Can we get real

[shytom]

I know that these forums are centered on the shemale escort profession, but isn't there room here for more then just sex. I really want it to be about you girls loving what you do and making a comfortable living along the way. But with me and you it really isn't all about sex and good times. I'm not in this for kinky sex (at least not primarily), I truly have a thing for trans women. I just think that perhaps there should be more serious discussion as to what that's all about?

I think that's why I maybe left this Forum back a couple of years ago. I through other sites started meeting trans women who were upset with the whole emphasis on shemales/escorts/porn and the issue of being a transgendered woman. Let face it most transgendered woman would have a difficult time turning themselves into sex objects let alone desire to be escorts.

I believe that there is more to why you are a tgirl escort then just the sex and money (not that those are bad things...lol!). I just think I'd love to get into more discussion about other important issues. For example I'm a man that loves transgendered women, yet it's not all about the fact that you're a beautiful woman with a penis. It's a lot more complicated then that, so as an admirer I'd like to discuss that issue with not only other admirers, but with tgirls themselves. I think that our interest in you should be fleshed out. I think there's a lot more about other things then just sex. I know that I'd like to get it out, but wouldn't it be nice if we weren't just talking about the hottest, best deal, most kinky escort. The ladies here are very special to me, I just want to get out why we desire you. I'm sure every man has a different take as every tgirl has.

Maybe I'm beating a dead horse here, but I thought that I'd give it a stab. Perhaps I need to rephrase this a little better, but you have something on your mind and it just comes out the way it does. I'd love to hear responses!

[tslisaparadise]

Nice post,
This is part of the reason I am trying to segregate the escort section from the chat section a little more.

It is however the sex that usually brings people here in the first place.

And I wanted to get rid of the fighting between escorts which was mainly to make each other look bad. And driving away regular discussion and transgender issues.

As I said before, if you are an escort you can't get a way from being considered a sex object to some extent.
However escorts have another side and there is many tgirls that don't escort.
So i'd like to foster more of this.

I respond to good ideas like your posting and suggestions, not demands.

WE WANT A CAM SITE IN HERE GOD DAMN IT AND I DEMAND IT NOW LOL

[Ray]

Cam site is a great idea but total nudity should be a requirement,LOL.

[tslisaparadise]

we want a cam site in here god damn it and i demand it now lol

a few pix from my cam will that help? Lol

[triMOON]

i just cummed a fuckton

[antlerman]

Now I am fairly new into t-gils...and really getting into it.....but I have been in the Hobby for a few years.....I do belong to other forums and one does have a cam/chat feature....all fun and great....except when it came to some of the cam shows.....
You see the competition started who could get the most attention...then it became a little to confrontational.....

So if there ever is a cam feature on here there better be some clear and straight rules of use....with reporting functions for people that abuse it....

[tslisaparadise]

I think the original poster wanted more than just sex.
But nothing wrong with some sexy fun.

awe i am blonde dontcha know lol,so what do ya say can we have a cam site here


Can't u upload cam sessions to the Tube Steak site?

OR what are you saying?

[tslisaparadise]

What exactly are you asking for here?
Can't you just upload cam sessions to the Tube site?
I'll get it working better I swear.


[vbtube]74235989[/vbtube]

How bout video confessions?

nope but thanks for askin lol yes it works great thanks again for helping us out

[shytom]

Why trans women over genetic women

I just wanted to address the question that was posed to me regarding my preference for trans women over genetic women: I wish I had a simple explanation here, first off I love genetic women, I have some wonderful friends who are women and I was married to one before she passed away earlier this year. I also have an 18 year old daughter who I also love dearly.

But, I've always had an attraction to tran women going back to my younger years when I subscribed to a transgender periodical in the 80s. I could relate to their struggles and their interests in being extra feminine.

I think that trans women appreciate what it takes to be a woman, they are upfront about their sexuality, so you know right from the start where they are coming from and they know where you're coming from about sex. To trans women sex isn't a game it's an honest expression of what they want. Even when a genetic woman wants sex it often becomes a cat and mouse game. Us men tend to become fish on a hook just waiting to get reeled in.

I want an intimate relationship to be about many things not just sex. In order to get there we men need to fight through the inane thinking that our little heads persuades us to do. Promise her everything that she wants and you get satisfied. The problem is that most women undersatnd the power they possess with their sexuality. Us men end up paying a very big price for the goods, without uderstanding what it cost us.

