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    Ok, so this is something I find very frustrating. I go to check out a website of lady I may want to visit in the future and its clear right away that she has taken the time and money to have some pictures taken of herself. These are usually glamourous and and show off the features that she thinks are her best. But they can also be amateur shots taken in front of a mirror or in some crazy yoga poses that baffle the mind. All great so far... but then the pics posted on the website are to small and all I can see is a vague image. I have a good computer and I know about web design so this bothers me, especially since I want to see what she looks like. Not all the ladies do this, for example Lucy (http://www.tslucy.com/gallerymain.htm), Dee (http://www.shemaleescorttoronto.com), and Suzyhung (http://suzyhung.com/suzyhung/gallery.html) do a great job at showing themselves off. I hope that more ladies start showing them selves off better. Just my two cents worth.

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    thats all about how you take it serious and how much you want to invest,lots of girls take iphone shots,lots of girls use fake pics and lots of girls use the same pics last 10 years...
    I try my best to do it as professional as I can,I keep getting new pics every couple of months,I never use the same outfits again,I have hundreds of lingerie that has been used only once.I work with the really professional photographers and also the best web designer around.
    proudly I can say that I was the first Toronto tgirl that used professional pics in our industry.did I get the return?yes,at least I get the full respect from my clients and in our industry.
    Last edited by lucy; 03-13-2013, 10:39 AM.
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    • #3
      Ok, so this is something I find very frustrating. I go to check out a website of lady I may want to visit in the future and its clear right away that she has taken the time and money to have some pictures taken of herself. These are usually glamourous and and show off the features that she thinks are her best. But they can also be amateur shots taken in front of a mirror or in some crazy yoga poses that baffle the mind. All great so far... but then the pics posted on the website are to small and all I can see is a vague image. I have a good computer and I know about web design so this bothers me, especially since I want to see what she looks like. Not all the ladies do this, for example Lucy (http://www.tslucy.com/gallerymain.htm), Dee (http://www.shemaleescorttoronto.com), and Suzyhung (http://suzyhung.com/suzyhung/gallery.html) do a great job at showing themselves off. I hope that more ladies start showing them selves off better. Just my two cents worth.
      The issue of whether a provider has a website and her pictures is a matter that is related to the provider marketing talents which is to a great extent reflective of the provider professionalism and philosophy in general. So, in that regard I would agree with you that it is frustrating!

      Flipping this argument, I would also say that gents can do themselves a great job by doing their homework! If a gent is sophisticated enough then a gurl with photos taken from a dirty bathroom, for example, most probably wont be a good match!

      Amateur pics by themselves could be helpful if taken in the appropriate landscape just to assure the client that the touched pics, if any, are not far from the reality! But I think what you are disputing is the lack of appropriate marketing by relying of poor quality pics or fake pics, which in my view is a very reasonable observation! However, ultimately that what makes providers different!


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      • #4
        I agree I think marketing and professionalism have a lot to do with it. I have to say that as much as I love the glossy sleek professional photos I also love the hand held cell phone shots. I think they both speak to the personality of the person. The issue I have is when the images are so small that I cant make out the details. I like to see the expression on the face, I think I learn a lot about a person that way. Small pictures also makes me think that a lady is trying to hide something. Opinions?

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        • #5
          There should be a 'Marketing 101' sticky for the girls !

          As do Jane and cirle2559, I too wonder why girls do not spend a lot more time and effort on their advertisements by trying harder to present themselves in the best possible light. The idea of an advertisement, whether it is free as they are on Shemale Canada or paid for is to entice prospective clients, yet so many girls continue to run ads that show them in a very negative way. A photo placed in an ad should never show anything that is not complimentary to the girl yet many girls seem oblivious to the fact that the photos they show in their ads may actually be driving potential clients away!

          In particular I notice the quality of photos some girls continue to place in their ads varies from those so black or washed out it is totally impossible to see any detail whatsoever to others so out of focus they are also totally useless in trying to determine what the girl looks like. Such photos present a very negative image. They show a girl who cares so little about herself that she would allow this negativity to remain on her site or in her ads. If she is so uncaring about her reputation do I want to take a chance on spending time with her? Another similar example of an uncaring attitude is when their ads contain photos that are upside down or turned sideways. Why, why, why would they not try to fix such obvious errors

          Equally negative and a real turn-off for potential clients are photos showing messy conditions in the room such as used tissues on the floor, clothes and shoes scattered all over, and in one local ad posted recently a broom and a pile of dirt that had been swept into a corner of the room was visible beside the girl posing for her photo. Another ad for a local girl shows a clear bag of household garbage, its contents (an Oreo package) clearly visible right beside the girl.

