I think I love Jacques Villeneuve

[Rockheart]

Never thought I would love a man but i love his take on the student protests.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/motorsports...-protests.html

http://www.canada.com/sports/autorac...903/story.html


The whole thing makes Canadians look ridiculous.

[WastedYouth]

He said what we're all thinking. Great interview.

[tiradentes]

Geez... I thought these poor students would get sympathy from a gazillionaire

[Shyla Wild]

This whole situation is bullshit. I don't want my school taxes to go up and these lazy students don't want to work. Quebec has the lowest tutition fees in North America. Layla told me that they were protesting on my street in Montreal while I was on tour. My answer was to egg them. They are disrupting the private and public sections...disrupting people that pay school taxes so these retards can get an education. I saw a student walking with his parents....the stupidity in this image is simple. One of them has to pay. If it's not the student paying, it's a school tax hike. So the parents protest with their child, and if they get what they want then their taxes are going up. The original hike was something like 380-400$ a year....do the math. Divide that by 52 weeks....it's less then 8$ a week. Roughly the same number as min wage. So you are telling me these lazy brats couldn't ask their bosses to work one extra hour a week?

No wonder Quebec leads the way for people on welfare and unemployment insurance. Oh just so you know, you people in Toronto. Do some research. See how much of your tax dollars gets filtered to Quebec....The students keep regetting the offers from the government but there is no counter offer from them. Just a bunch of protests. How productive. Imagine, these idiots are the future. No compromise

As for the Police Violence, I recently asked an officer if he wanted me to pepper-spray a student that was acting like a retard as the police are now scared of being on Youtube....I am totally on the side of the government and the police.

Want a protest. Remember the class of 2012-2014. These french kids (as no English school is involved in this) bring to the workforce skills that no one wants. Don't hire them. As for the noise. That we will be patient. And next year during exam time, we will walk into their schools banging on pots and pans just like they did.

Justice.

The government doesn't owe them anything. This is a capitalist society...not a socialist.

[toban]

It's way past time to get tough with these criminals!

The students, by their unwillingness to negotiate sensibly have now lost control of their own protest.

As far as I can determine, the current situation has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on, or connection to, the original complaint. Professional protestors and rabble-rousers of all sorts have commandeered this affair and are using the students' tuition debate (if there ever was any real debate) to enable them to protest, nothing specific really, they're just falsely using it as justification for their wanton disruption of society.

IMHO the cities should invest in a couple of water cannons. They're much more effective than policemen with trunchions! We've all seen them in the news as they're used on crowds overseas - they are so powerful they sweep the protesters right off their feet and soak them through and through (that's assuming, since they're in Quebec, they have any clothes on). Hey, even add dye could be added to the water so the idots would be identifiable for a few days.

[Rockheart]

Geez... I thought these poor students would get sympathy from a gazillionaire

If he had that attitude when he was young, he would be no where today.
Life is what you as an individual make it, not by banging pots and pans in the street.
These people certainly are not our next crop of millionaires.

Where is missing a semester of school going to put any of these kids?
They now lost a semester that they most likely paid for and will never get the money back.
Protesting over a small increase in tuition? They just lost all the money they are fighting for.

Toban is right professional anarchists are helping, most likely separatist forces are pushing this too.
Just watch a new referendum to separate come out of all this.

Quebec can separate, then we can watch them slowly go bankrupt,
we don't need another Greece but that is what would happen.
The Taxpayers of Canada own Quebec and have been funding it for years, so they can have their own private Paris.
We should just let them take their ball and play alone, they will live in poverty.

Here we sit in the richest country in the world, with the most opportunity in the world,
and look how much of the next generation is acting.

My dad only got to go to school because his parent saved their whole life, and that includes high school.
His 6 older brothers did not get to go to school, as they had to stay and work on the farm so he had the opportunity.
I didn't hear them protesting.

I went to school full time for 7 years while working 80 hours a week bartending at night.
After all that I still owed $40,000 in loans.
I got my degrees, got great jobs and paid it off, plus all my tax dollars going to these whiners.

Spoiled brats is right.

[Shyla Wild]

IMHO the cities should invest in a couple of water cannons.

Maybe we should try to sell this to the United States as Terrorism. Have them invoke the Patriot Act...

