Ladies, don't you think discrimination should be banned?

[Guest]

I feel like i had to add this little entry, here, to explain that this thread is not only about post # 1.
Please, read the whole thread and watch all the clips i put into this thread. Otherwise you might make a comment that is uninformed of what this topic is really about.
Thanks.

Hi,

Look what they teach kids these days, about trans people. It really makes me angry when i see crap like this.

They have to remove negative references about gays from rock songs these days.

The trans community should gang up on Hollywood about how Hollywood represents trans people.

Look at the clip and see who pops out of the cake and what takes place there after.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45jv8uhZwo&feature=fvwrel

It's degrading us.

Agreed?

Babe,
xoxo

[chantel]

much ado about nothing

[Toronto]

well at least he is king right? even after he shows his more feminine side

[dom r]

well at least he is king right? even after he shows his more feminine side

That cartoon charactor was a man pretending to be a woman thats why that audience was turned off. Im sure if she was a real tranny they would be turned on by her lady cock and pretty femininty!!!!

Although even if people found it offensive, movie producers do have freedom of expression/speech, I mean in saying that its only a movie.

[greep]

meh

[Guest]

The idea of a "man in a dress" is how Hollywood portrays transsexuals. They are teaching our kids (the future generation), in cartoons like this, that a tranny is just a man dressed as a woman. And an ugly one at that. No one loves them, they make it look like.

Sure, many trannys are good looking, but ask why are so many of them NOT ABLE to find normal work? Why are all trannys looked at as freaks, not worthy of respect or dignity?
Hollywood controls movies and televison content.

I think that sort of tranny bashing should be banned because it creates a transphobic environment for transsexual EVERYWHERE. And Hollywood reinforces the transphobia by teaching young children, in cartoons, about us in a negative light.

They made Dire Straights remove the "little faggot" lyric in the song "Money For Nothing" because it demeans homosexuals.
And you will tell me and the board that it's okay to protect gays' images but not transsexuals' images?

It's not just this cartoon, there are many teaching kids that we are ugly, that we are accepted into society only so long as we can be called names and be misrepresented.

I say, if gays can be respected, so can we.

Babe,
xoxo

[bubbleboy]

Not sure how you jumped to the conclusion that they intended that the character jumping out of the cake is trans.

Looked like a cross dresser to me and I think that it is positive and progressive of them to include in a kids film.

[greep]

Babe, Dire Straights never removed or changed anything in their song. If you were to buy the album Brothers in Arms, you would hear the 'little faggot' line in all its glory.

Rather, radio stations were told to play an edited version of the song (many chose to play the real version-thankfully, in defiance)

But I agree, the TG community should keep up pressure on Hollywood, to come up with some serious roles for TG people. David Arquettes sister is a TG and she complains she cant find any real roles.

[Guest]

Look at this!

Hi,

To explain my point a little more in detail about how what we see on TV (what Hollywood enforces) controls public opinion, take a look at why we have been treated so unfairly.
If Hollywood had depicted trannys as serious people in serious roles as normal people, society would treat us much differently.

Fred and Barney, sneak around as women to win a cooking contest by tricking the judges. If i remember the cartoon correctly, they lost because they were accused of crossdressing and fraud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAS2S...eature=related
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In this next clip, the woman states on national television that educating children about cross-dressers (in a positive light) should not be taught in the childrens' schools.
However, it seems to be quite okay to show kids transsexuals, in cartoons, as long as the TS is the brunt of a nasty joke or the subject of disrespect - even in a nice, or comical way. It sends an overall negative message.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_VBDSJ5Dc
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All is going fine until Bugs' helmet falls off thus revealing that Elmer was TRICKED by a cross dresser. And then Elmer starts hunting Bugs again to Kill the Wabbit.
All the cross dressing scenes of Bugs Bunny go well until the person being fooled by Bugs realizes that it's not a girl. Then, aggression or disrespect is directed at the trans figure because of it. It sends a message.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHivHuPFBqA
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The "wolf in womens' clothing" in this clip is to play on the big bad wolf's image of a trickster. The wolf in sheep's clothing here is a crossdresser.
Doris, one of the ugly step sisters (a tranny) says, "Uh...All you girls...you're beautiful, look at you all...skinny, petite. Look at me. You think i can find a man?...NO! "But you (Fiona, the ugly ogre) you got one. You keep him. Keep him tight."
Fiona responds with an uncomfortable, "Uh...I'll remember that." As if only to be polite. But it sends a message to kids that a tranny has no right to think like a woman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFgl5q8FVM0
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Talk about a stereotype. Look how the uglystep sisters are portrayed here, in this brief clip at 0:54 seconds into the clip. They are portrayed so unfeminine with manly dispositions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZXV...eature=related
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Other cases of cross-dressing to commit a fraud. It looks so innocent at first but the message sent to kids is all too real. Cross dressers are frauds. Tricking people. Cheaters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J76cw...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogudz...1945638FA77E85
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmECI...3A3581D5C92318
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The result of all that, is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqh1M...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AWfF...eature=related
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Berlitz language schools had the RIGHT idea for this ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noWn3z4PbOU

Babe,
xoxo

[Guest]

Show your real face in your profile.

