My Personal Relationship With A Shemale Escort

[Dreamweaver]

Now, let's get back to the thread. Maybe i should save my opinion and write a book of escorting instead

Not a bad idea, Tia ... sex always sells. Xaviera Hollander made a fortune from her book "The Happy Hooker" when it became a best seller years ago. Write a few pages then shop it around to some New York publishers, you never know!

yep been there, done that,

I think it's safe to say, EVERY male poster here, has fallen head over heels for at least one t-girl escort,
anyone who says NO, is probaly lying, so don't think you are the only one dreamweaver,

there really is no reason as to why things don't work, heck we have all had gg relationships that didn't work, so why would this, but like you said, you have to realize whats happening and walk away sometimes, as hard as it is,

but reality is, most guys that want a relationship with a t-girl, are older, and the girls are younger, just doesn't work,

Never met to many 20 something guys that would commit to a relationship with a t-girl, yes for money & drugs & sex, but not long term,

and despite all the beautifulness, the hot bods, the gorgeous faces, etc etc, at the end of the day, most t-girls still have those guy habits, which us guys all are to aware of,

just my $0.02, later

Hi Dan ... I think the whole problem is trying to have a normal relationship with a working escort, T-girl or GG makes no difference. I've met a few t-girls who aren't pros, and the whole thing feels different when you don't have that nagging feeling that there is an ulterior motive behind their interest in you.

One thing I find interesting is that the person that I was involved with a few months ago seems to have a "relationship script" she uses to keep her current boyfriend cons running smoothly.

You know that every word coming out of her mouth is a lie, but you don't want to believe a person could be that low so you just continue to let her plow through your hard earned cash...

She kind of reminds me of Dexter ... a psychopath with no emotions but knows how pretend she has them to fool and manipulate people to give the impression that she is a normal person with real human emotions.

My expert advice to this new guy that she's gushing her love for on Facebook ... keep shovelling that cash her way and she'll keep feeding you all the BS you like to hear.

Bottom line: if you stop spending your money on her, she will leave you. That's reality.
Anyways ... cheers everyone, thanks for your posts and have a great Christmas!

[Dreamweaver]

Escort POV

Interesting POV from an ex-escort trying to stay out of the biz and have a normal life with an ex-client:

http://www.dearcupid.org/question/do...ally-work.html

[sensual_lover20]

Sorry that happened to you defiantly a unfortunate situation. But don't let it taint your view on all girls.

I met Kitana once. Not sure if you know who I am. I met her not as an escort, in fact, I thought she was not one and worked in fashion in Vancouver. I am Toronto-based so I did not inquire much. I later did the math and found out. Nonetheless...

She is actually very realistic, friendly and down to earth and am certain would do the right thing for the right person. She never led me on and was fair. She is a good girl. So as she said, don't let it taint your view on all girls, but always be weary.

[Tia Phoenixx]

Interesting POV from an ex-escort trying to stay out of the biz and have a normal life with an ex-client:

http://www.dearcupid.org/question/do...ally-work.html

great finding, thanks for sharing with us Dreamweaver!

It's a sad story although not all of us, providers/escorts/companions feel the same way.

I don't hate my clients and i personally think that they should see an escort instead of cheating with other girl besides their wives or girlfriend.

We are here to work and fulfill our clients's sexual fantasies but NOT involve with their personal lives. It's not cheating for me.

Since escorting is the oldest profession in the world, there are some success story along the way, mine included.

Escorting has given me the opportunity to do lots of things in life.

I'm embarrassed to admit that money can buy, give and contribute to lots of things. But that's the fact.

Though my life is still not (yet) perfect, but it could have been worse for sure, if i did not decide to become a full time escort 6 years ago

my 2 cents

Now, i'm going to bed. Good night


p.s: I'm in Tucson, Arizona right now (will be in Phoenix tomorrow), and the view and the weather here are spectacular at this time of the year

[xoxJanexox]

great finding, thanks for sharing with us Dreamweaver!

It's a sad story although not all of us, providers/escorts/companions feel the same way.

I don't hate my clients and i personally think that they should see an escort instead of cheating with other girl besides their wives or girlfriend.