One word about trans escorts over women escorts. Most trans women that escort put their heart into their work, while a lot of women escorts are counting their money while they're having sex with you. Which one gives you the more rewarding experience? To me that's an easy answer!

For me to put my finger on just one thing that attracts me to trans women over genetic women would be very difficult. They are women that have a special understanding of men. They don't usually use that against them. They are just as versatile sexually as genetic women. They have bravely challenged convention and are being what they believe makes them happy. Theirs is a relationship that is so close to men, you feel safe when you're with them, they know what we want and they sincerely want to provide it for us! I'm sure that I haven't covered all my reasons but these are the ones that always seem to be at my forefront.

OK Lisa, I'd love to see a cam set up here too!

[Rockheart]

I just wanted to address the question that was posed to me regarding my preference for trans women over genetic women: I wish I had a simple explanation here, first off I love genetic women, I have some wonderful friends who are women and I was married to one before she passed away earlier this year. I also have an 18 year old daughter who I also love dearly.

But, I've always had an attraction to tran women going back to my younger years when I subscribed to a transgender periodical in the 80s. I could relate to their struggles and their interests in being extra feminine.

I think that trans women appreciate what it takes to be a woman, they are upfront about their sexuality, so you know right from the start where they are coming from and they know where you're coming from about sex. To trans women sex isn't a game it's an honest expression of what they want. Even when a genetic woman wants sex it often becomes a cat and mouse game. Us men tend to become fish on a hook just waiting to get reeled in.

I want an intimate relationship to be about many things not just sex. In order to get there we men need to fight through the inane thinking that our little heads persuades us to do. Promise her everything that she wants and you get satisfied. The problem is that most women undersatnd the power they possess with their sexuality. Us men end up paying a very big price for the goods, without uderstanding what it cost us.

One word about trans escorts over women escorts. Most trans women that escort put their heart into their work, while a lot of women escorts are counting their money while they're having sex with you. Which one gives you the more rewarding experience? To me that's an easy answer!

For me to put my finger on just one thing that attracts me to trans women over genetic women would be very difficult. They are women that have a special understanding of men. They don't usually use that against them. They are just as versatile sexually as genetic women. They have bravely challenged convention and are being what they believe makes them happy. Theirs is a relationship that is so close to men, you feel safe when you're with them, they know what we want and they sincerely want to provide it for us! I'm sure that I haven't covered all my reasons but these are the ones that always seem to be at my forefront.

OK Lisa, I'd love to see a cam set up here too!

That is the one thing I appreciate about tgirls, is that they are trying hard to be women and to appear beautiful and feminine.
Too many women now days are trying to be just like men.
I applaud them for wanting to succeed in the same as men but when they lose there feminity and desire to be appealing to men, it is a turn off.

So it is refreshing to see someone is that is happy to be a woman and is striving to be everything a woman can be. To see a woman striving to be everything a man can be is a turn off.

Women's lib and rights are one thing but if we lose the woman in all that what is the point.

[Rose]

A cam chat room type of thing would be cool.

[toban]

Hey! Hey! I'm with you on this.

That is the one thing I appreciate about tgirls, is that they are trying hard to be women and to appear beautiful and feminine.

. . . . . . . . So it is refreshing to see someone is that is happy to be a woman and is striving to be everything a woman can be. To see a woman striving to be everything a man can be is a turn off.

Women's lib and rights are one thing but if we lose the woman in all that what is the point.

Right on Craig. I couldn't have said it better!

[tslisaparadise]

Cam site is a great idea but total nudity should be a requirement,LOL.

lol yer such a perv lol,im hanging out with my friend adrianna in 2 weeks at alanahs party in new york wanna cum? this is her site http://www.foxyangel.com/ alanah asked me to do some work for her but ill be partying all night youll love her shes so sweet

[Rockheart]

lol yer such a perv lol,im hanging out with my friend adrianna in 2 weeks at alanahs party in new york wanna cum? this is her site http://www.foxyangel.com/ alanah asked me to do some work for her but ill be partying all night youll love her shes so sweet

I love Foxy Angel.


Can u get me her autograph?
Maybe a locket of her hair?

[tslisaparadise]

I love Foxy Angel.


Can u get me her autograph?
Maybe a locket of her hair?

lol yayaya lol did you shoot her yet,she told me tonight that she mostly works on her own site,but ill have tons of pix from new york shes a party animal