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[tonguetw1ster]

I find it amusing that Barbie is accusing others of self-hate when she clearly feels the same way, but I suppose deflection and denial are her last refuge. I'm not sure that insulting your potential customers is the best business strategy, but then some people aren't too swift as is clearly evident from her abrasive, obnoxious posts. She cherry picks the posts she responds to in an effort to maintain some semblance of intelligence but still comes up short, resorting to articulate, well crafted responses like "eat shit and die f@g!!" I'm waiting for "oh yeah?!" and "I know you are but what am I?" I suspect I won't have to wait too long.

I don't understand why some people are so quick to try and apply a label to others sexual preferences and the way they identify themselves, and that's really the only thing that matters: how you identify yourself. There is no denial, or rationalization in identifying yourself in a certain way. Sexual arousal is not something one can consciously direct, it just is what it is.

That said, I personally don't believe that being gay is merely an attraction to cocks. It is an attraction to men - the whole package. If it were just an attraction to cocks, as Barbie asserts, then the multitude of men who enjoy strap-on play with women are all gay, even though the majority of them are not turned on at all in the least by a man, and would never consider playing with one. Enjoying the sensation of anal sex doesn't make you gay, just like being gay doesn't automatically mean that person enjoys the sensation of anal sex. There are many gay tops who never take it up the ass. How do they fit into this picture? Why are they gay? Maybe it's because they're attracted to men as a whole - the body shape of a man, the masculinity of a man, everything about a man, and not just their cocks, or the feeling of a cock in their ass.

I'm sure many t-girls don't identify as either men or women - they are t-girls. So why is it that men who are attracted to t-girls are assumed to be gay or bi? A gay man is attracted to other men. Bisexual men are attracted to both men and women. If a man is attracted to women and t-girls, and is not attracted to men, then why is he bi? If t-girls can identify as a third gender, then why are the men who are attracted to t-girls not allowed the same courtesy?

Bottom line: you are what you identify yourself to be. T-girls insist on this, and for them to deny that right to their admirers is a hypocritical double standard of the worst kind.

Barbie has issues, clearly. The vitriol she spews here must have some deep roots somewhere and she should probably seek therapy to work that out. And you'll note that I don't direct my comments at her because based on her previous posts here, I can say with some certainty that she's not worthy of my direct attention. Were that the case, she would quickly find out what it's like to bring a pointy stick to a nuclear war. Whatever her problem, she's best ignored and left in the corner where she can gnash her teeth, foam at the mouth, and vent for the general amusement of us all.

[WastedYouth]

any chance we can get back to the topic without resulting to childish name calling?

[Barbie_Swallows]

I find it amusing that Barbie is accusing others of self-hate when she clearly feels the same way, but I suppose deflection and denial are her last refuge. I'm not sure that insulting your potential customers is the best business strategy, but then some people aren't too swift as is clearly evident from her abrasive, obnoxious posts. She cherry picks the posts she responds to in an effort to maintain some semblance of intelligence but still comes up short, resorting to articulate, well crafted responses like "eat shit and die f@g!!" I'm waiting for "oh yeah?!" and "I know you are but what am I?" I suspect I won't have to wait too long.

I don't understand why some people are so quick to try and apply a label to others sexual preferences and the way they identify themselves, and that's really the only thing that matters: how you identify yourself. There is no denial, or rationalization in identifying yourself in a certain way. Sexual arousal is not something one can consciously direct, it just is what it is.

That said, I personally don't believe that being gay is merely an attraction to cocks. It is an attraction to men - the whole package. If it were just an attraction to cocks, as Barbie asserts, then the multitude of men who enjoy strap-on play with women are all gay, even though the majority of them are not turned on at all in the least by a man, and would never consider playing with one. Enjoying the sensation of anal sex doesn't make you gay, just like being gay doesn't automatically mean that person enjoys the sensation of anal sex. There are many gay tops who never take it up the ass. How do they fit into this picture? Why are they gay? Maybe it's because they're attracted to men as a whole - the body shape of a man, the masculinity of a man, everything about a man, and not just their cocks, or the feeling of a cock in their ass.