          With such a preponderance of mirror shots these days even the mirror needs to be polished so all the spots and sneeze splatters etc don?t show up so clearly in the photos and then in their ads. When using the bathroom vanity it might be a good idea too to remove all the potions, lotions, tubes and spray bombs defore snapping that photo too.

          There are several ways these girls could help themselves post better photos though. I realize that professional photos are beyond the reach of these young girls starting out, but good pictures are still a necessity to gain an advantage in this business. Better than poor self-taken shots would be good candid shots taken by a friend or even, why not?, if necessary by a client, preferably before the session, using the girl?s phone or camera, then cropped and enhanced using that same editing software.

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          • #6
            This is exactly why Shemale Canada has a policy of only listing advertisers in the top of the listings with a good face picture.
            This essentially weeds out those that want to use small, blurry or unacceptable pictures.
            If you choose to venture into the bottoms of the listings, you are on your own.

            Beyond that it is up to the advertisers to compete among themselves.
            We give the same tools and rules to each tgirl regardless of their transition status or popularity.
            So the ones that work harder to have good clear photos and not scam you, will stand out.
            The scammers stick out like a sore thumb head to head, so if you still call them you need to have a talk with your little head.
            If they seem to be hiding something or seem too good to be true, then alarms should go off.

            Some say we shouldn't allow this type of tgirl or that.
            We allow all tgirls as long as they meet the basic requirements.
            Beyond that it is all marketing and taste.

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            • #7
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              I\ve mentioned this in other threads relating to photos/marketing and the like. You don't have to spend a bundle to get quality shots. If you have a decent enough pocket digital camera and plan what photos you want to take you can come out with some decent stuff. but you also need to have a little patience as well. Myself I have had the pleasure of working with a few girls in taking an organized set of 5 to 10 pictures in which a few girls used on various websites. Honestly though if you take the cost effective approach in taking photos you got to be prepared for a lot of trial and error too. I could get into design as well but I really wouldnt be able to write objectively about that as me being somewhat of a designer myself.....(to a point)....... I have a few issues about that.

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              • #8
                Taking professional pics or even launching a website is not expensive at all these days! The matter really comes down to the gurl's choice!

                As much as what is raised here seems to be reasonable you must also appreciate that there are some clients who actually don't bother. A typical example, are clients calling at 4 am and asking are you free "now"?

                For you a "decent" pic seems to be reasonable expectation and from other selective clients an independent website is a reasonable expectation as well. So, the current pics that are under scrutiny must also have some clients that view them as satisfactory for their purposes!

                At the end, I believe that the law of attraction prevails. We tend to attract clients that match our marketing philosophy and clients tend to get attracted to providers that match their hobbying philosophy!

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                • #9
                  Good points and I'd like to add something

                  Originally posted by xoxJanexox View Post
                  Taking professional pics or even launching a website is not expensive at all these days! The matter really comes down to the gurl's choice!

                  As much as what is raised here seems to be reasonable you must also appreciate that there are some clients who actually don't bother. A typical example, are clients calling at 4 am and asking are you free "now"?

                  For you a "decent" pic seems to be reasonable expectation and from other selective clients an independent website is a reasonable expectation as well. So, the current pics that are under scrutiny must also have some clients that view them as satisfactory for their purposes!

                  At the end, I believe that the law of attraction prevails. We tend to attract clients that match our marketing philosophy and clients tend to get attracted to providers that match their hobbying philosophy!
                  I completely agree with everything you write. However, I'd like to add something which hasn't been mentioned on the thread. The internet is changing the business. This change is ongoing - the dust hasn't settled yet. Just a few short years ago, clients didn't use the internet to find service providers. It remains to be seen how this will play out over time.

                  I decided to invest in a professional-grade presence on the net. I spend more than $5000 a year on site-related expenses. That's on top of money spent on advertising. When I compare my traffic with old numbers from my initial "basic" website, it's clear the expense is worthwhile. I check my stats every day and see traffic from everywhere in the world in ever-increasing numbers. Of course, my main source of traffic is Canada since I advertise here.

