol

lol, thats so funny,
this will be a hot topic ...

Do you keep that list on the fridge, beside your grocery list?


I went to the Shemale Strippers above Remingtons a few times.
It was great up there, very cozy and comfortable with a little bar.
Like the Lounge Strippers but a little more like what you might see in Thailand.

Mostly the Asian girls working there too.
Karolina, Terah, Karen, Cheska, Eva, Pantera etc.

Ahhh, the good old days.....

[Rockheart]

I went to the one above Remington's only once. I saw Mercedes, Nina, and Mia there. I think Lisa Paradise was there too and she was the only one who took off her bottom. My first lap dance was with Mercedes and I ended the night with a couple from Nina. Ahhh, memories.

nope never been in remingtons

That doesn't sound like the same lineup.
I think The lounge strippers had a downtown location at one time before Goodhandy's. They may have even started out above Remingtons, however the times I went there it was run by the owners of Remingtons and the Play was my understanding.

[toban]

This is a very interesting finding Toban!

So that list is from 2002-2003:
1. Only 2 girls out of 15 (or 16?) who are still working now.

Tia, I can count 7 girls that are still actively working from that list; Victoria, Tasha, Lucy, Kim, Candy (Allessandra), Amber and Carmen (Dita). Were you counting on your fingers and forgot to add the five fingers on the first hand to come up with 2 working?

. . . . . . I think The lounge strippers had a downtown location at one time before Goodhandy's. They may have even started out above Remingtons, however the times I went there it was run by the owners of Remingtons and the Play was my understanding.

Yep, that was original strip club location, up above Remingtons. I seem to recall that at the time the move was made from Yonge St. to Mississauga, that Amanda seemed to be the operator of the " Party Palace" as it was called, and if I remember correctly, she stated either on this Forum or maybe it was in her own newsletter, that the owners of Remingtons had wanted them gone and forced them to close.

It was a while before the new Miss. location was ready and Tasha seemed to be somewhat involved too I believe (as the hostess?), but again perhaps my recollection is flawed.