Don't kill the internet with your Mobile device

[Rockheart]

Did you know that when you are using your iphone and other mobile devices you are contributing to the end of the free internet?

Well it is true.

Every time you use an "APP" on your smartphone to access Facebook or Youtube or any other internet site.

Do you wonder why your browser on an Iphone or Ipad cannot display many web sites properly?
Because they want you to use an APP instead.
Soon when everyone is on APPs they will start charging you for the APP and probably make the Website unavailable without an APP. Your need for APPs is pure brainwashing.

Imagine when Apple and other companies sell the internet like cable packages.

What was wrong with everything working in your web browser?
Nothing!

If you get caught up in the APP world then people like me feel like they have to format their websites for every single mobile device out there. Soon there will be thousands of devices, it is just a cash grab for developers, coming out of your pocket.

Well I refuse to format my sites for every device, that is crazy.
That is killing the internet.
I keep my sites simple so they work in browsers on all devices, this also means i don't need multiple mobile versions and Ipad versions.
This is one of the reasons I support Blackberry because they don't buy into the APP frenzy.
They build internet browsers that can work on any site.
Blackberry Playbooks are $150 at Best Buy, get one!
Best deal on earth.

Save the internet and your money, don't let Apple pick your pocket.

Keep the internet free!

[Lani]

Did you know that when you are using your iphone and other mobile devices you are contributing to the end of the free internet?

Well it is true.

Every time you use an "APP" on your smartphone to access Facebook or Youtube or any other internet site.

Do you wonder why your browser on an Iphone or Ipad cannot display many web sites properly?
Because they want you to use an APP instead.
Soon when everyone is on APPs they will start charging you for the APP and probably make the Website unavailable without an APP. Your need for APPs is pure brainwashing.

Imagine when Apple and other companies sell the internet like cable packages.

What was wrong with everything working in your web browser?
Nothing!

If you get caught up in the APP world then people like me feel like they have to format their websites for every single mobile device out there. Soon there will be thousands of devices, it is just a cash grab for developers, coming out of your pocket.

Well I refuse to format my sites for every device, that is crazy.
That is killing the internet.
I keep my sites simple so they work in browsers on all devices, this also means i don't need multiple mobile versions and Ipad versions.
This is one of the reasons I support Blackberry because they don't buy into the APP frenzy.
They build internet browsers that can work on any site.
Blackberry Playbooks are $150 at Best Buy, get one!
Best deal on earth.

Save the internet and your money, don't let Apple pick your pocket.

Keep the internet free!

So you're saying... It's more ideal for mankind to type than to tap?

[Shyla Wild]

Imagine when Apple and other companies sell the internet like cable packages.

1 word - Jailbreak.

Here's what Jailbreaking an Apple TV does....

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/01...reak-apple-tv/

There's a Jailbreak for every type of Apple device worth hacking. The software is another issue as some versions are still un-hacked.

Keep the internet free!

In my opinion that is what jailbreaking does. It takes the freedom away from Apple. Cydia is pretty sick, Installous and Hackulous are just....well evil.

[Rockheart]

1 word - Jailbreak.

Here's what Jailbreaking an Apple TV does....

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/01...reak-apple-tv/

There's a Jailbreak for every type of Apple device worth hacking. The software is another issue as some versions are still un-hacked.



In my opinion that is what jailbreaking does. It takes the freedom away from Apple. Cydia is pretty sick, Installous and Hackulous are just....well evil.

Jailbreak just means you may be able to get free "cable".
It just means you are stealing from Apple and the developers that make the APPs.
Beside, just because you get an APP for free doesn't mean you will get the content for free.

However that will not help the internet.
Jailbreaking allows you to use apps which are the evilness I speak of.
It does not help you use the internet from your phone.

What happens if you cannot jailbreak devices?

What I am saying is why does every single website need it's own APP?
That goes against the idea of the internet.

[Rockheart]

So you're saying... It's more ideal for mankind to type than to tap?

Actually it has nothing to do the the Human-computer interface.
Tapping or typing is just how you interface with your device.

No I am saying when you use a PC, you use an Internet browser to go to web sites.
Usually you use the same web browser (the same program/app) for all sites.

On a smart phone, especially Iphone, you access a majority of websites through APPs.
YouTube, Facebook, google, The new york times and most big websites have APPs to now connect to these websites.
So in essence, on an iphone or other smartphone you are using a different program for each website.

The idea of the internet was that you were supposed to be able to get to ALL websites with ONE program (or App)
Smartphones are making the internet more complicated and ultimately more expensive.
One program for each site or company.

People actually pay for APPs that are free in a browser.
This make no sense.

As I said, many websites do not work in the iPhone or Ipad web browser.
On a Blackberry most websites still work in the web browser.

[Shyla Wild]

It has to do with Adobe Flash. Apple does not permit it on handhelds

[Lani]

There's one I couldn't open....

As I said, many websites do not work in the iPhone or Ipad web browser.
On a Blackberry most websites still work in the web browser.

Yeah, must be the adobe flash (As Shyla mentioned).
There is just one website that I used to browse in my laptop, but couldn't open in my iPhone, nor my iPod before...The Louis Vuitton.com... lol!

I know, you can say it.... I'm shallow hahahaha!

