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**oddsodd** · 10-18-2005, 09:04 PM

Re: Spa Night Fun

Originally posted by Shemale Amanda

I would just like to announce, the T-Girls who have been attending the Spa lately, have been requested not to ask for money in exchange for sex.
This activity (money for sex) has been mentioned on other message boards on the net, not just this one. The ladies have been informed that the Spa is not Maitland Street and they are not to line up along the entrance, propositioning men in the locker area, jump on them as they arrive, or request money when they are invited to a room.
If a T-girl approaches someone in this manner, and it is brought to our attention, they will be asked to leave.
I know that Escorts attend this event and they are certainly invited to attend. But since they have been so totally indiscrete to the point that it has been announced publicly, then they screwed it up for themselves. What is discussed in a private room or outside the event is between two consenting adults, but not when it becomes public forum.
So to sum things up, everyone is welcome at the Spa including Escorts (on a night off). But Escorts will not be allowed to ask for money. There are T-Girls who attend this event to have fun and not work. And there are men who attend not wanting to pay for fun. These people should be left alone and not hassled to exchange money for sexual favors.
Please note: Calling it a "donation", money towards "a college fund", helping "to feed my cat" or giving money to buy "a new bra" does not making this exchange legal.
Prostitution is legal in this Country but asking for money in exchange for sex is not (go figure). Don't you think it would be better if it just wasn't discussed? It amazes me that people are just talking about these acts like they are discussing the weather. We need to realize that even freedom of speech has it's limits. I mean would you announce on a message board that you just robbed a Brinks truck at gun point? I think not!
Therefore please come by the Spa and have a good time. Men looking for Escorts and Escorts looking for men are still welcome of course. But keep in mind the rules of this event and remember what the Federal laws are.
Like I have said before on this board, we do not want to lose our events because people do not know how to be discrete and within the legal boundaries.
I hope to see you all there this evening or on a Tuesday in the near future.

Amanda
http://www.ladyplus.com

Do t-girls hang out on maitlan for tricks.....

**smile004** · 10-18-2005, 10:00 PM

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Yikes!!! ODDSODD,

Either that was a funny post

.........or you really missed the point of Amandas post.

Everyone should do Amanda a favour and pass here words along to others in their posts.
Amanda is truly the "Qeen Shemale Bee"
Trust me i have been into the TG scene for many years,i have seen her take the Shemale scene by the balls(sort of Speak).Amanda has always tried to come up with venues for us guys to meet theses ladies we love to be with.Without her work we would be shit out of luck to pursue our interests the way we do.
I know many of you are aware of what she has accomplished for us,but for the others this note of info is for you.
Cheers to you Amanda

**katt** · 10-18-2005, 11:40 PM

Re: Spa Night Fun

unfortunately, there were a couple of girls "working" there tonight. maybe amanda should tell the girls as they arrive...

**StephenS** · 10-19-2005, 03:29 PM

Re: Spa Night Fun

Everyone - Read the unsaid! Then read what is said! If you get the drift.

Steve

**Money_g** · 10-19-2005, 07:01 PM

Re: Spa Night Fun

Well done Amanda! She totally fucking rocks! Honestly.....I'ts about time, the spa night was supposed to be a meet n greet from the beginning....not a whore house!

**curious** · 10-19-2005, 08:11 PM

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hi yu dont look cheap you get what yu ask for just be descrete and everybod enjoys chow the curious one

**oddsodd** · 10-19-2005, 09:58 PM

Re: Spa Night Fun

Yes, I was kidding.

**dirty_old_man** · 10-20-2005, 01:45 AM

Re: Spa Night Fun

Hello - I am a big fan of Amanda's website and events, and was just informed about this message board. After spending the past couple hours reading all of the fascinating information, I feel I have to speak my mind on this particular post about the recent "changes" at the T-Girl Spa due to the indiscretion of girls.

What is shocking me is just how lacking in intelligence some of you are. Please learn to read between the lines, and understand that Amanda is a promoter, who has been providing us men with places to meet ladies for years, and obviously she cannot say blatantly what is going on, so she must protect her own rear-end (and it is indeed a nice rear end) which is why I think she has been making these recent "changes" in rules.

