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I support transgenders fully,
However you will never convince me that a 6 year old has gender dysphoria, or knows they do.
Young children do not understand sex or gender.
What happens when this person hits puberty and decides they are a boy that likes girls?
Will their parents be upset?
Plus they are offering gender neutral bathrooms but the Parents are refusing, not the child.
Everything here is the parent, not the child.
Parents should not be allowed to choose the sex of their child.
The parents are causing their child undue grief, not the school.
Parents are supposed to raise, teach and protect children,
not choose their gender and sexuality for them.
They are supposed to support their childrens choices, not make the choices for them.
If this was me I would be charging my parents with abuse when i got older.
I liked to try building bombs when i was a kid.
Maybe my parents should have bought me dynamite.
I put on my moms underwear a few times when i was boy.
Should they have shipped my off for Gender reassignment?
Bullshit i say.
The kid really has no idea what is going on.
In thailand the kids use the gender neutral bathroom.
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Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View PostI support transgenders fully,
However you will never convince me that a 6 year old has gender dysphoria, or knows they do.
Young children do not understand sex or gender.
What happens when this person hits puberty and decides they are a boy that likes girls?
Will their parents be upset?
Plus they are offering gender neutral bathrooms but the Parents are refusing, not the child.
Everything here is the parent, not the child.
Parents should not be allowed to choose the sex of their child.
The parents are causing their child undue grief, not the school.
Parents are supposed to raise, teach and protect children,
not choose their gender and sexuality for them.
They are supposed to support their childrens choices, not make the choices for them.
If this was me I would be charging my parents with abuse when i got older.
I liked to try building bombs when i was a kid.
Maybe my parents should have bought me dynamite.
I put on my moms underwear a few times when i was boy.
Should they have shipped my off for Gender reassignment?
Bullshit i say.
The kid really has no idea what is going on.
In thailand the kids use the gender neutral bathroom.
For your information, parents don't choose their kids sexuality or gender, they are simply born that way believe it or not. Nobody wants to live such a difficult lifestyle knowing people are gonna give them such a hard time about it. There's been transgender childrens from the beginning of time. The parents don't force there son to dress like a girl or act and behave like one. They are naturally like that by birth. I think it's silly that people think its a choice, cause trust me its not. The best thing for parents to do is accept there transgender children the way they are, rather then fighting and arguing with them and hoping they'll snap out of it and be a regular looking normal boy. My mom wanted that for me,, and i stopped for a awhile to make the fucking bitch happy,, but she still kept complaining that im too feminine even as a male,, i was like fuck it,, im too depressed being a faggot boy & suicidal,, im going back as a girl, but this time as a much more super-whore-woman, lol. Anyways, watch the documentary down below of young trangsender childrens. Pretty cool and interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utpam0IGYac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8F9CaPyQz8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W17z6KeiNY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSkQlWUX_eI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib_yE5WILJc
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Children should be allowed to be children.
The only way a 6 year old kid would go to school as another gender is because their parents promoted and decided it was to be.
Just because a child that young wants to do girly things means absolutely nothing.
Just because there is other kids brought up this way means nothing.
It is new age Bullshit.
Children that age do not understand gender or sex, they are fucking children.
They may have transgender possibilities but it is not up to the parents to decide that.
Just because my child wants to play with girly things or dress girly does not mean one damn thing.
Parents are making the decisions here not the kids.
Why would the kid want to stand out and be ridiculed so young in life.
Pulled out of school over where they pee?
There is an offer of gender neutral facilities, that the parents refuse, not the child.
Bullshit, i say.
The kid should not have to use a different bathroom or stand out at all.
The parents have made a conscious decision to make this kid a girl forever.
They only think what they think, they do not know anything.
As the child matures, they will discover their true selves.
Girls are pampered and treated special, boys are kicked outside to play in the dirt.
I am sure many boy children would happily be treated as a girl and thrive.
More attention, better clothes, more cookies, more presents, life as a girl is pretty sweet.
Over paid shrinks and impressionable parents cause this shit.
Some of the best times of my life was when i was a young child and did not have the burden of life or my sexuality.
I played with my friends and enjoyed life as an innocent child, that is how it is supposed to be.
Life closes in on you pretty damn fast, you need to give a kid a break.
Childhood is the only time you can be care free.
Modern adults, doctors and pharmaceutical companies are ruining our childhoods.
In Thailand if parents make their boy child a girl from birth, it is for money not reality.
Seriously.
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Couldn't agree more with Crag here on this one, today there is too much bad parenting where the parents force their children to act, dress and feel a certain way. Parents should raise their kids as the gender they were born up until the time where that child has the mental capacity to be able to differentiate his or her feelings. At that point only, which is usually mid teens where the parents should support but not encourage their kids feelings, as it could just be a phase. There are alot of kids out there these days that get confused and because they are pushed one way or the other, they end up not being able to make their own decisions and or change what path they choose should it happen to be something they no longer feel is right for them.
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If little boys want to play with dolls, or if little girls want to play with trucks I'm all for it. Ultimately there should be such a thing as "boy toys" and "girl toys". In the end, little kids just want to play and have fun. That's great - life would be so much better if we could all do that.
When it comes to sexuality though, I have my doubts if a 6-year-old can really truly identify either way. A 16-year-old, OK. A 20-year-old, absolutely. But not a kid who's 6.
Sexuality and self-identity is something that comes later in life. When exactly is certainly different for everyone. But I fail to see how a 6-year-old could possibly figure out that he's really a girl or a girl that she's really a boy.
To me, this is bad parenting. Let the kid grow up first then decide.
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''um, let me put my Halo videogame on pause so i could type this"......
