Customers Protecting Themselves When Visiting an Escort

[lookingforlove]

Unfortunately, the US is light years behind Canada as far as legalized prostitution is concerned. So, this inquiry may be directed toward members who are residents of the US or other countries where prostitution is against the law.

A few weeks ago, in my hometown, there were around 20 men arrested for soliciting for sex. A few prostitutes where either threatened or coerced by the police into a sting operation in order to snare these customers. These men, many of them married and some even upstanding members of the community, were arrested, handcuffed, jailed overnight, photographed, etc. The newspapers posted their photographs and their biographical data for the world to see. I'm quite sure that most of these men now have their lives completely ruined. I can't imagine how much worse it would have been if any of these men had been soliciting for TGirls instead of GGs.

As much as I deplore the idiotic laws governing prostitution in the US the laws are still in place and the police can arrest either a prostitute, a customer, or both. Although the "crime" is only a 3rd degree Misdemeanor it's the exposure that is the real crime.

As such, when a customer goes to visit a TGirl escort there must be a way to protect one's self from arrest. Even if one does not mention anything about sex for money once the money has been paid (even money in an envelope placed on a dresser) then the police consider it a transaction for sex. For any of you out there who may be involved with the law or be a legal type person, what is the best way to protect yourself? If, before paying the money, you ask the the escort "if she is a police officer, any member of the law enforcement community, or if she is involved in any type of entrapment", and she says no, then do the police have any cause to arrest? I am also wondering if you are paying money and it can be established that the payment is only for her companionship and not for sex, do the police have any justification to arrest?

[toban]

Canada's better but changes still need to happen here too.

Unfortunately lookingforlove, while we may be more relaxed than the US re: prostitution matters things are not yet perfect in Canada. Something similar to what you report still can and does happen here in Canada. While as I mentioned in an earlier post, providers in Canada may legally advertise their rates and services but there are some strict restrictions on where and how such advertising may be done. It is those restrictions which trip up some girls but it is mostly potential clients who are caught up in the net.

The Criminal Code of Canada was amended a few years back and in an effort to try to clear up a problem many cities were experiencing with street prostitution a section specifically aimed at fixing that problem was added. This made it a criminal offense to solicit sex in any ?public place?. [The link I've included below identifies the meaning of public place] Theoretically then, even a wink or a whistle on the street could be interpreted as solicitation! It is common in some cities for police to place female undercover officers on the street as decoys and then to arrest and charge those who approach and converse with them. I know - I was so charged!

I live in a small city that has just recently held such a sting operation following which the names of those men charged were publicly released in the news media, as was coverage of their subsequent trials and later sentencing. Some girls later arrested in another separate operation were also publicly identified and forbidden to frequent certain areas of the city. Later, some of those girls, having only been seen on the street in that area, were rearrested, charged and of course publicly identified once again.

Here?s an easy to understand layman?s version of the Criminal Code of Canada as it affects prostitution.
http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/freedom/can_prostitute.txt

[Rockheart]

To me it seems quite easy not to get arrested.

1. Go to an escort that is reputable, that you know is not in cahoots with police.
2. Don't pick up hookers off the street.
3. See the same escort regularly.
4. Keep public interactions to zero unless you are just taking an escort out on a date for dinner and movie or a club. You cannot get busted for a date, men pay for dates all the time.
5. Don't send stuff in emails, texts or anything that can be used as evidence.
6. Don't talk about incriminating evidence on the phone.

For example choose an escort from an internet site that seems to fit your needs.
A known porn star or well reviewed escort is best to choose because there is zero chance they are the police.
Ask them out for coffee or a drink in a private environment, then discuss your thing..
Sure you may have to pay more money up front this way but you are 100% safe.

Cruising around your car horny with $100 in your pocket will get you nothing but trouble.

They can set up escorts to arrest them but I think that it is much harder to set up clients.

Clients mainly get in trouble because:

1. They are cheap
2. They only think with their little head.

[lookingforlove]

Unfortunately lookingforlove, while we may be more relaxed than the US re: prostitution matters things are not yet perfect in Canada. Something similar to what you report still can and does happen here in Canada. While as I mentioned in an earlier post, providers in Canada may legally advertise their rates and services but there are some strict restrictions on where and how such advertising may be done. It is those restrictions which trip up some girls but it is mostly potential clients who are caught up in the net.