I'm sure many t-girls don't identify as either men or women - they are t-girls. So why is it that men who are attracted to t-girls are assumed to be gay or bi? A gay man is attracted to other men. Bisexual men are attracted to both men and women. If a man is attracted to women and t-girls, and is not attracted to men, then why is he bi? If t-girls can identify as a third gender, then why are the men who are attracted to t-girls not allowed the same courtesy?

Bottom line: you are what you identify yourself to be. T-girls insist on this, and for them to deny that right to their admirers is a hypocritical double standard of the worst kind.

Barbie has issues, clearly. The vitriol she spews here must have some deep roots somewhere and she should probably seek therapy to work that out. And you'll note that I don't direct my comments at her because based on her previous posts here, I can say with some certainty that she's not worthy of my direct attention. Were that the case, she would quickly find out what it's like to bring a pointy stick to a nuclear war. Whatever her problem, she's best ignored and left in the corner where she can gnash her teeth, foam at the mouth, and vent for the general amusement of us all.

[Shyla Wild]

any chance we can get back to the topic without resulting to childish name calling?

I've tried ....twice.

So far we have each side calling each other childish names, trolling and going completely off subject. Between all this self-hate crap, and theories thrown around about who's gay, in denial, etc; it has led to nothing more then childish elementary school school yard crap.


Ok seriously folks. Peace here. Back to topic. Before I spank you all.

[Shyla Wild]

I don't understand why some people are so quick to try and apply a label to others sexual preferences and the way they identify themselves, and that's really the only thing that matters: how you identify yourself. There is no denial, or rationalization in identifying yourself in a certain way. Sexual arousal is not something one can consciously direct, it just is what it is.

Bottom line: you are what you identify yourself to be. T-girls insist on this, and for them to deny that right to their admirers is a hypocritical double standard of the worst kind.

Well Said. Love this part.

Barbie has issues, clearly. The vitriol she spews here must have some deep roots somewhere and she should probably seek therapy to work that out. And you'll note that I don't direct my comments at her because based on her previous posts here, I can say with some certainty that she's not worthy of my direct attention. Were that the case, she would quickly find out what it's like to bring a pointy stick to a nuclear war. Whatever her problem, she's best ignored and left in the corner where she can gnash her teeth, foam at the mouth, and vent for the general amusement of us all.

I have to admit that the first part was excellent. A live and let live type of mentality. I was a little surprised with your judgement of another person; namely Barbie. Yes at times she is harsh. On these forums she tends to have a Howard Stern / Shock Rocker mentality. I have never met her but from what I heard she is a sweetheart in person.

Often members will comment on her "colourful" comments. Remember something about Howard Stern, which in a way in true about Barbie. The average Howard Stern listener that liked him, listened for about 20 minutes. The average Howard Stern hater listened for close to 2 hours. Why? They wanted to hear what he was going to say next.

[tonguetw1ster]

I have to admit that the first part was excellent. A live and let live type of mentality. I was a little surprised with your judgement of another person; namely Barbie. Yes at times she is harsh. On these forums she tends to have a Howard Stern / Shock Rocker mentality. I have never met her but from what I heard she is a sweetheart in person.

I'll admit that was a little out of character for me. I've tried not to comment, but felt compelled to this time. I tried to stay impersonal, but with Barbie it's so difficult. At least I managed to avoid egregious personal attacks like saying the removal of the Jarvis bike lane will be of particular impact to her because it will affect her ability to get to and from her customers, or something.

Here's the deal with Barbie: on a forum like this, the only thing anyone has to judge the kind of person you are is your written word, and based on her writing, Barbie is a nasty, bitter person IMO. Especially on this topic of whether or not guys who like t-girls are fags. She's incredibly quick to judge, immovable in her opinion, and shows a remarkable lack of tolerance and acceptance for someone who is part of a community that is striving for, and increasingly demands those things. If her comments were of the good-natured variety like "You are such a bitch!" between t-girls, that would be one thing, but she usually comes across as "disgusting faggot! /spit" which is incredibly hypocritical for someone in her position.

