I see lots of girls traveling across the praires and hitting Regina, saskatoon and hoping over winnipeg and staight to Toronto or Alberta. Just wondering why very few stop in winnipeg. Is it too slow with few customers.
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Costs vs Profit Ratio
Let me show you a little instead info: This is my last tour profit margins. You figure out what happened.
Toronto:
600% vs investment
Vancouver:
350% vs investment (Largest travel cost***)
Calgary:
650% vs investment
Reddeer:
300% vs investment
Edmonton:
500% vs investment
Fort McMurray:
450% vs investment
Winnipeg
50% vs investment
High travel costs vs unwillingness to handle 300hr rates. Less hassles in other cities, and less chance of losing money. I heard from another girl not to go there(Winnipeg) and I didn't listen. Amongst the girls that travel; we do talk. We are very aware of the good and weak cities to travel to. Well word has spread that it is better to jump from Toronto and land in either Regina, Calgary or Vancouver and to avoid Winnipeg. Or to jump from Calgary, Vancouver, Regina and skip Winnipeg and land in either Toronto or in Our case Montreal.
It will cost about 400 to fly to Winnipeg. Plus hotel. Two nights will cost about 400. 800....can you tell me that if we landed there we could double our investment? No. But for the same 400 I can fly home and relax. Girls end up making the same choice except they land in Toronto....which there is no way you can compete with Toronto for income...or Calgary, Edmonton or Vancouver.
That is the complicated version.
What really happens:
Most girls look in their wallet at the Airport. They count their money and think "That's it!"....Followed by, "Fuck this shit, never again."Shyla Wild
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Look at this way. It's up to you guys to fix this. There is quite a few Winnipeg guys on these forums. When a girl comes to town...go see her. Pay the 300hr and make her want to come back...Look at it this way. If there is 10 guys from Winnipeg on this forum. If all ten of you go see her that is 3000 over 2 days. 800 investment of her part and a 375%-400% profit margin. That is respectable .Last edited by Shyla Wild; 10-18-2012, 12:59 PM.Shyla Wild
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I guess I'll have to accept the fact that winnipeg just isn't a big enough market for traveling Tgirls. Everybody here seems to be a cheapskate and doesn't realize we live in the middle of nowhere.
Might as well be living in Nunavut.
Actually, to be fair, the activity varies too much here. Several months can pass with few visits, and then a bunch of hotties will show up nearly at once in the span of a few weeks. So we're probably just going through a dry spell right now.Last edited by bb420; 10-23-2012, 10:32 AM.
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I don't agree
Originally posted by Shyla Wild View PostCosts vs Profit Ratio
Let me show you a little instead info: This is my last tour profit margins. You figure out what happened.
Toronto:
600% vs investment
Vancouver:
350% vs investment (Largest travel cost***)
Calgary:
650% vs investment
Reddeer:
300% vs investment
Edmonton:
500% vs investment
Fort McMurray:
450% vs investment
Winnipeg
50% vs investment
High travel costs vs unwillingness to handle 300hr rates. Less hassles in other cities, and less chance of losing money. I heard from another girl not to go there(Winnipeg) and I didn't listen. Amongst the girls that travel; we do talk. We are very aware of the good and weak cities to travel to. Well word has spread that it is better to jump from Toronto and land in either Regina, Calgary or Vancouver and to avoid Winnipeg. Or to jump from Calgary, Vancouver, Regina and skip Winnipeg and land in either Toronto or in Our case Montreal.
It will cost about 400 to fly to Winnipeg. Plus hotel. Two nights will cost about 400. 800....can you tell me that if we landed there we could double our investment? No. But for the same 400 I can fly home and relax. Girls end up making the same choice except they land in Toronto....which there is no way you can compete with Toronto for income...or Calgary, Edmonton or Vancouver.
That is the complicated version.
What really happens:
Most girls look in their wallet at the Airport. They count their money and think "That's it!"....Followed by, "Fuck this shit, never again."
I love Winnipeg and I will travel there again next summer.
Sunshinewww.ts-sunshine.ca You may find many copies of my style around but I am proud to be an original. If you want a beautiful shemale, I'm your girl.
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Originally posted by Shyla Wild View PostCosts vs Profit Ratio
High travel costs vs unwillingness to handle 300hr rates. Less hassles in other cities, and less chance of losing money.Originally posted by sunshine View PostYour profit margin is just that, YOUR profit margin.
My only complaints are that there are many players who call just to make trouble and there are some dangerous clients there.
It is far to travel so I don't go too often.
On the upside, the prairies are beautiful and the roads are good during summer.
I love Winnipeg and I will travel there again next summer.
Sunshine
But you also have to understand the starting point. Girls traveling from east cities by plane prefer to land in other cities due to costs. It's almost the same price to fly to Vancouver, Calgary or Edmonton if you are taking off from Pearson.