[Shyla Wild]

Oops .... I was wrong. You can get flash on an iPhone. Google: flash iPhone. Skyfire is the easy solution.

My Atrix committed suicide recently and jumped into the toilet. So I realized that owning a phone that is impossible to get in Canada is a waste. I'm back to iPhone.

[Shyla Wild]

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Why_Apple_...lash_on_iPhone

Why Apple Won't Allow Adobe Flash on iPhone



By Brian X. Chen (Wired News)
Don't hold your breath waiting for the iPhone to support Adobe's Flash software: Apple's terms-of-service agreement prohibits it.
Although Adobe says it is working on a version of its popular Flash player for the iPhone, Apple is unlikely ever to permit it to appear in the handset's App Store, no matter how much customers want it.
"I'm pretty skeptical that Flash could be implemented in a way that doesn't violate the Terms of Service of the developer's agreement," said Bart Decrem, CEO of Tapulous, developer of the popular Tap Tap Revenge iPhone game.
Flash is Adobe's highly popular platform for displaying interactive graphics, animations and multimedia within a browser. According to Adobe, 98 percent of desktop computers currently support Flash, which has led to its widespread use by web developers. Adobe's recent announcement that it is working on a version of Flash for Windows Mobile has prompted speculation that an iPhone version might be coming soon. But the speculators may be waiting in vain, based on Apple's TOS and the company's history of tightly controlling applications for its smartphone platform.
Allowing Flash — which is a development platform of its own — would just be too dangerous for Apple, a company that enjoys exerting total dominance over its hardware and the software that runs on it. Flash has evolved from being a mere animation player into a multimedia platform capable of running applications of its own. That means Flash would open a new door for application developers to get their software onto the iPhone: Just code them in Flash and put them on a web page. In so doing, Flash would divert business from the App Store, as well as enable publishers to distribute music, videos and movies that could compete with the iTunes Store.
Apple's well aware of these problems, which is why the company wrote a clause in its iPhone developers' Terms of Service agreement (.pdf) that prohibits Flash from appearing on the iPhone:
"An Application may not itself install or launch other executable code by any means, including without limitation through the use of a plug-in architecture, calling other frameworks, other APIs or otherwise," reads clause 3.3.2 of the iPhone SDK agreement, which was recently published on WikiLeaks. "No interpreted code may be downloaded and used in an Application except for code that is interpreted and run by Apple's Published APIs and built-in interpreter(s)."
This could come as major disappointment to iPhone owners, as the lack of Flash support has been a paramount complaint about the handset since its release. No Flash means that the iPhone browser is incapable of displaying a large portion of the internet. For example, free Flash games aren't supported, videos can't be streamed from the vastly popular television and movie site Hulu, and websites that use Flash to render content or navigation won't work on the iPhone.
It's no wonder Adobe is expressing reluctance about the prospects of Flash for iPhone. The company on Monday demonstrated a version of Flash for Windows Mobile handsets. And all that product manager Michele Turner could say about iPhone was, "We are working on Flash on the iPhone, but it is really up to Apple."
Adam Dann, CEO of Nullriver, agrees that Flash would take away some of Apple's control. Apple eventually banned Nullriver's application NetShare because it violated AT&T Terms of Service agreement by turning the iPhone into a wireless modem for tethering. If Apple introduced Flash to iPhone, it's possible Nullriver could code a Flash version of NetShare, repeating that violation, Dann said.
Dann added that the only way Flash could ever appear on the iPhone is if Adobe offered an extremely stripped-down version of the software. But even if there is a "Flash Lite" for iPhone, that just reinforces the point that the handset's owners still will not have a true Flash experience.
And aside from taking software control away from Apple, Flash would introduce a slew of other potential headaches as well. Flash apps could hurt battery life, suck up the graphics-processing unit's power, use an inordinate amount of memory, or potentially introduce security risks. Apple has plenty of customer complaints to address about the iPhone; the last thing it needs is to add Adobe and Flash to the pile.
In August, Britain's Advertising Standards Authority pulled an iPhone advertisement because the commercial said, "All the parts of the internet are on the iPhone." The lack of Flash and Java support on iPhone were enough for the ad to be deemed misleading. And it's looking like Apple won't be able to air that ad again.
Apple did not return phone calls for comment.

[Rockheart]

Yes Iphones and Ipad browsers have not supported flash and some other stuff too.

It could have but they never bothered, cause they want to hook everyone on APPs.

Blackberry has supported flash for years and I am pretty sure the Windows phones will have a good browser.

Blackberry has less apps and Windows phone has very few.

The next idea is to make all websites in HTML 5 but Apple won't support that either I bet.
HTML 5 will put forward a standard replacement for flash that won't be a plugin.

So in future if a site is built properly in HTML5 it will work in most all browsers, except maybe Apple.

[Rockheart]

Yeah, must be the adobe flash (As Shyla mentioned).
There is just one website that I used to browse in my laptop, but couldn't open in my iPhone, nor my iPod before...The Louis Vuitton.com... lol!

I know, you can say it.... I'm shallow hahahaha!

See!

Now you need the Louis Vuitton App.

Bogus I say.

You should be able to just go there.

This is also why I have always told everyone not to use a bunch of flash on their website.

[sniperki]

Thanks!

Great words of wisdom from crag! Apple Nazis!