We are here to work and fulfill our clients's sexual fantasies but NOT involve with their personal lives. It's not cheating for me.

Since escorting is the oldest profession in the world, there are some success story along the way, mine included.

Escorting has given me the opportunity to do lots of things in life.

I'm embarrassed to admit that money can buy, give and contribute to lots of things. But that's the fact.

Though my life is still not (yet) perfect, but it could have been worse for sure, if i did not decide to become a full time escort 6 years ago

my 2 cents

Now, i'm going to bed. Good night


p.s: I'm in Tucson, Arizona right now (will be in Phoenix tomorrow), and the view and the weather here are spectacular at this time of the year

Well said Tia!

Since I started reading this thread and putting aside my sympathy for the gentleman the has suffered the ordeal, I find that men in general are living in an delusional fantasy of swaying "professional" escorts to be their lovers.

The reason that I emphasized the word professional is at the core of this thread as there is a marked distinction between a "Shemale Escort" and a "professional" Shemale Escort. Every t-girl can be an escort but very few are professionals and reputable.

I honestly find it almost impossible that a professional escort would engage in a personal relationship with a client. The simple fact that most men tend to intentionally ignore is that what you see out their as a reputable escort was not created in a vacuum, rather she has spent a lot of time, dedication and effort to be where she is right now. Would someone that spent all this effort give it for the sake of the company of someone else? Logically this could only happen if that person would add tremendously to the escort.

Anyone reading the story of this thread would recognize from the beginning that the escort in question was not a professional one. Continuing reading the story, any fair observer would notice that there were several red flags, yet the gentleman elected to continue. But why is that? it is in my view, a clear state of denial or rejection of the reality that was obvious before him.

I personally lean more towards the pragmatic analysis of things and I find it pathetic for men to think that they can change the nature of things. The nature of this profession is that in order to be a professional escort you would need to work "very" hard, and once you are a reputable one your annual per capita is sufficient to suppress any emotional calls. I know that the truth is harsh but I had to say it!

[Dreamweaver]

Well said Tia!

Since I started reading this thread and putting aside my sympathy for the gentleman the has suffered the ordeal, I find that men in general are living in an delusional fantasy of swaying "professional" escorts to be their lovers.

The reason that I emphasized the word professional is at the core of this thread as there is a marked distinction between a "Shemale Escort" and a "professional" Shemale Escort. Every t-girl can be an escort but very few are professionals and reputable.

I honestly find it almost impossible that a professional escort would engage in a personal relationship with a client. The simple fact that most men tend to intentionally ignore is that what you see out their as a reputable escort was not created in a vacuum, rather she has spent a lot of time, dedication and effort to be where she is right now. Would someone that spent all this effort give it for the sake of the company of someone else? Logically this could only happen if that person would add tremendously to the escort.

Anyone reading the story of this thread would recognize from the beginning that the escort in question was not a professional one. Continuing reading the story, any fair observer would notice that there were several red flags, yet the gentleman elected to continue. But why is that? it is in my view, a clear state of denial or rejection of the reality that was obvious before him.

I personally lean more towards the pragmatic analysis of things and I find it pathetic for men to think that they can change the nature of things. The nature of this profession is that in order to be a professional escort you would need to work "very" hard, and once you are a reputable one your annual per capita is sufficient to suppress any emotional calls. I know that the truth is harsh but I had to say it!

Jane: Very well put.

You are very right, the person I was involved with was a "Shemale escort" ... but she was not a "PROFESSIONAL Shemale Escort." She most certainly wasn't a Tia, Lucy or Lola all of whom I'm sure don't need to resort to preying on people's emotions in order to receive free meals, phone service and rent to benefit themselves.

It's all simple cash for service, period.

I'm pretty much over that criminal ... it's amazing how fast the feelings went away. But those feelings have been replace by anger, resentment and deep embarrassment by what happened to me. Worse, what COULD have happened to me if I didn't get my strength back to start saying NO to her.

It's interesting that there was a time not far back when I was so attracted to her, now I see her photo or name and I just want to vomit.