She's become a caricature. Very nearly a circus clown. I generally ignore her, but she's just getting over-the-top with her comments and as I said, I felt compelled...

And true to form, she's run into an argument she can't win, so she resorts to cutesy, dismissive tactics like big bouncy emoticons. Either that or she can't say anything because her mouth is full of the cock of the most recent cute boy that she saw waiting at the last bus stop she cycled by. See? There I go again... But it's all based on stuff she's posted. I'm not making this up. This is the persona she presents to everyone here, and then she stands in judgement of others. It's absurd.

I'm sorry if my comments sound harsh, but I have plenty of precedent to base them on. Whether or not she is a sweetheart in person, she's a bitch here, and not in the good-natured "You are such a bitch!" between t-girls kind of way. This is the last I'm going to write about her. She's just not worth my mental energy.

On an unrelated, and much more pleasant note, Shyla, you are simply gorgeous, and you have a most spectacular piece of equipment. If I ever get out to Montreal, i would very much like for you to tie me up and use it on me until I can't walk or talk.

[lynn]

I think we should let this thread die.. Im not feeling it anymore.. Kinda numb now.. LOL..

How many puppets want to play with real people. ?? Its funny as hell.. Damn son you aint even got yourself an avatar..

[Rock Savage]

Are men that like post-ops "gay"?

[Shyla Wild]

On an unrelated, and much more pleasant note, Shyla, you are simply gorgeous, and you have a most spectacular piece of equipment. If I ever get out to Montreal, i would very much like for you to tie me up and use it on me until I can't walk or talk.

Thank you, you're very sweet. Be careful what you ask for though. Not only did God bless me with size, but also blessed me with Godlike stamina. Can't walk or talk, haha. My love; I can do that slowly over a few days.

Are men that like post-ops "gay"?

Don Savage would like a crack at this

When I came down with MY definition of "gay" remember what I said. In theory, this breaks no "straight" rule. Her ID's says female and even though she cannot reproduce, she has female genitals and breasts. Her hormone level at that point should be similar to a genetic female. Even under a quick medical exam she will be considered female.

To me, a man loving a post-op trans-woman should not be considered gay. Most likely they can and will adopt children. This is as normal as a life most trans-women can hope for.

Unfortunately, we all know that the world does not think like this. The question/statement will always exist. But she was born a boy.

Rock, it's a foggy grey zone. Maybe the easiest thing would be to identify a trans-woman as a third sex. For example, I believe in Pakistan they have began having Male-Female & trans washrooms.

[Rock Savage]

Rock, it's a foggy grey zone. Maybe the easiest thing would be to identify a trans-woman as a third sex. For example, I believe in Pakistan they have began having Male-Female & trans washrooms.

If I had to explain my attraction to tgirls, I would say "I see them as potential post ops". The ones I like best are the ones headed in that direction.

[Shyla Wild]

If I had to explain my attraction to tgirls, I would say "I see them as potential post ops". The ones I like best are the ones headed in that direction.

Understandable. Most people prefer to hangout with people with goals and dreams in life.

[lynn]

I think alot of Tgirls love their cocks... and financially if they had the money they would choose cosmetics, implants, facial rc, before SRS..

[Shyla Wild]

I think alot of Tgirls love their cocks... and financially if they had the money they would choose cosmetics, implants, facial rc, before SRS..

Maybe I misunderstood, but I believe ever tgirl saves that for the end. To cut it off in the beginning would be like started a race at the finish...no? I don't think I know a single tgirl that has cut it off before any type of surgery.

Mainly BECAUSE of the money.

[sniperki]

Maybe I misunderstood, but I believe ever tgirl saves that for the end. To cut it off in the beginning would be like started a race at the finish...no? I don't think I know a single tgirl that has cut it off before any type of surgery.

Mainly BECAUSE of the money.

Cutting it off awww thats no wood.

[Shyla Wild]

Cutting it off awww thats no wood.

Agreed! We always save the best for last