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Okay as a long time lurker and the first to proclaim to be of the Palace Guard I have to step in and voice my opinion. Why should any one treat these girls less than what they are LADIES!!!! A man that talks down to one of these special people is talking down to women of all kinds. A LADY is a state of mind and not a physical abortion to be scorned at. TREAT a lady like a lady and she will respond as such. Speak to her as a slut or a an underling and that is what you will see coming back at you. If a man does not have the common decency to treat one as an equal it says a lot about how he views himself. Respect is not only earned it is given and anyone who has taken on the arduous task of being a woman in this day and age deserves respect from the onset. Now you guys who call yourself men and gentlemen start acting like it and give the respect due to one who if not a lady physically is certainly a lady mentally. Stand up and be a man and protect the fairer sex! Stop being assholes and thinking with your dicks!!!!
I think what needs to be done is a classifcation for the term "Tgirl". Other terms such as Shemale, TS, Tranny and Ladyboy all get tossed around losley. (personally, I prefer TS).
Im really not here to try and knock anybody for what they do. I'm sure you're all very nice people! But what I would like to point out, or at least, bring up, is that in order to be a "tgirl" what does it take? Hair extentions? Makeup? Fake breast? To me, and maybe I'm crazy, but, a ts should be 150% dedicated to being a women. This might not mean that you have met any of the above mentioned criteria, but it's that you live, breath, eat, and s*#t like a women and then some.
Some guys here critisze girls for looks/behavour and in return are belittle here for it. I feel that some of those guys might have a point. Have you ever gone to see a ts and had her belch louder then you can? I have, and boy oh boy, what a turn off! Have you ever gone to a ts's house and it was just absolutly filthy? I have too, and let me tell you something. Must girls, live in a clean house, doesn't matter how much money you have, what end of town you live on or whatever. I belive you can keep a tidy place, epessially if you know that you're having a visitor, a paying one or not.
I think what I'm trying to get at here is that it takes alot more then $300 hair extentions to make you a girl. I know that photoshop can help alot too but in the long run, you're just hurting yourself. I think the real ts girls should have a code of ethics amongst each other, and only allow certain girls to be called ts. I know that alot of you girls put forth all this effort and then some, but I feel that a few bad apples are going to ruin your bunch. I'm not naming names as I have a feeling some girls here would know who I'm talking about.
Again, let me say that this has NOTHING to do with how pretty a girl is or not, but how they carry themselfs in public and in the beroom, or just in simple coversation.
I'm very sorry for the bad spelling. Thanks for your time here.
Okay guys and gals lets clear some things up here.........
The reason that I am here and I think a lot of others are as well, is that we enjoy the visual and physical pleasures of a group of people who are not considered to be in the norm of modern society. Using that premise, we who seek them out are also outside the norm. SO what makes any of us better than the other?
Just because an individual did not come up to your expectations or standards is no reason to put them down. Who among us is perfect? Certainly not me. I am short and fat and old yet in this hidden enviornment of the internet I can be whom ever I want for it is my world and not the one I am forced to exist in every day.
If you have a bitch about the cleanliness of an escorts apartment why don't you mention it to them at the time have you ever thought that it might just have been one hell of a day for them? If you go to an escorts apartment and are met at the door by a guy in a shaggy dressing gown wearing a bad Cher wig you don't have to go in or stay, you can leave at any time. It is your choice! Disappointments are a part of life and one thing I found during my little trip through is sometimes its best to make the best of a bad or dissapointing situation. You never know, that old dressing gown and bad wig may hide a great personality and maybe a hidden talent. What ever, it is your decision and your money, spend it as you want.
As for money, the girls charge what they are worth and what the market will take. Good for them! I just wish that their prices were lower as I can not afford the services of such delightful ladies as Shelby and Samantha. Right now the only thing in my price range is the crack whore on the corner who'll blow ya for a cigarette LOL.
And Shelby, sweetheart, why not start a list of the good customers and if there is a bad one limit your comments to simple "watch this one" or something to that affect. Positive reinforcement is positive advertising.
Anyways, I've bitched enough I just want to say that I enjoy everyones comments and participation here even the negative ones............Love ya all..........
I dont' normally like to step in here but... so if a genetic girl has a pussy and can belch lounder than my guy friends... what does that make her? I have plenty of genetic gf's and had plenty of girl roommates that were pigs, however, although they weren't Betty Crocker's I never realized they weren't girls. Can you help me define please.... are they men with genetic pussy's? I'm confused.
I think we spend too much time trying to wrap heads around titles to try to make ourselves feel comfortable about ourselves. Before worrying too much about trying to figure out what someone else is, maybe we should try to figure out who we are. Anyone who's ready anything about 'trans' outside of this forum knows there isn't a clear cut, black and white answer to what is considered TS... and from a true definition I've never seen it boiled down to formula's about make up , boobs and hair... EVER.
I will say though, that guys who only look at trans girls for sex, at it's simplest form, would boil it down to "If she's fuckable... and I'm a trans lover then she's trans. If I don't find her fuckable, then she's just a guy with tits and an ugly face who burps too loudly." Very sad criteria to go by and a good point was made earlier, who's perfect to start passing judgement on others anyway.
