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[JimJones]

Hey shemales, and what's up to all my fellow shemale lovers.

I'm a 27 year old male and I started loving shemales 4 years ago. I've had a few encounters with shemales. The first one I met had me hypnotized and I didn't know she was packing until she told me after our date. It kind of spooked me and I stopped talking to her.

A year or so went by and I came across shemale porn for the first time, and it changed me. Any other porn is nothing to me compared to shemale porn, I love it. So much that I was too shy to go to shemale clubs or bars here in Toronto, so I figured I'd pay to meet one. I'm a goodlooking guy and I convinced her that I deserved a good deal - or so she told me.

I felt ripped off because I know there must be a lot of ugly disgusting people that pay around the same price as I have to. So the next couple shemales I met I did not pay for, I met them on social sites, and only found out later that they are actual escorts and charged for services. I did take them out to lunch/dinner at least though.

I have total respect for shemales, I think of them as females, I refer to them as she, her, etc., because I truly believe they are girls, and that's why I don't think I'm gay, because I cringe at the sight of a naked male, or the thought of gay sex. I also won't take anything through my back door.

I came across this site to further my knowledge of shemales, to discuss shemales with fellow shemale lovers, and to hopefully find my wife

[dom r]

I also see them as female because thats what they transformed into(I mean there are females with 2 genitalia as in hermaphrodites.They have a vagina and a penis but they are still female) and men would still be heterosexual if they took it in their butt by a very pretty lady, although in shemale porn its a turn off to me when they show some man with his hairy legs up and getting in his ass by a pretty girl because when it comes to porn, i only want to see a lady cumming as she gets the cock in not some man, yuk.

i mean just take a look at this eye candy girl cum scene. Porn cant get better-
KALENA RIOS from Transsexual activity dvd-


and Kalena has the prettiest feminine voice ever, cant get better as she makes those intense female cum sounds
at the moment of cum....OK I just bought this dvd.

[MaxwellJ]

I just see them as people. No one is 100% male or female, its not black and white, we are infinite shades of grey. I try to accept them for who they are, just like I do everyone else.

[toban]

[QUOTE=dom r;318455]I also see them as female because thats what they transformed into(I mean there are females with 2 genitalia as in hermaphrodites.They have a vagina and a penis but they are still female) - - - - -QUOTE]


True enough, but one of the highest ranked girls currently very active on Grooby YUM ( Chrissy) was born with ovaries and a penis but without a vagina or testicles and later in life as she developed, natural breasts thus making her a true "Intersex" but really not a hermaphrodite without external genetalia. I guess a few chromosomes got mixed up at the time she was conceived.

[dom r]

[QUOTE=toban;318503]

I also see them as female because thats what they transformed into(I mean there are females with 2 genitalia as in hermaphrodites.They have a vagina and a penis but they are still female) - - - - -QUOTE]


True enough, but one of the highest ranked girls currently very active on Grooby YUM ( Chrissy) was born with ovaries and a penis but without a vagina or testicles and later in life as she developed, natural breasts thus making her a true "Intersex" but really not a hermaphrodite without external genetalia. I guess a few chromosomes got mixed up at the time she was conceived.

Then transgenders,hermaphrodites and intersex are a COMBINATION of different sexes but if they look exactly like a female, then they are as senuous as a female, like her. She certainly looks more female than a man, actually she looks more female than most females!!!!! And those who dont agree with all of this is kind of prejudice against the cock.

[toban]

[QUOTE=dom r;318522]

Then transgenders,hermaphrodites and intersex are a COMBINATION of different sexes but if they look exactly like a female, then they are as senuous as a female, like her. She certainly looks more female than a man, actually she looks more female than most females!!!!! And those who dont agree with all of this is kind of prejudice against the cock.

Right on dom r - IMHO she is gorgeous and totally female in all respects but one!

[JimJones]

wow that girl rios does look damn sexy... I've never seen her before but thanks for pointing her out! now you've got some more competition on landing her! lol jokes man i wouldn't cut grass but i probably would never get the chance to with her anyway.

hope i can find some vids of her

[dom r]

[QUOTE=toban;318526]

Right on dom r - IMHO she is gorgeous and totally female in all respects but one!

True but lets look at a different example. What if a man who never took female hormones got reconstructive surgery to change his penis into a complete and functional vagina. His appearance without looking at his genitalia would be a man thus should be recognised as a man and I think the same thing should apply to trannies who look exactly like women. And those trannies who look somewhat in between a woman and a man should be recognised as part woman and part man, although this can get complicating because some trannies may look 80% woman and 20% man so how do you recognise them as what gender?......I guess part 80% woman,part 20% man..........perhaps in short she would be a 80/20 gender...............or a 50/50 depending. I really dont think because of a person's genitalia defines the gender to be either male or female, as the face,skin,tits,butt and body including bodily frame and muscle build also defines it.