Money_g, your comment is a perfect example of someone missing the point - you are not going to ever find a place where beautiful T-girls are running around giving head to everyone for free. Sorry, it will not happen. You seem to think that Amanda has decided to kick out all working girls, when if you read between the lines, she is just trying to protect herself and all of us who are CONSENTING ADULTS trying to have fun.

I must disclose some personal details - I am 65 years young, I love shemales (particularly the surgically altered ones, but I have been known to appreciate the odd cross-dresser too, provided she is put together well), and Most Importantly, I like to pay for sex.

The spa has been a great place for me to visit, because I can discreetly pay girls for sex. I also have enjoyed the voyeuristic atmosphere of the one porno room, gosh those cross-dressers certainly are kinky (I'm talking full on orgies, people! No money exchanged!) So yes, guys, there indeed are ladies who are available for fun for free (more cross dressers than shemales), but I personally enjoy paying, so who is anyone to judge me?

I hope Amanda will not be upset at me writing this, but I feel the people who are posting on this board are mis-reading and misunderstanding Amanda's "coded" messages.

Here are some points, and I know they might be controversial, but I feel the internet is one of those places where honesty can exist, particularly when we can hide behind our anonymous personas.

FACT 1. Most T-Girls are escorts, prostitutes, whores, whatever you want to call it. At least many more of them are than genetic girls or boys. So guys who are into T-girls, please do not kid yourself and think you are going to visit an event, whether it be a club night or spa night or meeting a girl on the street, and not pay. As someone who was married for 30 years, trust me, there is always a price to pay with ladies anyways, so get used to it, even if you are young and handsome men.

FACT 2. When Amanda describes the laws about solicitation, she is making a necessary point, to protect the event. She has instructed the ladies that they must not ask for money, BECAUSE it was getting out of hand. I certainly experienced some indiscreet ladies soliciting people in the hallways in the past, and it was just distasteful, because they were doing it out loud, and everyone could hear.

But what I think Amanda is saying is that those of us who LIKE to pay should MAKE IT OBVIOUS. I can think of many simple ways to meet up with a lady without discussing money. How about "Would you like to come to my room and talk?" and then when we get into my room, I open my wallet and lay out a hundred or so bucks on the table, and wink at the girl. Nothing has been discussed. At least then, if she knows that I am open to paying, she can quietly discuss further. I don't think anyone is going to be kicked out if they know that they are dealing with someone who likes to pay. I think some of the ladies are so worried that they are going to be complained about for asking money, that they are going to stop coming to the spa.
Or how about if you are someone who is NOT looking to pay, you use your brains, and quit being delusional, and realize that if you look at a beautiful lady who you also is a known escort, that you are probably not going to be having sex for free with her. Don't try to get her to ask you for money, so you can make a scene and rock the boat and complain.

THE MAIN REASON I AM WRITING THIS POST IS because I was at the spa the other evening, and I am concerned that Amanda's message is being lost, because she simply cannot say what she probably is thinking out loud, she can only speak in code.

GUYS - Listen to me, and listen to me hard. There ARE ladies who go to the spa who want to be paid for their time. Make it easy for them, and do not try to weasel free sex out of them. If you go into a room with a lady and she pauses, and waits, and then leaves, you can assume that she was following the rules and not asking for money, and since you didn't offer, she is not interested.

If you are looking for free sex or even just an atmosphere where you can meet other T-girl lovers, or even be voyeurs watching beautiful shemales and T-girls wander around in a non-threatening environment, then come to the spa - there are definitely times when T-girls have fun, for free, but you should leave it up to them. Don't take the attitude that "katt" took when he posted "unfortunately there were a couple girls working" - katt, you are missing the point, if NO working girls attend the spa, then sorry, there will be no spa. (See FACT 1 above for reference). (And for those who like free sex, do visit the orgy room, as I have said. I have seen Tasha, a hot shemale, surrounded by men, and not being paid, and I have also once had the good fortune of seeing Natasha get fucked up the ass in the orgy room, possibly not being paid.)

To keep an event like this going, we have to all respect reality. I understand why some people are reading this board, and reading Amanda's post, and are thinking "Oh, great, there is a place I can go where no one will charge me". But unfortunately, the world is not that way.

As someone who has been going to the Lounge since before it was called the Lounge, back in the days when cover was $40, and then Remington's, mainly when Amanda was managing it, and someone who has been attending the spa nights off and on since they first started last year, please respect that I know what I am talking about.