[Rockheart]

The students, by their unwillingness to negotiate sensibly have now lost control of their own protest.

As far as I can determine, the current situation has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on, or connection to, the original complaint. Professional protestors and rabble-rousers of all sorts have commandeered this affair and are using the students' tuition debate (if there ever was any real debate) to enable them to protest, nothing specific really, they're just falsely using it as justification for their wanton disruption of society.

IMHO the cities should invest in a couple of water cannons. They're much more effective than policemen with trunchions! We've all seen them in the news as they're used on crowds overseas - they are so powerful they sweep the protesters right off their feet and soak them through and through (that's assuming, since they're in Quebec, they have any clothes on). Hey, even add dye could be added to the water so the idots would be identifiable for a few days.

Actually Vancouver just before the olympics bought sound cannons but i never saw the used.
I would love to see them all blasted with those things.

http://<a href="http://www.youtube.c...iYoMkkCPvg</a>



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ontent=2430916

[Shyla Wild]

I really don't see the issue with pepper-spray.

Montreal's finest earning their pay.

[maddplotter]

You are not special

So glad I came across this article and video.


Social media was buzzing about a Boston-area high school teacher's blunt commencement speech that told students they "are not special."

Wellesley High English teacher David McCullough Jr. told graduates "You are not special. You are not exceptional," quoting empirical evidence: "Across the country no fewer than 3.2 million seniors are graduating about now from more than 37,000 high schools. That's 37,000 valedictorians ... 37,000 class presidents ... 92,000 harmonizing altos ... 340,000 swaggering jocks ... 2,185,967 pairs of Uggs," he said in the speech published in the Boston Herald. He added: "Even if you're one in a million, on a planet of 6.8 billion that means there are nearly 7,000 people just like you."

McCullough makes a statement on parents who overdo it in a modern society focused on collecting achievements. "You've been pampered, cosseted, doted upon, helmeted, bubble wrapped ... feted and fawned over and called sweetie pie." But he adds in a video on Wellesley Channel TV YouTube page, "You see, if everyone is special, then no one is. If everyone gets a trophy, trophies become meaningless. ... We have of late, we Americans, to our detriment, come to love accolades more than genuine achievement."
McCullough's address does push students to recognize real achievement: "The fulfilling life, the distinctive life, the relevant life is an achievement," and he encourages graduates "to do whatever you do for no reason other than you love it and believe in its importance." - By Pueng Vongs | The Lookout

[bottomguyusually]

This all started and dates back to 1969

Since 1969 Quebeckers have the lowest % of students going on to University, and have a HS drop out rate of 1 in 4. So lower tuition fees obviously did not help send them, or keep them in school.

[falkon]

This whole situation is bullshit. I don't want my school taxes to go up and these lazy students don't want to work. Quebec has the lowest tutition fees in North America. Layla told me that they were protesting on my street in Montreal while I was on tour. My answer was to egg them. They are disrupting the private and public sections...disrupting people that pay school taxes so these retards can get an education. I saw a student walking with his parents....the stupidity in this image is simple. One of them has to pay. If it's not the student paying, it's a school tax hike. So the parents protest with their child, and if they get what they want then their taxes are going up. The original hike was something like 380-400$ a year....do the math. Divide that by 52 weeks....it's less then 8$ a week. Roughly the same number as min wage. So you are telling me these lazy brats couldn't ask their bosses to work one extra hour a week?

No wonder Quebec leads the way for people on welfare and unemployment insurance. Oh just so you know, you people in Toronto. Do some research. See how much of your tax dollars gets filtered to Quebec....The students keep regetting the offers from the government but there is no counter offer from them. Just a bunch of protests. How productive. Imagine, these idiots are the future. No compromise

As for the Police Violence, I recently asked an officer if he wanted me to pepper-spray a student that was acting like a retard as the police are now scared of being on Youtube....I am totally on the side of the government and the police.

Want a protest. Remember the class of 2012-2014. These french kids (as no English school is involved in this) bring to the workforce skills that no one wants. Don't hire them. As for the noise. That we will be patient. And next year during exam time, we will walk into their schools banging on pots and pans just like they did.

Justice.

The government doesn't owe them anything. This is a capitalist society...not a socialist.

school tax is to pay for school boards expenses. Income tax, PST and various other gov fees go to universities.