The Criminal Code of Canada was amended a few years back and in an effort to try to clear up a problem many cities were experiencing with street prostitution a section specifically aimed at fixing that problem was added. This made it a criminal offense to solicit sex in any ?public place?. [The link I've included below identifies the meaning of public place] Theoretically then, even a wink or a whistle on the street could be interpreted as solicitation! It is common in some cities for police to place female undercover officers on the street as decoys and then to arrest and charge those who approach and converse with them. I know - I was so charged!

I live in a small city that has just recently held such a sting operation following which the names of those men charged were publicly released in the news media, as was coverage of their subsequent trials and later sentencing. Some girls later arrested in another separate operation were also publicly identified and forbidden to frequent certain areas of the city. Later, some of those girls, having only been seen on the street in that area, were rearrested, charged and of course publicly identified once again.

Here?s an easy to understand layman?s version of the Criminal Code of Canada as it affects prostitution.
http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/freedom/can_prostitute.txt

Pretty straightforward although law enforcement sometimes interprets the way they want. So, I would imagine that you can solicit a provider, by email, text, phone, etc. You can discuss what type of sex you want and the fee for the service. You can arrive at the providers home or at a hotel, pay the provider, have sex, and then leave, without worrying very much about being arrested. I don't blame the Canadian authorities for not wanting street or public solicitation and/or sex in public places. But, at least they have their heads on straight as opposed to the fools in authority here in mother America with their draconian 14th century social laws.

[lookingforlove]

To me it seems quite easy not to get arrested.

1. Go to an escort that is reputable, that you know is not in cahoots with police.
2. Don't pick up hookers off the street.
3. See the same escort regularly.
4. Keep public interactions to zero unless you are just taking an escort out on a date for dinner and movie or a club. You cannot get busted for a date, men pay for dates all the time.
5. Don't send stuff in emails, texts or anything that can be used as evidence.
6. Don't talk about incriminating evidence on the phone.

For example choose an escort from an internet site that seems to fit your needs.
A known porn star or well reviewed escort is best to choose because there is zero chance they are the police.
Ask them out for coffee or a drink in a private environment, then discuss your thing..
Sure you may have to pay more money up front this way but you are 100% safe.

Cruising around your car horny with $100 in your pocket will get you nothing but trouble.

They can set up escorts to arrest them but I think that it is much harder to set up clients.

Clients mainly get in trouble because:

1. They are cheap
2. They only think with their little head.

I definitely don't pickup hookers on the street nor do I drive around cruising for sex. I'm an older guy who has a family and thus am very careful what I do and how I do it.

Since I don't frequent prostitutes, on any regular basis, it is somewhat difficult to build a relationship with one provider. Also, many of these providers, especially where I live in the US, come and go like bees in a hive. Here for a few days and then gone somewhere else never to be seen again. I would never meet a provider outside of their home, apartment, or hotel room for sex.

I do like your idea about having the provider meet me at a nice eating place for the first encounter. It's not only the way to "break the ice" so to speak but hopefully you can arrange for what type of sex you want and what the cost will. I would imagine that would be a good time to pay the provider as there would be no witnesses to the transaction, unless of course she was a police person or informant and was wearing a wire. The only problem with meeting in a restaurant for a chat would be the extra cost involved. After all, the provider is being paid by the hour no matter what she is doing with you.

I think that I had read somewhere that the police, at least in the US, cannot arrest you if it's entrapment or if they lie about it. In other words, when you first meet the provider at her place you ask her if she is a member of law enforcement. If she says no and she really is a member of law enforcement, then she is lying. If they then arrest you it's entrapment because they misrepresented themselves.

In my opinion the best scenario is for the provider to come to your house or apartment. That way you know that they have no way to prove anything.

[Rockheart]

I definitely don't pickup hookers on the street nor do I drive around cruising for sex. I'm an older guy who has a family and thus am very careful what I do and how I do it.

Since I don't frequent prostitutes, on any regular basis, it is somewhat difficult to build a relationship with one provider. Also, many of these providers, especially where I live in the US, come and go like bees in a hive. Here for a few days and then gone somewhere else never to be seen again. I would never meet a provider outside of their home, apartment, or hotel room for sex.