I saw this girl on news few days ago, and she certainly was all girl, mind,face and voice of a girl but is a transgender. Schools MUST provide a washroom for each gender, so if she doesnt belong in the boys or is not allowed in the girls, then it should be required by law for that school to build a washroom for transgender girls. I dont think its fair for this trans girl to use a uni-sex washroom if thats what the school is now doing when the boys and girls can also use the same uni-sex washroom AS WELL AS their own gender assigned washrooms. Its not fair for the transgirl because she doesnt have a washroom specifically for her own gender when the boys and girls DO, thus it order for it to be fair, EITHER there should only be 1 uni-sex washroom for ALL 3 genders or 3 different washrooms, a boys, a girls and a transgirls....and maby in the future a 4th for a trannyboy. Get it?? They BARRED this girl from the girls washroom then she should be treated with equality as the other 2 genders OR to make it simple there should only be 1 uni-sex washroom because whad if in future that school will have 5 or 6 different genders as in a new hermaphrodite girl or hermaphrodite boy?? Instead of 6 different washrooms just make it 1.
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i saw this also and it completely stupid, a child of that age does not know enough to make a conscious decision about anything. i also heard this on the radio and multiple called in to talk about it and they all said that the mother was crazy and you could just tell from the video.
Dom i have to disagree with you there at that age no child should be raised to believe that they are something that they are truly not thats morally incorrect in my book.
Just as i saw a post on facebook. its a picture of a 5 year old boy who said he is gay and his mom captions this is my son etc etc , and he told me he is gay and likes boys so i will kick anyones ass who tries to make fun of my child. i mean the kid is 5 years old i bet you he loves his dog and his toys, he cannot understand the concept of what love or feelings are or anything at that age he isn't fully developed or mentally able to comprehend what he is saying
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Originally posted by Cl3arSh0ck View Posti saw this also and it completely stupid, a child of that age does not know enough to make a conscious decision about anything. i also heard this on the radio and multiple called in to talk about it and they all said that the mother was crazy and you could just tell from the video.
Dom i have to disagree with you there at that age no child should be raised to believe that they are something that they are truly not thats morally incorrect in my book.
Just as i saw a post on facebook. its a picture of a 5 year old boy who said he is gay and his mom captions this is my son etc etc , and he told me he is gay and likes boys so i will kick anyones ass who tries to make fun of my child. i mean the kid is 5 years old i bet you he loves his dog and his toys, he cannot understand the concept of what love or feelings are or anything at that age he isn't fully developed or mentally able to comprehend what he is saying
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I find it a tad humerus that you guys are arguing about something you clearly have no idea about. Gender and sexual preference are two completely different things. We did not wake up one day and go gee I want to be a shemale. It has always been about being a girl from a very early age or boy. I think it is great that children are able to express this now without the fear of rejection and to be made to feel like an outsider. It has nothing to do with parenting but to do with who that person is and knows they are on the inside. If parents continued to suppress and tell their child they cannot do this there would be lots more problems down the road. Even if a child decided later on they did not identify with that gender anymore thats exactly the point it is their choice to make.
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As well on the topic of sexual orientation I always knew for as long as I can remember that I wasn't into girls. Nor did it take me fucking one to figure that out. I remember as young as 3 years old having crushes on boys and never having those feelings for girls. So yes children are very aware of what is going on. My parents and family were homophobic so there was no one influencing me to be this way either.
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Originally posted by CandyLand View PostI find it a tad humerus that you guys are arguing about something you clearly have no idea about. Gender and sexual preference are two completely different things. We did not wake up one day and go gee I want to be a shemale. It has always been about being a girl from a very early age or boy. I think it is great that children are able to express this now without the fear of rejection and to be made to feel like an outsider. It has nothing to do with parenting but to do with who that person is and knows they are on the inside. If parents continued to suppress and tell their child they cannot do this there would be lots more problems down the road. Even if a child decided later on they did not identify with that gender anymore thats exactly the point it is their choice to make.
i do agree with you in that point that we have no idea. but what right does a mother have to dress her son as a girl just because he likes girl things at a young age. In all honesty my cousins are a perfect example, brother and sister when they were 3 and 5 years old they had gotten christmas presents, one got a batman action figure and the other got a barbie doll. there is no doubt as to who got which. But after opening the presents and examining them they both looked at each other and without arguing they switched presents. just because that happens doesn't mean they should be dressed to believe they are the opposite sex. my final point though is at that age children believe what is told to them. they still believe in monsters and santa, they dont even have the knowledge of what the opposite sex is rather they just kno there is one.
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Originally posted by Cl3arSh0ck View Posti do agree with you in that point that we have no idea. but what right does a mother have to dress her son as a girl just because he likes girl things at a young age. In all honesty my cousins are a perfect example, brother and sister when they were 3 and 5 years old they had gotten christmas presents, one got a batman action figure and the other got a barbie doll. there is no doubt as to who got which. But after opening the presents and examining them they both looked at each other and without arguing they switched presents. just because that happens doesn't mean they should be dressed to believe they are the opposite sex. my final point though is at that age children believe what is told to them. they still believe in monsters and santa, they dont even have the knowledge of what the opposite sex is rather they just kno there is one.
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Originally posted by CandyLand View PostI understand that just because a boy wants a Barbie or a little girl likes batman it doesn't mean the should dress as the opposite sex nor does it mean they are gay or straight. Trust me when I say that there is a whole lot more going on inside the head of a child than just toys and playing tag and bubblegum. I was drawn to everything in relation to girls from dolls to boys and to their clothes and high heels. Would my patents allow this? No. My parents would throw my dolls and other girl things in the garbage and discipline me for having or acting on these feelings. That does far more damage than allowing your child to act on how they feel.Last edited by dom r; 03-07-2013, 11:56 AM.
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