Love making and sex - retro thread.

[Rantsalot]

Ok all let us see if we can have this thread in the style of a few years ago.
No smileys, no videos, no links JUST STRAIGHT UP TALK AND DISCUSSION.
Hell, I don't care if we have some smarmy people or some blissful souls on this thread provide some heated banter.


Sex: What is sex? Scientifically speaking it's just an act involving intercourse to help in procreation mostly.

Lovemaking: Sometimes referred to as intercourse it is done mostly for pleasure and with a highly emotional attachment.

Agree or disagree? Maybe there is an attachment between the two. Guys when it comes to t girls how strong is the emotional bond. To the girls I ask the same question.


By the way let me say that I know nothing. After all these years I am still learning.

Discuss.

[Rantsalot]

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Of course there's the whole sad statement that I hear from time to time

"A fuck is just a fuck"

[sunshine]

Chasing the dream

Hey - I am an escort so maybe I am not the best person to say anything here but I have never let that stop me before.... Many tgirls are escorts to pay the substantial sums required to transform. But not all tgirls are escorts. There is still room for love. I know it is hard to find a tgirl who is looking for a relationship or emorionnal connection with a lover. But I am sure they are out there in relatively small numbers. I am also sure that some guys are looking for a relationship with a tgirl.

For guys that want sex with no attachments or a "temporary" or "secret" friend of the third gender, there is always a phone call to an escort. That is also a valid strategy.

In terms of what you said about sex being a matter of procreating, I have to disagree. That is certainly Nature's purpose for making sex pleasant but it becomes part of our life and it will always be emotional to some degree even when it is mostly masturbatory.

I don't think it matters whether you are talking about a tgirl or about someone else, sex is part of our life and is one of the ways we express ourselves.

Sunshine

[xploring]

I would say that the emotional bond between myself and girl or t-girl could build to a permanent relationship. But I am a practical person and realize that most of the girls who are in the middle of transition and probably are not interested in someone who finds them attractive at this stage in there life. It is extremely unlikely that I would meet a girl at this point in there life who is looking open to a long-term relationship.

I will say if the worst thing that happens to me because I will not find a t-girl looking for a long-term relationship is I end up spending time with Sunshine, than my life isn?t too bad.

[sunshine]

it depends

I would say that the emotional bond between myself and girl or t-girl could build to a permanent relationship. But I am a practical person and realize that most of the girls who are in the middle of transition and probably are not interested in someone who finds them attractive at this stage in there life. It is extremely unlikely that I would meet a girl at this point in there life who is looking open to a long-term relationship.

I will say if the worst thing that happens to me because I will not find a t-girl looking for a long-term relationship is I end up spending time with Sunshine, than my life isn?t too bad.

That would depend on whether the tgirl wants to become a woman or not. I have no intention of becoming a woman. I like who I am right now. Oh and thanks - I like spending time with you too.

Sunshine

[Wiseone26]

.. But I am a practical person and realize that most of the girls who are in the middle of transition and probably are not interested in someone who finds them attractive at this stage in there life.....

I would disagree here alot of girls who are not escorts that are in the middle of transition would love to have someone to share thier life with. It's just that alot of guys have a stereotypical view of what they want in a trans girl which in turns makes alot of girls not bother. In the end they just end up living alone or were in a relationship prior to transition.

That would depend on whether the tgirl wants to become a woman or not. I have no intention of becoming a woman. I like who I am right now. Oh and thanks - I like spending time with you too.

Sunshine

"..Wants to become a woman or not" , my understanding is that tgirls have always been a woman inside, whether they are preop or postop they are still a woman.

No back to the topic at hand, seeing that I have yet to find a substantial relationship with someone that wants to be in a LTR.

sex - when I hear that word is just that sex, people have sex after hooking up at a club or pay to have sex.
love making - I think is more then just sex, there is more passion, more emotion and more foreplay.

this is an interesting topic, it will be interesting to see peoples responses. And I think every answer will be a valid answer regardless.

[xploring]

I would disagree here alot of girls who are not escorts that are in the middle of transition would love to have someone to share thier life with. It's just that alot of guys have a stereotypical view of what they want in a trans girl which in turns makes alot of girls not bother. In the end they just end up living alone or were in a relationship prior to transition.

Paula I have seen you imply in the past that us guys who are attracted to t-girls are only interested in sex. I would suggest that we are no different than guys who are only attracted to genetic girls. That is to say we are extremely interested in sex. When guys are meeting people we are attracted to it is not far into the relationship that we are thinking how am I going to get laid no matter what the sexes involved. Relationships evolve to other things moving up in priority and that is where sex moves to making love.

So I am going to ask the girls out there. Do you think the guys you get into relationships with are any more interested in sex than guys in relationships with genetic girls? Lets exclude the escort/client relationship as sex is sort of the goal regardless of if goal regardless of t-girl or genetic girls are involved. Although I guess that sort of proves my point that things are the same regardless of if t-girls are involved

[Wiseone26]

Paula I have seen you imply in the past that us guys who are attracted to t-girls are only interested in sex. I would suggest that we are no different than guys who are only attracted to genetic girls. That is to say we are extremely interested in sex. When guys are meeting people we are attracted to it is not far into the relationship that we are thinking how am I going to get laid no matter what the sexes involved. Relationships evolve to other things moving up in priority and that is where sex moves to making love.

So I am going to ask the girls out there. Do you think the guys you get into relationships with are any more interested in sex than guys in relationships with genetic girls? Lets exclude the escort/client relationship as sex is sort of the goal regardless of if goal regardless of t-girl or genetic girls are involved. Although I guess that sort of proves my point that things are the same regardless of if t-girls are involved

I understand that, but this is what it is like on my side of life. I don't want to bash men or the escorts. But I've had guys ask me if I plan to keep my penis and I've said flat out no. I never hear from them again. The topic always comes up pretty much in the first few minutes of an online chat or within the first day of meeting a guy. There is a alot more to a relationship then sex. But most of the guys I've dealt with are just interested in a notch on thier belt.

It's hard to explain this on this forum because this is mainly a sex driven forum. But I stick to my values and opinions. And I don't want to jack Rant's thread anymore on this topic.

[10ptbuck]

I would have to agree that sex is just sex. For a man it is procreation. It's primevil. We have to do it. We need it. We can't go without it. That's why there are "prostitutes", whore houses....etc... I admit that with my wife I do feel some attachment and intamacey(spelling), but is that just because of the amount of time we've spent together?

Great question.