NOTE - these are my own interpretations, Amanda has nothing to do with this, and in fact, I do not know Amanda well personally, I just admire her from afar and say hello. Amanda, if I am wrong about anything, just correct me, but I am sure you will just keep quiet because you are clever and do not want to implicate yourself in anything illegal.

(Apologies for my rambling, I am literate and educated, but writing was never my forte, but you have to forgive me, I AM 65 after all..... senility is likely approaching, just kidding).

Since I do attend Amanda's events at least once a week, and also visit Remington's from time to time, hoping that things have changed for the better (sorry guys, they have not, but I will post elsewhere about this), I think you can expect to see me on the board more often, now that I know it exists.

I am retired, and have a lot of time on my hands, and would like to share my experiences with all of you great people!!!

For now, I am signing off, the Dirty Old Man.

**hyadude2003** · 10-20-2005, 08:23 AM

Re: Spa Night Fun

Originally posted by dirty_old_man

Hello - I am a big fan of Amanda's website and events, and was just informed about this message board. After spending the past couple hours reading all of the fascinating information, I feel I have to speak my mind on this particular post about the recent "changes" at the T-Girl Spa due to the indiscretion of girls.

What is shocking me is just how lacking in intelligence some of you are. Please learn to read between the lines, and understand that Amanda is a promoter, who has been providing us men with places to meet ladies for years, and obviously she cannot say blatantly what is going on, so she must protect her own rear-end (and it is indeed a nice rear end) which is why I think she has been making these recent "changes" in rules.

Money_g, your comment is a perfect example of someone missing the point - you are not going to ever find a place where beautiful T-girls are running around giving head to everyone for free. Sorry, it will not happen. You seem to think that Amanda has decided to kick out all working girls, when if you read between the lines, she is just trying to protect herself and all of us who are CONSENTING ADULTS trying to have fun.

I must disclose some personal details - I am 65 years young, I love shemales (particularly the surgically altered ones, but I have been known to appreciate the odd cross-dresser too, provided she is put together well), and Most Importantly, I like to pay for sex.

The spa has been a great place for me to visit, because I can discreetly pay girls for sex. I also have enjoyed the voyeuristic atmosphere of the one porno room, gosh those cross-dressers certainly are kinky (I'm talking full on orgies, people! No money exchanged!) So yes, guys, there indeed are ladies who are available for fun for free (more cross dressers than shemales), but I personally enjoy paying, so who is anyone to judge me?

I hope Amanda will not be upset at me writing this, but I feel the people who are posting on this board are mis-reading and misunderstanding Amanda's "coded" messages.

Here are some points, and I know they might be controversial, but I feel the internet is one of those places where honesty can exist, particularly when we can hide behind our anonymous personas.

FACT 1. Most T-Girls are escorts, prostitutes, whores, whatever you want to call it. At least many more of them are than genetic girls or boys. So guys who are into T-girls, please do not kid yourself and think you are going to visit an event, whether it be a club night or spa night or meeting a girl on the street, and not pay. As someone who was married for 30 years, trust me, there is always a price to pay with ladies anyways, so get used to it, even if you are young and handsome men.

FACT 2. When Amanda describes the laws about solicitation, she is making a necessary point, to protect the event. She has instructed the ladies that they must not ask for money, BECAUSE it was getting out of hand. I certainly experienced some indiscreet ladies soliciting people in the hallways in the past, and it was just distasteful, because they were doing it out loud, and everyone could hear.

But what I think Amanda is saying is that those of us who LIKE to pay should MAKE IT OBVIOUS. I can think of many simple ways to meet up with a lady without discussing money. How about "Would you like to come to my room and talk?" and then when we get into my room, I open my wallet and lay out a hundred or so bucks on the table, and wink at the girl. Nothing has been discussed. At least then, if she knows that I am open to paying, she can quietly discuss further. I don't think anyone is going to be kicked out if they know that they are dealing with someone who likes to pay. I think some of the ladies are so worried that they are going to be complained about for asking money, that they are going to stop coming to the spa.
Or how about if you are someone who is NOT looking to pay, you use your brains, and quit being delusional, and realize that if you look at a beautiful lady who you also is a known escort, that you are probably not going to be having sex for free with her. Don't try to get her to ask you for money, so you can make a scene and rock the boat and complain.