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I understand although I don't agree
Originally posted by Shyla Wild View PostI totally agree that my profit ratio are only that. My profit ratio. It does not represent a trend for no one other than myself. If you look at the other points with both make, it does look as though we agree on some things. The distance being the main point that we both seem to agree on. You are obviously more appealing to Winnipeg than I am, not really a surprise there. You are beautiful and hold yourself with a lot of class. I didn't do well and hence my decision not to go back. Win some...lose some.
But you also have to understand the starting point. Girls traveling from east cities by plane prefer to land in other cities due to costs. It's almost the same price to fly to Vancouver, Calgary or Edmonton if you are taking off from Pearson.
Shy
As a matter of fact, if you let me know when, I might be able to help you. I'd love to present you to some of my regulars. You're a smart, friendly girl and I'm sure they'd like to meet you.
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Originally posted by sunshine View PostWe've never met but I've seen your pictures and a client of mine who saw you said you are a beautiful girl and a nice person. As for Winnipeg, maybe you had an off experience but I don't think it's representative of the city or your value. Believe me, I understand what it's like to get a luke-warm reception, especially when people pre-book you. It's a bitch to spend money on travel and hotel and to come up short at the end of the trip. I've had those experiences too. I've also announced I would never again visit certain cities for similar reasons. I do understand. I just think you should give Winnipeg another try, especially if you are on tour and it isn't too far from your other destinations.
As a matter of fact, if you let me know when, I might be able to help you. I'd love to present you to some of my regulars. You're a smart, friendly girl and I'm sure they'd like to meet you.
Sunshine
Thank you so much. I may just have to take you up on that offer, and perhaps I'll give Winnipeg another try in May. Thank you again for the kind words. I have said this before but when compliments come from your peers those words are much more meaningful. Thank you again.
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Winnipeg
Shyla, I do hope you change your mind and cum back to Winnipeg. I wanted so badly to see you last time you were here and things just didn't work out. I agree with Winnipeg being either feast or famine. No girls and then 3-4 in a week. Neither my wallet or my cock can handle it. I just hope that when, if, you return, I have the nerve to try your "weapon of ass destruction"
And speaking of weapons of ass destruction, I can't wait for Sunshine's return. I have no idea how your weapon compares to Shyla but you were magnificent.
Ladies, I know Winnipeggers are known to be cheap and want a deal but I can assure you we are quite prepared to open our wallets for quality. Shyla, I know just by reading your reviews and your own posts you are 5 stars. As for you, Sunshine, I personally give you 5 stars.
Now all you connoisseurs of beautiful ladies, continue this post and convince Shyla, and any others who have written off Winnipeg to return. I know I will treat you like royalty
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Ts Lavinia Brazil aka Ts Mafyra Milione and my own experiences in Winn.
I would like to add my own experience visiting Winnipeg.
I first visit Winn Nov 2011, when i come to Canada for the 1st time on tour.
I come to winnipeg and stay in a hotel by the airport, nice hotel , cosy and comfortable , very discrete too.
I was in town for 3 days , witch two of then wore the weekend days.
I must say i was very , very happy with the outcome of my trip there .
Good clients and good profit in the end $$$$$ and take in consideration i was visiting during a severe snow storm there.
From Winn i continue on my tour and about a month later i decide to come back there for 2 week days this time.
That experience was a bit different . Lots of guys calling and asking for discount and to lower my rater ( $200,00 1/2h $300 1h and $600 facial vip), witch I do never do , cus I strongly believe I'm a great provider who always strive to my hardest to provide a unique memorable experience , and I do believe what i ask as per donation , is reasonable and fair and reflects the experience I'm willing to offer.
The trip was not bad financially in the end of the two days, however it was very annoying and stressful dealing with guys begging for discount and simply just hanging up my face after i said "NO DISCOUNT ".
Off to USA, couple of months go by and I come back for a shorter tour this time.
I advertise for Winn way ahead , lots of emails , notes here on the forum and also many phone calls. i was certain that it was going to be a sucess. The weather was starting to get nice and as i do believe , when it gets hot outside guys get hot on the inside. LOL
I come for 2 days again, this time staying at downtown hotel.
Very , very slow and just a bunch , but I mean a BUNCH of players, guys calling booking and never showing up.
In fact I had the same person contacting me from different numbers , booking me and again , never showing up.
: (
Very upsetting when one take what we do as for a joke.
This is not a joke , and I'm sure like me many of the girls out there on this escorting industry , have lots of responsibility and families to take care of , as i do back in South America.
However my trip was saved from one of my dearest sub reg , mr "M" ( i miss you babe) he came for a 3 hours dom session , and that was a lot of fun . He was happy and i even give him my panties as a souvenir in the end .
Thats how generous i can be .
LOL
The next eve i was invited to come visit a traveler gentlemen who was staying in a hotel outside downtown . Two hours outcall to his hotel $1,000 , awesome , my day was saved.