This thread is still alive and humming along after all these months because there are many like me who are falling prey to other "non-professional shemale escorts". I receive PMs almost daily from other guys who are thinking about getting emotionally involved with a working escort. My advice? Don't do it. Be strong, get out before you get too emotionally hooked. Trust your instincts.

I was conned big time. I know it now. I ignored the "red flags" as you mentioned, I confronted her and fought with her over them ... but in the end I chose to ignore it only to continue making a fool out of myself. She has a way of turning your emotions against you to try to make you feel ashamed of of yourself for daring to think that she could be such a low life ... then she will ease back into extorting money from you once things have cooled off, all the while doing the same with other guys.

As I mentioned before, on her Facebook lately she has been gushing about the latest guy she is scamming... bragging about all the expensive meals he is buying her, paying for her clubbing & gambling, showing what a rich guy he is, (his new sports car etc.), how much she loves him and how lucky she is to have found him. Same old same old. All that BS was me just a few months ago (along with a few other guys at the same time).

But underneath all that boasting BS, my bet is this new guy may be going through a break up, divorce or separation and he is feeling very vulnerable, which is a weakness that made him fall easy prey to her cons. As it did me, and several others.

She is still "escorting", easy side money for her while the "boyfriend" pays for everything ...

I'm sure he will also be providing her with free accommodation in the not too distant future ... he will waste thousands of dollars on her before coming to his senses. He will be left feeling conned and humiliated. She will simply move on to her next victim with emotional scars ...

the con goes on and on and on ....

[Rantsalot]

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Any chance of this thread getting locked or something to that effect? The said escort that was originally being told about in this story does feel bad....but lately its gotten to the point where her personal life AND security have been compromised and that is definitely not cool.

Look. I know this was a sad state of affairs and this had happened before with another t girl a year ago or so regarding financial issues but that thread was dropped so shouldn't this one?

I do not want to see anything get escalated where people eventually may get physically hurt or worse by this.

[toban]

I would suggest that the story be left active so as to die of natural causes!

- - - - - - The said escort that is being told about in this story does feel bad....but lately its gotten to the point where her personal life AND security have been compromised and that is definitely not cool. - - - - - - -

I consider the thread to be very informative & helpful to those of us who are so susceptible/gullible/foolish etc., etc. and to those who may still be tempted to follow suit.

I'm curious about the concern for the girl here involved. I quote from Dreamweaver's initial post: "I will be using assumed names in this story, as my purpose is to provide a good read of my experiences for others to learn from and not to humiliate anyone publicly. I will call her Leslie in this story. She lives in Toronto, I live in the west." where he specifically states that he wishes to inform others of the dangers of dating an escort but wishes to avoid public humiliation of the other girl involved.

I've just reread the thread and while I may have missed it, I can't recall any mention of the girl by her actual name or of seeing any posts by that girl mentioning either her distress about the issue or her concern about her well being. From where did those issues arise? Could it be, I wonder, that "Leslie" has requested that the Forum quash the story because of her personal discomfort at being found out?

Many of the 50+ posts in the thread, especially those presented by actual working escorts have been most informative. At the same time there has actually been very little in particular mentioned about "Leslie" in the posts in this thread! Most posts contain only general comments about the advisability of attempting to start a personal relationship with an escort but mention of the girl in question has long been absent from the thread recently.

In my opinion it would be wrong for the thread to be locked, removed or otherwise be changed, particularly if it is done solely to soothe the feelings of the girl, as yet unidentified !

[Rantsalot]

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I know who both parties are involved upon the creation of the thread. I said my piece. This is more than trying not to hurt a girls feelings or wreck a reputation. As I mentioned before the girl feels her security has been compromised.

In the end its not up to me what happens next. Just thought I would try and help and also try and prevent any kind of incident.

I'm washing my hands clean of this and wont get involved with this or any other thread similar to this that may pop up in the future anymore..

[Tia Phoenixx]

I consider the thread to be very informative & helpful to those of us who are so susceptible/gullible/foolish etc., etc. and to those who may still be tempted to follow suit.

I'm curious about the concern for the girl here involved. I quote from Dreamweaver's initial post: "I will be using assumed names in this story, as my purpose is to provide a good read of my experiences for others to learn from and not to humiliate anyone publicly. I will call her Leslie in this story. She lives in Toronto, I live in the west." where he specifically states that he wishes to inform others of the dangers of dating an escort but wishes to avoid public humiliation of the other girl involved.