THE MAIN REASON I AM WRITING THIS POST IS because I was at the spa the other evening, and I am concerned that Amanda's message is being lost, because she simply cannot say what she probably is thinking out loud, she can only speak in code.

GUYS - Listen to me, and listen to me hard. There ARE ladies who go to the spa who want to be paid for their time. Make it easy for them, and do not try to weasel free sex out of them. If you go into a room with a lady and she pauses, and waits, and then leaves, you can assume that she was following the rules and not asking for money, and since you didn't offer, she is not interested.

If you are looking for free sex or even just an atmosphere where you can meet other T-girl lovers, or even be voyeurs watching beautiful shemales and T-girls wander around in a non-threatening environment, then come to the spa - there are definitely times when T-girls have fun, for free, but you should leave it up to them. Don't take the attitude that "katt" took when he posted "unfortunately there were a couple girls working" - katt, you are missing the point, if NO working girls attend the spa, then sorry, there will be no spa. (See FACT 1 above for reference). (And for those who like free sex, do visit the orgy room, as I have said. I have seen Tasha, a hot shemale, surrounded by men, and not being paid, and I have also once had the good fortune of seeing Natasha get fucked up the ass in the orgy room, possibly not being paid.)

To keep an event like this going, we have to all respect reality. I understand why some people are reading this board, and reading Amanda's post, and are thinking "Oh, great, there is a place I can go where no one will charge me". But unfortunately, the world is not that way.

As someone who has been going to the Lounge since before it was called the Lounge, back in the days when cover was $40, and then Remington's, when Amanda was managing it, before they stole the night from her and started their current mission of running it into the ground, and someone who has been attending the spa nights off and on since they first started last year, please respect that I know what I am talking about.

NOTE - these are my own interpretations, Amanda has nothing to do with this, and in fact, I do not know Amanda well personally, I just admire her from afar and say hello. Amanda, if I am wrong about anything, just correct me, but I am sure you will just keep quiet because you are clever and do not want to implicate yourself in anything illegal.

(Apologies for my rambling, I am literate and educated, but writing was never my forte, but you have to forgive me, I AM 65 after all..... senility is likely approaching, just kidding).

Since I do attend Amanda's events at least once a week, and also visit Remington's from time to time, hoping that things have changed for the better (sorry guys, they have not, but I will post elsewhere about this), I think you can expect to see me on the board more often, now that I know it exists.

I am retired, and have a lot of time on my hands, and would like to share my experiences with all of you great people!!!

For now, I am signing off, the Dirty Old Man.

very well stated Dirty 'ol man....for someone who says that writing is not their "forte", I enjoyed your post a lot - just my $0.02...

**Shemale Amanda** · 10-20-2005, 11:01 AM

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Dirty Old Man:
I am speechless, a bit confused a little curious but speechless.
You certainly have done your homework.
Amanda

**etrigan** · 10-22-2005, 12:00 AM

Re: Spa Night Fun

Well put, oh rambling one!

**Big-V** · 10-25-2005, 02:50 AM

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The law in Canada states prostitution is legal, but exchanging money for sex isn't. It's really a catch 22 situation where one event can't proceed without the other. To save yourself some heartache, don't participate in a proposition for sex in exhange for money openly, as this is illegal in Canada. Humans have evolved a lot of non-verbal cues to communicate, so a simple nod or wink to suggest "I'll pay you for your services" will suffice. Now I don't want to scare anyone but if the Metro Vice Squad were to "discretely" pay a visit to a Spa night, they would really have no case to suggest any illegal action if people followed the rules. Keep this in mind when you attend the Spa nights.

**JR24** · 10-29-2005, 11:44 AM

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The more I read about these Spa Nights, the more confused I get. I can be quite shy, so I have a feeling I would end up sitting in in a corner by myself because I don't know the secret handshake or codewords.

**ShelbyWylde** · 10-29-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by JR24

The more I read about these Spa Nights, the more confused I get. I can be quite shy, so I have a feeling I would end up sitting in in a corner by myself because I don't know the secret handshake or codewords.

Don't feel bad, I feel the same and I'm TS lmao
Now was that one shake, flip the thumb and a wink,
or two shakes, scratch my ass and lick my lips.

Shelby

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