Next morning i take off and i was happy with the outcome , specially taking in consideration I used my free nights earned from hotels.com .
During this last tour I went to Winn again for 2 days.
I must say that was a waste of time. I'll not get into much details, I will only say that one of my costumers brought with him a knife , just as a joke , according to him , to show me how much risk I'm at when exposing my self like that and opening my doors to anyone.
Stupid joke , in my opinion .
Me as well all the girls out there are well ware of the chances and risks we are taking when doing escort working.
I just want to share my experiences with you all, and say that sometimes one place can be fabulous and the same place not as good in a different time or to a different provider.
I agree with both , Shyla and Sunshine and i must add that different times of the year do influence on the outcome of a visit to certain locations.
I wish you both best of the best and safe travels, lot's of success and lots of blessings.
Much love to you all.
Ts L.B aka Ts M.M
ps: Sunshine you bad girl LOL
I called you twice while visiting Calgary , wondering if you wold like to grab dinner as suggested by you back in the days here on the forum , and sadly never heard from you .
Hopefully you are are still willing to meet up and make friendship and was just too busy those past two times i was in town.
I'll be back in April , and hopefully then we can get to meet.
xoxoxoTs Brazilian Goddess
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Ooops, sorry
Originally posted by TsLaviniaBrazil View PostI would like to add my own experience visiting Winnipeg.
I first visit Winn Nov 2011, when i come to Canada for the 1st time on tour.
I come to winnipeg and stay in a hotel by the airport, nice hotel , cosy and comfortable , very discrete too.
I was in town for 3 days , witch two of then wore the weekend days.
I must say i was very , very happy with the outcome of my trip there .
Good clients and good profit in the end $$$$$ and take in consideration i was visiting during a severe snow storm there.
From Winn i continue on my tour and about a month later i decide to come back there for 2 week days this time.
That experience was a bit different . Lots of guys calling and asking for discount and to lower my rater ( $200,00 1/2h $300 1h and $600 facial vip), witch I do never do , cus I strongly believe I'm a great provider who always strive to my hardest to provide a unique memorable experience , and I do believe what i ask as per donation , is reasonable and fair and reflects the experience I'm willing to offer.
The trip was not bad financially in the end of the two days, however it was very annoying and stressful dealing with guys begging for discount and simply just hanging up my face after i said "NO DISCOUNT ".
Off to USA, couple of months go by and I come back for a shorter tour this time.
I advertise for Winn way ahead , lots of emails , notes here on the forum and also many phone calls. i was certain that it was going to be a sucess. The weather was starting to get nice and as i do believe , when it gets hot outside guys get hot on the inside. LOL
I come for 2 days again, this time staying at downtown hotel.
Very , very slow and just a bunch , but I mean a BUNCH of players, guys calling booking and never showing up.
In fact I had the same person contacting me from different numbers , booking me and again , never showing up.
: (
Very upsetting when one take what we do as for a joke.
This is not a joke , and I'm sure like me many of the girls out there on this escorting industry , have lots of responsibility and families to take care of , as i do back in South America.
However my trip was saved from one of my dearest sub reg , mr "M" ( i miss you babe) he came for a 3 hours dom session , and that was a lot of fun . He was happy and i even give him my panties as a souvenir in the end .
Thats how generous i can be .
LOL
The next eve i was invited to come visit a traveler gentlemen who was staying in a hotel outside downtown . Two hours outcall to his hotel $1,000 , awesome , my day was saved.
Next morning i take off and i was happy with the outcome , specially taking in consideration I used my free nights earned from hotels.com .
During this last tour I went to Winn again for 2 days.
I must say that was a waste of time. I'll not get into much details, I will only say that one of my costumers brought with him a knife , just as a joke , according to him , to show me how much risk I'm at when exposing my self like that and opening my doors to anyone.
Stupid joke , in my opinion .
Me as well all the girls out there are well ware of the chances and risks we are taking when doing escort working.
I just want to share my experiences with you all, and say that sometimes one place can be fabulous and the same place not as good in a different time or to a different provider.
I agree with both , Shyla and Sunshine and i must add that different times of the year do influence on the outcome of a visit to certain locations.
I wish you both best of the best and safe travels, lot's of success and lots of blessings.
Much love to you all.
Ts L.B aka Ts M.M
ps: Sunshine you bad girl LOL
I called you twice while visiting Calgary , wondering if you wold like to grab dinner as suggested by you back in the days here on the forum , and sadly never heard from you .
Hopefully you are are still willing to meet up and make friendship and was just too busy those past two times i was in town.
I'll be back in April , and hopefully then we can get to meet.
xoxoxo
Sunshinewww.ts-sunshine.ca You may find many copies of my style around but I am proud to be an original. If you want a beautiful shemale, I'm your girl.
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