The amount of money being funelled from Canada to Quebec is between 1 billion and 6 billions $ a year, depending on the studies. Still way too much. And I don't think we have the highest number of wellfarers or unemployed in Canada. Much more than Alberta, but I think some of the Maritimes go beyond us on this.

Oh, and these protests are mostly in Montreal. Bastion of the left and such.

The student protests have long gone beyond (I think since day 2 or 3) the university tuition fees. It's all about everything the left holds dear: riots, freedom of speech for those who think like you, democracy so long as you vote for a communist party, everything free paid by those mysterious rich people*, obey only the laws you feel you want to obey on any particular day of the week, etc, etc.


*note: there are between 5 and 8 billionaires in Quebec, depending on the stock market fluctuations. If these people were taxed 100% on their income (not seizing their assets), they would about cover the deficit for one year.

[Tasha Jones RIP]

Montreal's finest earning their pay.

To be honest I really do not care about this issue. I have not been wasting my time reading about it or worrying about it at all. So my post is not about the topic but the video.

I really feel there was no need of pepper spray in this situation. A simple "other get the hell out of here or get arrested" would have done the trick. This was a small group of people as well as other people just walking by that got hit or could have been hit with pepper spray. I understand the need to use it to protect yourself. But in this case there was no need. Sometimes police take things a bit to far. I can see if things get out of hand or that huge amount of people started to act out. But a couple of kids...come on..silly and unneeded.

[Rockheart]

school tax is to pay for school boards expenses. Income tax, PST and various other gov fees go to universities.

The amount of money being funelled from Canada to Quebec is between 1 billion and 6 billions $ a year, depending on the studies. Still way too much. And I don't think we have the highest number of wellfarers or unemployed in Canada. Much more than Alberta, but I think some of the Maritimes go beyond us on this.

Oh, and these protests are mostly in Montreal. Bastion of the left and such.

The student protests have long gone beyond (I think since day 2 or 3) the university tuition fees. It's all about everything the left holds dear: riots, freedom of speech for those who think like you, democracy so long as you vote for a communist party, everything free paid by those mysterious rich people*, obey only the laws you feel you want to obey on any particular day of the week, etc, etc.


*note: there are between 5 and 8 billionaires in Quebec, depending on the stock market fluctuations. If these people were taxed 100% on their income (not seizing their assets), they would about cover the deficit for one year.

Why should anyone get taxed 100%, that is not fair no matter how much they make.
Just because some are successful and others aren't why should they pay so much more than others.
Paying more is one thing, but 100% is not ever realistic or right.

As it is, these protestors pay no tax at all and rely on the taxpayer for over 50% of the real costs of their education as it is. Students pay a mere 40% or less of the real cost of their education, no one realizes this.
Yes, education is already highly subsidized by the taxpayer, but no one is paying the full ticket anyway.
If people had to bear the real costs of an education, then only the rich would go to university.
Universities were once only for the rich, until government tax dollars made high education more reachable for all.

These aren't real students, this is just the Anti Capitalist Occupy movement again.
If a large portion of the next generation wants to be hippies and not work then why do they need to go to school?
We should start some large communes for them and they can live in tents and grow carrots and peas to survive.
The won't need cable or the internet, these are just tools of Capitalism.

As far as I am concerned if any one of these people has a smart phone or an Xbox, they are hypocrites.
They want a share of the pie for doing absolutely nothing, what about all the people that have worked hard their whole lives for what the have? Should they just fork over all their money for the communal good?
So some spoiled brats don't have to work for their education or for a living.

[Rockheart]

To be honest I really do not care about this issue. I have not been wasting my time reading about it or worrying about it at all. So my post is not about the topic but the video.

I really feel there was no need of pepper spray in this situation. A simple "other get the hell out of here or get arrested" would have done the trick. This was a small group of people as well as other people just walking by that got hit or could have been hit with pepper spray. I understand the need to use it to protect yourself. But in this case there was no need. Sometimes police take things a bit to far. I can see if things get out of hand or that huge amount of people started to act out. But a couple of kids...come on..silly and unneeded.

I think it just has to do with respect.

If a people have no respect and won't follow instructions from officials, this means they have no respect for others rights.

A face full of pepper spray is far better than a billy club to the side of the head.
In my opinion, they deserve the latter.