I do like your idea about having the provider meet me at a nice eating place for the first encounter. It's not only the way to "break the ice" so to speak but hopefully you can arrange for what type of sex you want and what the cost will. I would imagine that would be a good time to pay the provider as there would be no witnesses to the transaction, unless of course she was a police person or informant and was wearing a wire. The only problem with meeting in a restaurant for a chat would be the extra cost involved. After all, the provider is being paid by the hour no matter what she is doing with you.

I think that I had read somewhere that the police, at least in the US, cannot arrest you if it's entrapment or if they lie about it. In other words, when you first meet the provider at her place you ask her if she is a member of law enforcement. If she says no and she really is a member of law enforcement, then she is lying. If they then arrest you it's entrapment because they misrepresented themselves.

In my opinion the best scenario is for the provider to come to your house or apartment. That way you know that they have no way to prove anything.

Plain and simple if you are not paying the provider for sex, it is not illegal.
Just because you take them for a date on the clock there is nothing illegal about that.
If there was, nobody would go on dates because men are often paying the whole shot.

Of course being safe will cost you more, that is what I am saying.
The cheaper you are the more risk you will take and the more danger of being caught.
Pay for a consultation/meeting and pay for a reputible provider.
Especially if you have a family and are concerned, why would you cheap out?
Cheaping out will just get you in trouble.

SEX FOR MONEY OR SOLICITING SEX FOR MONEY IS REALLY THE ONLY ILLEGAL THING FOR CLIENTS.
Escorts are people too they go out to bars, restaurants and shopping like everyone else.
Just because you are with an escort does not mean you are committing a crime.
How does anyone know that you are not their brother, father, friend, boyfriend, butler, assistant etc. etc.
Associating with an escort is not a crime.

What I am saying is if you fear the police find an escort that is not transient.
If they have been in business many years and have many good reviews they are not going to be working with the police.
As I say, known pornstars or well know escorts are the best choice.

Generally the police do not use escorts with wires to entrap clients.
They either post fake ads which you may respond to, or they put decoys on the street.
I have never heard of escorts with a wire, unless they are actually a police officer.
The charge of soliciting is just not a large enough offense for them to bargain or ask them to work with police.

In the case of drugs or something like that, yes they will use suspects with wires to get kingpins.
But seriously wiring an escort to catch a couple clients is a complete waste of their time.
Putting up a fake escort ad will bag them far more johns for less work.

As far as entrapment goes,
My understanding is police can lie to you all they want with no repercussions.
If you are involved in illegal activity, you forfeit any rights you may think you have.

I would think if they come to your house, they can prove everything.
Your own hotel room is a much safer option.

The only safe thing is choosing the right provider carefully by doing your research.
Do be willing to pay for you safety, as I say, cheapness is the downfall of most clients.

[toban]

But hooking up can be very difficult in most areas of both countries!

Crag, what you have recommended earlier below is indeed excellent, very sensible advice for most to keep in mind. It is especially good advice for those who may be preyed upon by the eager beavers in American LE and it may probably work as well for those of us Canadians fortunate enough to live in a locality which has an abundance of delectable escorts like those found in major cities such as Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver et al.. Unfortunately, most of us don't!

There are so many localities in the wide expanses of this country that have neither GG escorts nor even an agency and there are far, far fewer localities in this country (one of which I currently live in) with even one TGirl escort let alone a selection from which to choose. Large cities may be well served but the reality is that TGirls don't exist in the majority of locations in US and Canada. In underserved areas potential clients of GG escorts, not wishing to use the services of the Palm Sisters may often have no choice but to resort to making choices which may sometimes end up in their entanglement with LE. Potential clients of Tgirl escorts are essentially SOL unless they are willing to travel though travelling girls may very occasionally stop in some of the larger small centers.

It is because of this serious lack of TGirl escorts in Northern Ontario that I became well known to the cabin crews of Air Canada Jazz while flying down to see the fine Tgirls of Toronto.

[Rockheart]

Crag, what you have recommended earlier below is indeed excellent, very sensible advice for most to keep in mind. It is especially good advice for those who may be preyed upon by the eager beavers in American LE and it may probably work as well for those of us Canadians fortunate enough to live in a locality which has an abundance of delectable escorts like those found in major cities such as Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver et al.. Unfortunately, most of us don't!

