Aww You Guys Are So Sweet <3 ...

[Meagan Nutwood]

is it only me or for the last couples month i get lots of clients who make app ... Arive to my place /hotel and then said ..

Oh i forgot to ask u how much is it...?? And then they say of i have only 80-100$ ...

And when i answer sorry thats not my minimum rates

they just stay there ( look like they think i will still accpete to see them )

lol ?!?!?

lol girl! I thought i was the only one!! Ridiculous!!

[Meagan Nutwood]

LOL. Putting your foot in your mouth must be a hobby for you? Men actually try to negotiate rates. GASP. Shocker. If you don't like it, just change jobs. No one is forcing you to escort. Or....STOP MOANING AND WHINING!!

I find it so funny that your name is Money B yet you're sitting here picking up for the cheap asses. No they don't not try to negotiate... They try to rip us off & I assume you're one of them since your nerves seem so struck. I don't understand where you got the idea that I should change jobs just because it has its ups and downs like every other fucking job , lol. You're clearly the one that needs to stop...

[danilover]

Yes, there are parts of this job like any other job that sucks...(no pun intended..lol) But you just have to deal with it and move on. Personally, I think a girl should be able to charge what she wants. It is her freewill and really not my place to try to tell her otherwise. But it is upsetting at times.

But it is not just about the money. It is also the service that is damaged. With cheaper rates comes cheaper girls with little to no self respect. This means they will not offer the same level of service as I will. That is all well and good for guys who play the game & understand this fact. But let us say your a first timer. You call so and so and she is $60 and saying everything she can to get you in the door to be client # 20 of the day. Then you call me and I am double the price and am acting more business like with my tone and how I am giving you information. Not knowing the difference a first timer is going to pick her. Then once he gets there and has an awful time, it will be along time before he goes back or if he does he will just think we are all the same. Thus effecting more then just that 1 day & that 1 client.

This is way most girls are this upset because we are being put on the same level and treated the same as some drug addict street walker. Once the clients have been mistreated it changes how they view and treat us. Then they feel like it is ok to call us and after we show them respect by saying we charge lets say $150. They say to us. ?I will give you $50 and I want BBBJ? Getting that call 20-30 times a day can be upsetting. What makes it worse is knowing that you might have more respect and will not accept that rate but the next girl he calls will.

So...maybe you guys can look at it from that point of view rather then just seeing the girls bitch and act ungrateful. I get it, we get $100 an hour tax free and you have to work 8 hours to come close to what we make. So in your minds what right do we have to bitch. We have it pretty good. On some levels your right. But no matter how much someone earns, they will also have issues they like to vent about. Were all human!

But Girls, enough fucking bitching about this subject. It has been said over and over again and talked about to death. Bitching will not change it and in the end all guys who read this crap is going to see is that your ungrateful and bitchie! That is not sexy nor what they wish to pay there hard earned money for....that will hurt you more then some undercutting cunt@!

Ok...there..I feel much better!
Tasha
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Ok here is my two cents...I also work in the freelance world where I get calls for work by different clients and every time I have to negotiate my rate, I have a set standard rate that i try to stick to, but some jobs if i don't bend a little bit here or there (it can range from $50 less to $250 less) I don't get the job at all, so I either accept the lower rate or I don't make any money because they will hire someone else, sometimes someone with less experience or someone with just as much, so i have to decide do I want to make money or do I want to sit at home and hope someone else calls and offers me the money I think I deserve.

We all have to keep in mind that as we get older there is always someone younger and more eager coming up right behind us, you were that person yourself or are now. So keep in mind that sooner or later you are going to be older and get less calls for your service and in order to survive have to accept the lower rate than perhaps you were used to. But that is the cycle of life

It is up to each individual.

I also need certain tools to perform my job, which cost $1000's of dollars, it is something I have to invest in and gradually earn the money that will pay off the money put into it, after that the money I earn from my tools is mine. So I guess it's like a tgirl, does she invest in getting breasts, so she can charge more for her service and eventually pay that off so from a certain point the money is hers. Or does she charge a lower rate until she can save money to afford the surgeries and then from there up her rate.

Also, economic times dictate money flow, everyone works hard for their money, clients and tgirls. But perhaps someone who enjoys the company of a tgirl had his pay cut, but would still like to see a girl, so maybe he tries to negotiate a rate he can afford to see a girl and still be able to eat, make sense?

We all like to bitch and complain, but nobody likes a whiner and sooner or later people distance themselves from that person. If I bitched and whined to my clients that they don't pay me enough the phone would go silent and then I wouldn't be able to spend some money on a tgirl and we'd all end up working at McDonalds...yikes. So in the words of the Beatles, All You Need Is Love...and money

[Tasha Jones RIP]

Tasha,

You said $100 tax free. You just rocked my world on that comment. Your amazing I just want you to know that. I haven't driven a 4x4 since.

Haha...shhh no one was to know what a messy drunk I was...but glad I was cause had fun with you..*wink*

[Tasha Jones RIP]

This was very well said and really told the story from the guys point of view! Thank u...