If someone isn't your cup of tea.. then leave. So simple instead of these endless and unimportant conversations. If you aren't sure where a girl is surgically and that is important to you just ask her or here at the forum before you head over to her place before you are disappointed. If you want to ensure her manners are up to your standard and you are looking for more than just sex see if you can talk to them a bit first to get a feel or again ... this is what the forum is for. And if hygiene and cleanliness is important to you, then read the posts in here see what their place was like. Lastly, if how their apartment is really important to you, tell them up front. Why is it so easy to say you'd like a girl to stick her fat XXXX in your mouth or do whatever other physical act that most guys would find shy to ask for but it's hard to say you'd like to make sure the place is clean or ask these other simple questions? So confusing...
And I'm not being bitchy, but I think I've read enough posts to laughingly summarize much of what has been written in many other posts (not by all I might add) and have pointed out how silly some of the remarks can be.
I have to point out the obvious when the same can is kicked around over and over and over and over again without any sensible resolution.
Tgirls are like girls.(and boys for that matter) we aren't all the same personally, physically and mentally. Please stop trying to put us all in one of only a few 'buckets' or 'boxes'
Thanks... xox
Madison
Originally posted by [K
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I think what needs to be done is a classifcation for the term "Tgirl". Other terms such as Shemale, TS, Tranny and Ladyboy all get tossed around losley. (personally, I prefer TS).
Im really not here to try and knock anybody for what they do. I'm sure you're all very nice people! But what I would like to point out, or at least, bring up, is that in order to be a "tgirl" what does it take? Hair extentions? Makeup? Fake breast? To me, and maybe I'm crazy, but, a ts should be 150% dedicated to being a women. This might not mean that you have met any of the above mentioned criteria, but it's that you live, breath, eat, and s*#t like a women and then some.
Some guys here critisze girls for looks/behavour and in return are belittle here for it. I feel that some of those guys might have a point. Have you ever gone to see a ts and had her belch louder then you can? I have, and boy oh boy, what a turn off! Have you ever gone to a ts's house and it was just absolutly filthy? I have too, and let me tell you something. Must girls, live in a clean house, doesn't matter how much money you have, what end of town you live on or whatever. I belive you can keep a tidy place, epessially if you know that you're having a visitor, a paying one or not.
I think what I'm trying to get at here is that it takes alot more then $300 hair extentions to make you a girl. I know that photoshop can help alot too but in the long run, you're just hurting yourself. I think the real ts girls should have a code of ethics amongst each other, and only allow certain girls to be called ts. I know that alot of you girls put forth all this effort and then some, but I feel that a few bad apples are going to ruin your bunch. I'm not naming names as I have a feeling some girls here would know who I'm talking about.
Again, let me say that this has NOTHING to do with how pretty a girl is or not, but how they carry themselfs in public and in the beroom, or just in simple coversation.
I'm very sorry for the bad spelling. Thanks for your time here.
This is why I decieded to voice myself here. I didn't come here to argue with anyone, I came to get an undertanding, some awnsers and maybe a resulotion. Nothing I siad was made as a statement, but was more stated as a question.
So if I understand your point of view, then what you're saying is that truely being a Tgirl is a state of mind? I would have thought if was more like a way of life. As a ts you are born male. I've talked with plenty of girls over time and some have told me that they knew they were girls when they were as young as 5 or 6 years old. So for these girls, I would say it's a way of life. The few that I have talked to that knew the were "different" so young all behave like a women should. And when I say that, I don't mean to sound ignorant, I just mean that even with gg's, there is an unwriten code of conduct. Yes, if a girl belches in front of somebody they just met, they are considered a pig. I'm sorry, but that is the truth. Yes, if you bring someone into your house for the first time, and you have food and garbage laying around the house, then you are going to be viewed as sloppy.
I'm completley leaving sex, escorting and anything else relating to profit out of the picture (that can be saved for another time/thread). There are guys out there that just want to date a ts, guys who would never even think to spend money on sex from anybody, gender or ts. Theres a different way of going about meeting ts's because it's very much become a business. A very well run and well organized one at that. And beliove it or not, there are tgirls out there who want bf's. Guys who they didn't meet through a hook up. Somebody who thinks they are pretty, someone who wants to take them out on a few dates before they try to get in their pants. Someone who is going to treat them like a girl.
I understand that there are areas here set up to discuss how "fuckable" a girl is and so on.
Thats just fine and dandy for the guys who do pay for companionship but, I'm afraid that system is, well, flawed. What stops a girl from creating a new user/account and giving herslef a review? Or just getting a friend to do a review for them and vise versa? What I'm trying to say, is that amongst yourselfs, you should have your own code of conduct. Like I said in my first post, this has NOTHING to do with looks.
I am somebody who is really in disbelief I suppose.
Do you people have any idea why this thread was even started !
wtf are you all talking about.
You might want to read this thread from the begining
This is so typical how things get turned around.
Shelby
I totally agree with Shelby. This thread has gone a long way from its original purpose and message.
Is there any point to this "discussion"? Nothing is entirely a or b, black or white, male or female. There are always intermediate shades. And in any case, the various terms ranging from occasional cross-dresser to post-op are all somewhat arbitrary.
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