There are so many localities in the wide expanses of this country that have neither GG escorts nor even an agency and there are far, far fewer localities in this country (one of which I currently live in) with even one TGirl escort. Large cities may be well served but the reality is that TGirls don't exist in the majority of locations in US and Canada. In underserved areas potential clients of GG escorts, not wishing to use the services of the Palm Sisters may often have no choice but to resort to making choices which may sometimes end up in their entanglement with LE. Potential clients of Tgirl escorts are essentially SOL unless they are willing to travel though travelling girls may very occasionally stop in some of the larger small centers.

It is because of this serious lack of TGirl escorts in Northern Ontario that I became well known to the cabin crews of Air Canada Jazz while flying down to see the fine Tgirls of Toronto.

If you live in a small place and you value your discretion, you should travel to the big city for your jollies.
There is more anonymity and if you get into legal trouble, less chance people back home will find out.

There is no doubt most men have made stupid decisions because of momentary horniness,
but when you know your life could be ruined for a 15 minutes of fun is it really worth it?

I think a trip to Thailand would cure most men of their need for a desperate, possibly illegal tryst back home.
Toronto is great but there is still the stigma in our society and there is still some legalities around escorts.
Truly in Thailand being with Tgirls is just a breeze.
No stigmas, no laws and little danger.
You merely need to worry about their age and protecting yourself from disease.

Not saying there is anything wrong with Canadian Tgirls, they are great,
But choosing anyone out of desperation or cheapness, is never good.
Save your money and do it safe.

[cooldude]

There have been a few occassions in the past when I went to a GG where I was afraid it might be a police officer but I always got them to flash me a titty before any conversation. A police officer will not do this. The problem is the conversation. Who starts the talk about money for what kind of service. If you are picking someone off the street the only way to make sure she is not a cop you have to ask her if she wants to do some "nude modelling" for you in exchange for some cash. There is nothing illegal about that. Then once her clothes are off you are home free. BTW a police officer does not have to tell you that she are a cop if you ask her. She is undercover. That is like a cop infiltrating the mob and all his testimony is thrown out because he did not admit he was a cop when they asked.

[Shyla Wild]

Luckily for you.....

There have been a few occassions in the past when I went to a GG where I was afraid it might be a police officer but I always got them to flash me a titty before any conversation. A police officer will not do this. The problem is the conversation. Who starts the talk about money for what kind of service. If you are picking someone off the street the only way to make sure she is not a cop you have to ask her if she wants to do some "nude modelling" for you in exchange for some cash. There is nothing illegal about that. Then once her clothes are off you are home free. BTW a police officer does not have to tell you that she are a cop if you ask her. She is undercover. That is like a cop infiltrating the mob and all his testimony is thrown out because he did not admit he was a cop when they asked.

The Law:
Undercover Police Officers

The majority of case law states that a police officer does not have to identify himself or herself if asked, ?Are you a cop?? or ?Are you undercover?? The police only have to identify themselves once they start an arrest. Also, a police officer IS allowed to sexually touch a prostitute if it is in fulfilment of the officer?s duty. So, if a prostitute asks a potential john to touch her sexually and he does, that does not guarantee that he is not a police officer.

[Rockheart]

The Law:
Undercover Police Officers

The majority of case law states that a police officer does not have to identify himself or herself if asked, ?Are you a cop?? or ?Are you undercover?? The police only have to identify themselves once they start an arrest. Also, a police officer IS allowed to sexually touch a prostitute if it is in fulfilment of the officer?s duty. So, if a prostitute asks a potential john to touch her sexually and he does, that does not guarantee that he is not a police officer.

In Minneapolis I read the escorts require you to kiss their bare genitals before any transaction occurs.
Most cops won't do this, although some may I suppose.
It is probably over the line I would think.

[dom r]

WHY is paying for sex illegal? Is it because it may spread diseases? If thats the case what of all the billions of people who have sex outside a marriage where no money is exchanged, they are also at risk but its legal. A man can legally pay for a massage but if she massages his cock all of a sudden its illegal? THATS BULLSHIT. I think its more like a government thats in control of people and writing laws that violate our rights and freedoms. Its legal if billions of lesbian women have sex with other women,heteros with heteors, gays with gays but if one of them gets paid for it all of a sudden its illegal? That doesnt make sense.