[bleh123]

I guess I'm just from a different school of thought where hooking up with an escort is a novelty, something worth spending the extra money on for quality. Huge turn off hearing about people trying to haggle down from 150 bucks, which to me seems dirt cheap as it is. Maybe it's just me but letting somebody stick their penis in you is a pretty intimate and personal matter even if it's an occupation. Are these the usual clients you girls are seeing? I hate to think these scum bags are your bread and butter. As for me I go down to NYC on business 5-6 times a year and actually go out of my way to make appointments with girls charging firm $500+ rates to avoid that kind of scene. Silly maybe, but I like thinking that I'm 'sharing' a girl with other clean, fairly legit clients. Kind of like shitting on an ivory throne at the plaza vs a port-a-potty at the state fair. Clean, quality sp's definitely do not deserve to deal with that shit. Haggling is for the flea market or with a junkie street walker you picked up in the wrong end of town, not for dealing with a professional SP.

[Tia Phoenixx]

I love everything you just said Tia

cool

now..please shake hand with Ana..we all are big family after all

[tommygun]

I think a lot of people are forgetting that what they are doing is running a business. And from the looks of it most have businesses that are destined to fail.

Price negotiation is a reality of most businesses these days. How many businesses don't negotiate price or have sales, specials, or package deals? Very few. Actually I can't think of any off the top of my head. It's because most business owners have found it is very difficult to be competitive in the business world without these things. If you want to insult people on a message board that anyone can read, because they wish to negotiate price, you might want to think about the people who stopped considering your services because of what you said.

What are you doing to make yourself competitive with the person charging $60? Are you working hard to give the clients you do have an unforgettable experience which will inevitably draw them back? Or are you doing the bare minimum and then complaining when you lose business to them? If a guy goes back to the individual who produces a lousy service for $60, instead of coming back to you, that may very well suggest the quality of your own service by comparison. If there is one thing I've learned for certain in this life it's that people will pay more for quality. That is why my workshop is filled with tools from Ridgid, Dewalt and Porter Cable not Black and Decker, Jobmate and Mastercraft.

I've seen many salespeople fired for far less attitude that I see many escorts dishing out. Rule #1 of business, people don't buy from you because you have the best prices or best service. They buy from you because they like you. Probably 95-99% of business falls into this category. It's amazing how many escorts here care very little about the image they put off. The petty childish fighting that goes on here, to the attitude over things that are really very small issues. I wonder how much potential business has been lost due to what men read on these forums. If you were my employee, you'd be out the door before the client would be.

If you don't like negotiating then clearly spell out your prices on your SC.com webpage and respectfull state that you do not negotiate prices. I see less than a handful of people doing this. Many don't even list prices and yet are somehow surprised that poeple want to haggle price. What rock do you live under?

I've seen and read many complaining that they've lost a lot of business since Craigslist stopped allowing them to advertise. Only those with poor business sense did this affect to a large degree. When you had your last client, what did you do to ensure that he would come back again? Most businesses stay alive because of repeat business. I do business with plenty of people who would give me the shirt off their backs because I am a loyal customer. I pay my mechanic to do jobs that I can easily do in my garage. I have a little Italian guy do repairs on my electronics when it'd probably be easier, cheaper and faster to take it to a big store like Future Shop. How many clients do you have who make this effort for you?

Only in the escort business have I ever seen the service provider and their needs come before the client. It's ok to have a few requirements of those you service, but at the end of the day it is about the client, not you.

Many of you have chosen the life of an escort, which is not an easy living. The tax-free money is nice for a few years but the career is a short one. I will be making more money, than I am now, when I am 40, 50 and 60. No escort will ever be able to say that. How many escorts are paying into RRSP's, their pensions, long term savings accounts? How many own their own homes, and don't rent? How many of you are going to school for something? At 30 years old, making $95k a year I still take courses and learn whatever I can. Many live day-to-day. You have chosen a very difficult lifestyle for yourself. Stop sabotaging yourself because of a poor business sense and a self-serving attitude.

It's your life and your career. Think of your future and do what is in your best interest.

[capitus]

Don't go to the show if you can't pay the admission. It's real simple. Same as the rules for any other service.



Tasha - awesome avatar

[nacho]

Wow great thread, I just found it. Look guys you get what you pay for, if you want cheap you can get it but she might have a beard. Lol. With that said some girls do charge too much; the service has to match the price. I?ll gladly pay the big bucks if I have a wonderful experience. That has to be a true GFE.
Now Meagan, I?m not happy with you. You keep canceling your trips to Vancouver. How are my fantasies going to come true if you keep playn with my heart like that?
Why do girls shy away from Vancouver I figured this place would be a Mecca

[Locomotion]

Wow great thread, I just found it. Look guys you get what you pay for, if you want cheap you can get it but she might have a beard. Lol. With that said some girls do charge too much; the service has to match the price. I?ll gladly pay the big bucks if I have a wonderful experience. That has to be a true GFE.
Now Meagan, I?m not happy with you. You keep canceling your trips to Vancouver. How are my fantasies going to come true if you keep playn with my heart like that?
Why do girls shy away from Vancouver I figured this place would be a Mecca

... or when they DO make it to your city, they don't answer the damn phone. Think I said that in another thread ...