Not sure how you jumped to the conclusion that they intended that the character jumping out of the cake is trans.

Looked like a cross dresser to me and I think that it is positive and progressive of them to include in a kids film.

Hi bubbleboy,

They don't have to draw attention to the crossdresser, at all.
Why even put one in there unless to show kids that it's NOT OKAY to like them.
They didn't have to make him look like he made a mistake by dressing up in girl's clothes. See how they all reacted to him? Kids learn that and then copy it.

You are in here, in tgirlforums with REAL TRANSSEXUALS, why don't you show a pick of your face? Ashamed of something...like being associated with trannys (or crossdressers)?

The result of all this Hollywood brainwashing causes you guys to hide your faces, to avoid the places you normally would go to alone, when walking around with a tranny in public, unless she's very passable.
Even if she is passable, the guy cringes when she speaks and has a low voice. Hmm, why's that?
You all hide behind empty profiles and secretly meet us behind closed doors to have sex.
What makes it so embarrassing to be involved with a tranny? One word, HOLLYWOOD.

Babe,
xoxo

[Guest]

Not live onstage.

Babe, Dire Straights never removed or changed anything in their song. If you were to buy the album Brothers in Arms, you would hear the 'little faggot' line in all its glory.

Rather, radio stations were told to play an edited version of the song (many chose to play the real version-thankfully, in defiance)

Yes, the edited version and whenever Dire Straights performs the song live.
xo

[Guest]

That cartoon charactor was a man pretending to be a woman thats why that audience was turned off. Im sure if she was a real tranny they would be turned on by her lady cock and pretty femininty!!!!

Although even if you found it offensive, movie producers do have freedom of expression/speech.

Uhmm, technically, no one ever said in the movie that the king was NOT a crossdresser or an (in denial) transsexual, but he did it when he got dressed up as one. And they all cringed when he asked, "Which of you is attracted to me?".
Hollywood has brainwashed people into thinking that all trannys are crossdressing men. THAT'S MY POINT.

They have the right to expression?
Nowadays, they want to take Huckleberry Finn, And Uncle Tom's Cabin off of book shelves because of the use of the racist comments in the book against blacks. What happened to freedom of expression? I don't endorse racism of any form.

They wanted to (or maybe already have) removed all violence, and cigarette smoking from old cartoons. What happened to freedom of expression?

Dire Straights can't say the word "faggot" anymore. What happened to freedom of expression?

Try saying that the Holocaust never happened? Where's freedom of expression?
I am not implying that i believe it never happened. We all know it did.

Babe,
xoxo

[greep]

The 'Holocaust Illusion' is the grandaddy of all conspiracies.

I always find it odd, that all these so-called conspiracy theorists-believe in EVERY conspiracy EXCEPT this one.

Its probably because believing in this one usually brings some amount personal scrutiny and stirs up some 'real' emotions and 'real' backlash.

This is a conspiracy that takes balls to openly believe in!


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[unreachableone]

Agreed. It's in bad taste. Insensitive and uneducated. Making an articulate complaint would be worthwhile.
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[Guest]

It's not just them.


Hi incommunicado,

Even though the clip of the Shrek baby shower was redone to have the dialogue changed by some girls, the trannys in the movie are very manly.
Doris and Mabel, the ugly stepsisters, are socially accepted in the movie, but they ARE labeled as "ugly", and not much of an attempt has been made to make them very lady-like other than their clothes.

One voice can't do a lot, five voices can't do a lot. It has to be from a whole community, like the gay community did. And it's not just one film company - it's Hollywood, as a whole. Now, who exactly do we contact to complain to there?

They made millions from Shrek as it stands. They are having a whale of a time using us to make fun of. As a result, they add to our hardships in society.

Babe,
xoxo

P.S.
Someone, earlier, said, "Much ado about nothing." Indeed.
What do you do for a living.? And now tell me what you'd really LIKE to do for a living?