What if a guy is meeting with a female or shemale escort or prostitute to have sex for the fun of it? He gives her oral she cums then he ficks her without paying her. Thats legal right? Ok what if the woman tells him she needs cash to buy groceries and he gives it to her NOT because they had sex a minute prior but because she asked him and he wanted to do her a favor. Would that be illegal? It shouldnt be because isnt that how most boyfriend girlfriend relationships/marriages are? They have sex then the man gives her money not because they had sex but because she needed it. This 1 factor alone should not allow police to arrest men when seeing a prostitute or escort.

The government and law makers need to end their control on people and allow us to make our own choices, we are not the government's slaves, they should not decide for us. Its more like a government who wants a cut in the sales. They do these sting operations to arrest and have men pay fines so they can act as pimps to get their share. They should just bud the F out. Although if the government truly want to help, why dont they invent/provide home testing kits to test for aids and other diseases where the person can find the results in seconds? Finally they would be of help instead of acting like people enslaving others by not allowing them to make their own choices and then arresting them so they can get a cut in the sales like some over powered slave drivers. A man wants to suck a pretty girl cock and then pay her? Its not their ficking business. We dont tell them they HAVE TO pay for sex then they should not tell us we can't.........errr sorry for getting a bit pissed.

[Shyla Wild]

WHY is paying for sex illegal?

What if a guy is meeting with a female or shemale escort or prostitute to have sex for the fun of it?

The answer to your question has nothing to do with point of view or reason. It has to do with the difference in these two questions you asked. Money. The government doesn't care about the reason behind it. Here is what the government sees. The government sees a business transaction where no taxes were collected and the only way to get a sales report is on her word. There is no inventory, no employee and now they have to figure out a way to get their cut. Until they figure out a way to get more money from legalization than they do from arrests, fines, bail, etc it will remain illegal in your region. Now thing about the money that the Mob will lose. Remember them? They probably stand to lose the most from the legalization of prostitution. Do you really think they are just going to roll over on this one?

This is a capitalist society. A consumer driven society. Money makes Laws today, not reason.

[toban]

It is all the Church's fault

I don’t know much about whether the Mafia would have that much affect on or after the legalization of the sex trade but the real reason for all of the many restrictions in our law on each and every thing of a sexual nature that dom r is concerned about, is that hundreds of years ago the CHURCH had great influence over the governments of the day in many countries. Therefore governments then wrote such legislation as forbid its citizens to entertain any kind of behaviour that was in opposition to the teachings of the Church and the Bible.

Since both our Canadian and American law is derived from ancient English law both countries are stuck with those stupid Church-pleasing regulations involving such as adultery, fornication, buggery, prostitution, gambling etc., etc. that tend to take all the fun out of life if we follow them as our laws demand we do.

Among those ancient British laws we have still retained in Canadian law is that crazy old Bawdy House law dating back even before Shakespearean times in England. To give you an idea of how irrelevant some of our laws are I've added some historical quotes below that are relative to this particular law:


bawdy-house - Bouvier's Law Dictionary, Revised 6th Ed (1856)
BAWDY-HOUSE, crim. law. A house of ill-fame, (q. v.) kept for the resort and unlawful commerce of lewd people of both sexes.
2. Such a house is a common nuisance, as it endangers the public peace by drawing together dissolute and debauched persons; and tends to corrupt both sexes by an open profession of lewdness. 1 Russ. on Cr.; 299: Bac. Ab.
Nuisances, A; Hawk. B. 1, c. 74, Sec. 1-5.
3. The keeper of such a house may be indicted for the nuisance; and a
married woman, because such houses are generally kept by the female sex, may
be indicted with her husband for keeping such a house. 1 Salk. 383; vide
Dane's Ab. Index, h. t. One who assists in establishing a bawdyhouse is
guilty of a misdemeanor. 2 B. Monroe, 417.

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In R. v. Rogier, - - - - - - For example, in R. v. Higginson , it was held that a house is disorderly if persons resort there for such illegal practices as "fighting of cocks, boxing, playing at cudgels and misbehaving themselves ... ".

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The keeping of a bawdy?house comes under the cognizance of the temporal law as a common nuisance. not only in respect of its endangering the public peace by drawing together dissolute and debauched person and promoting quarrels, but also in respect of its tendency to corrupt the manners of the people. by an open profession of lewdness. '

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According to Coke's Institutes. the keeping of such a house “is against
the law of God, on which the common law of England in that case is
Grounded” Such an act was a common nuisance punishable by the
common law, as it was "the cause of many mischiefs, not only to the
overthrow of the bodies, and wasting of their livelyhoods, but to the
indangering of their soules'

In the event anybody should be interested in more of the same here is the URL for the above quotes:


http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...TZHOI33ZGw-nbw

P.S. 1 The URL above doesn't seem to copy correctly - PM me if you really want it!