I've just reread the thread and while I may have missed it, I can't recall any mention of the girl by her actual name or of seeing any posts by that girl mentioning either her distress about the issue or her concern about her well being. From where did those issues arise? Could it be, I wonder, that "Leslie" has requested that the Forum quash the story because of her personal discomfort at being found out?

Many of the 50+ posts in the thread, especially those presented by actual working escorts have been most the informative. At the same time there has actually been very little in particular mentioned about "Leslie" in the posts in this thread! Most posts contain only general comments about the advisability of attempting to start a personal relationship with an escort but mention of the girl in question has long been absent from the thread recently.

In my opinion it would be wrong for the thread to be locked, removed or otherwise be changed, particularly if it is done solely to soothe the feelings of the girl, as yet unidentified !

I second that!

This thread is informative. It gives chances for us, tgirl providers and clients sharing our personal story.

btw, i don't know who "Leslie" is either....and i don't have to know.

[Shyla Wild]

As a Moderator, I see no place where the identity or safety has been put at risk. No real names are used. Every story has two sides and can be told from different angles. Also, not everything we read may be the complete truth. The story or stories told may be true or false, embellished or not.

I have been asked in the past to remove things based on other factors. Nothing dangerous or reputation damaging has been mentioned about this, so other than this being an interesting read, I see nothing damaging on this thread.

Shyla

[toban]

Intervention in this thread is unnecesary!

While you three (Dreamwever, Rantsalot & "Leslie") may know each other you must realize that there are over 53,000 Forum members, myself and Tia included, who have not the slightest idea who any of you are. Nor has any reader any reason to cause harm to the unknown "Leslie" or to seek retribution for what she may have done to another unknown who happens to be a former client/lover.

Any threats or actions against "Leslie" would have to have come from within her own circle of personal contacts or friends and not from those Forum members who may have read simply this thread. Such readers know absolutely nothing about her or her former lover!

[Rantsalot]

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What's this thread about? Who are we talking about? Don't know don't care. Millions of other threads too look at.

[Dreamweaver]

What's this thread about? Who are we talking about? Don't know don't care. Millions of other threads too look at.

Exactly. If people want to look at another thread, let them. If they want to look at and add to this thread, let them. This thread is up to 3600 views and climbing, so I take it many people are interested in it.

I'm not out to harm anyone, just to share my experiences with others. If I was out to harm someone, I could have used real names.

If I seemed bitter at times, it's because I'm still trying to pay off this enormous debt that I was left with, there is no offer of help and frankly it really pisses me off.

I was there, I know how it went down. So does she.

If some people recognized the circumstances in my story, well I have no control over that.

All I did was tell my story anonymously and truthfully.

[xoxJanexox]

Any chance of this thread getting locked or something to that effect? The said escort that was originally being told about in this story does feel bad....but lately its gotten to the point where her personal life AND security have been compromised and that is definitely not cool.

Look. I know this was a sad state of affairs and this had happened before with another t girl a year ago or so regarding financial issues but that thread was dropped so shouldn't this one?

I do not want to see anything get escalated where people eventually may get physically hurt or worse by this.

All what I can get out of this is a unmerited appeal by proxy!

The questions raised in this thread and the arguments generated are very helpful to the members of this community at both ends of the spectrum.

I can't see anything in this thread which point to a particular individual and more important I find the attitude of the gentleman who initiated this thread to be very reasonable.

If this thread is to be removed because an anonymous provider feels that her feelings are being hurt then the whole critical reviews section shall be abandoned where providers are being explicitly labeled by their names based on subjective assessment, that could be very harsh at times, from clients.

The claim that this thread might be endangering the security of the provider is in my simple view a futile attempt to overcome the free speech concept of this forum and to justify overriding this founding principle, for the following reasons:

a) the thread is completely anonymous.
b) the tone of the language is reasonable.

Last. the above opinion is based on the posts generated so far and shall these undergo noticeable change in the future, it would be still open to bring up this concern again.