[Wendy Summers]

True but lets look at a different example. What if a man who never took female hormones got reconstructive surgery to change his penis into a complete and functional vagina. His appearance without looking at his genitalia would be a man thus should be recognised as a man and I think the same thing should apply to trannies who look exactly like women. And those trannies who look somewhat in between a woman and a man should be recognised as part woman and part man, although this can get complicating because some trannies may look 80% woman and 20% man so how do you recognise them as what gender?......I guess part 80% woman,part 20% man..........perhaps in short she would be a 80/20 gender...............or a 50/50 depending. I really dont think because of a person's genitalia defines the gender to be either male or female, as the face,skin,tits,butt and body including bodily frame and muscle build also defines it.

Some days I wonder if you're performance posting or if you are for real LOL... I still can't decide. I think we need a thread where you rate each of us with our percentages.

[dom r]

Some days I wonder if you're performance posting or if you are for real LOL... I still can't decide. I think we need a thread where you rate each of us with our percentages.

Honestly there is an exact and precise percentage to determine at what percentage a transgender is female or male. Claiming because a transgender has a penis doesnt accurately determine that the gender is 100% male. That is bs, because people take female hormones at different rates and length of time including at different ages. Im very sure that an older man of 40 or 50 who starts on female hormones would result in being far more masculine compared to a much younger age where the effect is always at its most greatest especially before the physical change into a man at 17. For all these reasons shemales/transgenders should determine their precise gender with percentages. Am I the only one on WWW that thought of this?



Shes gotta be 98% female or something?

[Wendy Summers]

Honestly there is an exact and precise percentage to determine at what percentage a transgender is female or male. Claiming because a transgender has a penis doesnt accurately determine that the gender is 100% male. That is bs, because people take female hormones at different rates and length of time including at different ages. Im very sure that an older man of 40 or 50 who starts on female hormones would result in being far more masculine compared to a much younger age where the effect is always at its most greatest especially before the physical change into a man at 17. For all these reasons shemales/transgenders should determine their precise gender with percentages. Am I the only one on WWW that thought of this?



Shes gotta be 98% female or something?

I want to preface this with I'm definitely not attempting to troll anyone I'm just really curious with Dom's take on things...

For example, looking at the model you've attached, it's fairly clear she's had extensive plastic surgeries -- Do the effects of those surgeries count towards your percentages? Why would facial surgery, breast augmentation, butt implants count, but not SRS (which you disallowed in a previous post)?

[dom r]

I want to preface this with I'm definitely not attempting to troll anyone I'm just really curious with Dom's take on things...

For example, looking at the model you've attached, it's fairly clear she's had extensive plastic surgeries -- Do the effects of those surgeries count towards your percentages? Why would facial surgery, breast augmentation, butt implants count, but not SRS (which you disallowed in a previous post)?

Thats a hard question to answer because facial surgery, breast augmentation, fat injections and butt impants do make transgenders or males more feminine in appearance and for some they look exactly like females BUT if im correct about this I think what determines true female bodily growth, appearance and percentage wise are the exact physical changes that occurs when taking female hormones, changing from male to female which also includes a male's skin becoming softer female skin(I dont think theres a surgery for that), tits also growing naturally due to the female hormones, womanly figure occurs, etc.

I mean a male or transgender who undergoes facial surgeries and implants just to look more feminine(and hot) can be compared to a woman who was born female who has facial surgeries, has a mustache and beard injections into her skin, has muscle injections(I dont think theres such a thing, ha) and removes bodily fat in various places just to look more masculine or exactly like a man in appearance but would she be considered a 98% man when she never took any male hormones to change her growth? I dont think so because I think she would still be a 100% female trying to look like a man in a fake way perhaps.

Same thing with a man who never takes female hormones to change his bodily growth but gets sex reassignment surgery to form a vagina. Technically he would still be a 100% man.........ummmm with a real or fake vagina? (hahaha).its confusing.

Or I could be mistaken. As long as transgenders who were born male take female hormones to the point that some physical changes do occur into female, in which the most important change would be softer female skin, female figure and ah pretty face, maby they'll still be considered 98% female even when receiving facial surgeries, breast augmentation, fat injections and butt impants to become more feminine with or without(?) female hormones, like when women who were born female get silicone breast implants. Does that make them less female because their tits are fake? NO!!!!! It makes them more hotter as those hard nipples are popping out with big round tits jiggling about.

[merelypink]

i want to preface this with i'm definitely not attempting to troll anyone i'm just really curious with dom's take on things...

For example, looking at the model you've attached, it's fairly clear she's had extensive plastic surgeries -- do the effects of those surgeries count towards your percentages? Why would facial surgery, breast augmentation, butt implants count, but not srs (which you disallowed in a previous post)?

wow!!!!!!