P.S. 2 Here is an interesting scene in an old English Bawdy House

[Shyla Wild]

I will totally agree with you concerning outdated Laws that have been twisted over the times. Because of that Bawdy House Law, girls in Quebec can be arrested for working from their homes.

You asked how much influence the Mafia would have in this....let me show you.

Craigslist sex trafficking, offshore Internet gambling, and wind energy. Sure, the Mafia still traffics heroin, extorts businesses, and kills people. But today's gangster?like any good venture capitalist?has adapted to the times. It's not that the Mob is necessarily branching into new industries. It's just that they've pushed age-old breadwinners?prostitution, gambling, and money laundering?to new levels (or depths) in order to compete in an increasingly globalized economy.
In a crowded industry like prostitution, you have to put the customer first. Last April, members of the Gambino family?one of five major New York crime families whose members were handcuffed by the feds on Thursday?were charged with interstate sex trafficking. (That was a first for the Mafia.) The gangsters are alleged to have recruited young women as prostitutes, advertised on Craigslist, driven them to appointments across New York and New Jersey, and then kept half of the proceeds. They are also said to have made the girls available at weekly high-stakes poker games. Dubbed "a new low" by the feds, the endeavor underscored increasing Internet use by organized crime.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...n_mafiosi.html

That is an interesting read.

I don?t know much about whether the Mafia would have that much affect on or after the legalization of the sex trade but the real reason for all of the many restrictions in our law on each and every thing of a sexual nature is that hundreds of years ago the CHURCH had great influence over the governments of the day in many countries. Therefore governments then wrote such legislation as forbid its citizens to entertain any kind of behaviour that was in opposition to the teachings of the Church and the Bible.

Since both our Canadian and American law is derived from ancient English law both countries are stuck with those stupid Church-pleasing regulations involving such as adultery, fornication, buggery, prostitution, gambling etc., etc. that tend to take all the fun out of life if we follow them as our laws demand we do.

Among those ancient British laws we have still retained in Canadian law is that crazy old Bawdy House law dating back even before Shakespearean times in England. To give you an idea of how irrelevant some of our laws are I've added some historical quotes below that are relative to this particular law:


bawdy-house - Bouvier's Law Dictionary, Revised 6th Ed (1856)
BAWDY-HOUSE, crim. law. A house of ill-fame, (q. v.) kept for the resort and unlawful commerce of lewd people of both sexes.
2. Such a house is a common nuisance, as it endangers the public peace by drawing together dissolute and debauched persons; and tends to corrupt both sexes by an open profession of lewdness. 1 Russ. on Cr.; 299: Bac. Ab.
Nuisances, A; Hawk. B. 1, c. 74, Sec. 1-5.
3. The keeper of such a house may be indicted for the nuisance; and a
married woman, because such houses are generally kept by the female sex, may
be indicted with her husband for keeping such a house. 1 Salk. 383; vide
Dane's Ab. Index, h. t. One who assists in establishing a bawdyhouse is
guilty of a misdemeanor. 2 B. Monroe, 417.

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In R. v. Rogier, - - - - - - For example, in R. v. Higginson , it was held that a house is disorderly if persons resort there for such illegal practices as "fighting of cocks, boxing, playing at cudgels and misbehaving themselves ... ".

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The keeping of a bawdy?house comes under the cognizance of the temporallaw as a common nuisance. not only in respect of itsendangering the publicpeace by drawing together dissolute and debauched person and promotingquarrels, but also in respect of its tendency to corrupt the manners of thepeople. by an open profession of lewdness. '

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According to Coke's Institutes. the keeping of such a house ?is against
the law of God, on which the common law of England in that case is
Grounded? Such an act was a common nuisance punishable by the
common law, as it was "the cause of many mischiefs, not only to the
overthrow of the bodies, and wasting of their livelyhoods, but to the
indangering of their soules'

In the event anybody should be interested in more of the same here is the URL for the above quotes:


http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...TZHOI33ZGw-nbw