                  One of the things that has to get sorted out over time is the differentiation of types of providers. It used to be easy before the internet. You wanted a streetwalker, you got in your car. You wanted a call girl, you picked up the phone book. You wanted something extra special, you called a reputable service. Now all these are types of providers advertise in the same places and their ads look very similar because of the constraints of site format. How is a client to know the difference between the girls? Right now, it seems the only way is the quality of pictures and website.

                  Jane makes a good point. Not every client wants to spend hundreds for the best provider. Many are looking for cheap thrills. In the old days, they might have driven the streets looking for a girl to give them a quickie. Others want a great encounter with a girl they trust will treat them well. If they do their homework, they can find her.

                  This isn't over yet. In a few years, things will settle into a pattern and we will see what will come of the internet connection in relation to the business.

                  I should mention that, when it comes to Tgirl service providers, www.shemalecanada.com is THE place to find all of them. Thanks to Craig for patiently supporting the girls and developing his website. More and more clients use shemalecanada to find a provider.

                  Sunshine
                  www.ts-sunshine.ca You may find many copies of my style around but I am proud to be an original. If you want a beautiful shemale, I'm your girl.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by xoxJanexox View Post
                    At the end, I believe that the law of attraction prevails. We tend to attract clients that match our marketing philosophy and clients tend to get attracted to providers that match their hobbying philosophy!
                    I think this statement says it all. As a client I make my choice based on looks and reviews. I read a review and match it with the images of the lady. But for me an image is golden, I need to see a persons face, especially the eyes and mouth. I think that with this sort of transaction an image is the first point of contact and if a girl's look does not match my needs I will not contact her. Please be aware that I am not talking about a persons attractiveness here I am looking for the qualities I fide alluring, honest, and sexy.

                    Thanks for all the amazing feedback BTW.

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                    • #11
                      The face trumps tits, ass or cock!

                      Originally posted by circle2559 View Post
                      I think this statement says it all. As a client I make my choice based on looks and reviews. I read a review and match it with the images of the lady. But for me an image is golden, I need to see a persons face, especially the eyes and mouth. I think that with this sort of transaction an image is the first point of contact and if a girl's look does not match my needs I will not contact her. Please be aware that I am not talking about a persons attractiveness here I am looking for the qualities I fide alluring, honest, and sexy.

                      Thanks for all the amazing feedback BTW.

                      I concur with you in that the face tells a lot about the individual. This has nothing to do with how pretty a face may be but how the face may reveal the inner soul.

                      Unlike today, there were very few reviews of Toronto girls to be found anywhere at the time I joined the Forum as a member though I did find some on an American site. Almost all my early reviews were then of the TOFTT kind and my positive experiences enjoyed on those many encounters were based almost solely on what I could see in the grainy photos in the papers or in ads for the 'Lounge'. Your method described above is exactly that which I used then and have always used since and over those 10 years there were only a couple of girls that did not pan out or who tried to initiate any funny business.

                      I have always attributed that luck in making good choices to being an educator. Having met thousands (probably 10-12 I reckon) of students over the years, I began to notice that as I observed the students as they first filed in to the clasroom I began to get pretty good at identifying most of the ones who would later cause difficulties even before they had sat down or at least within the first few minutes in the room! Principally, I was looking at their faces of course because I was going to have to remember them all but I believe their body language had a lot to do with that identification too.

                      Now, the reverse is also true. The kids who would end the year at the top of the heap also were easily identified too!

                      Working from a photograph on the internet is not as good of course, as choosing the girls from a live parade but, it is what we've got to live with.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by xoxJanexox View Post
                        Taking professional pics or even launching a website is not expensive at all these days! The matter really comes down to the gurl's choice!

                        As much as what is raised here seems to be reasonable you must also appreciate that there are some clients who actually don't bother. A typical example, are clients calling at 4 am and asking are you free "now"?

                        For you a "decent" pic seems to be reasonable expectation and from other selective clients an independent website is a reasonable expectation as well. So, the current pics that are under scrutiny must also have some clients that view them as satisfactory for their purposes!

                        At the end, I believe that the law of attraction prevails. We tend to attract clients that match our marketing philosophy and clients tend to get attracted to providers that match their hobbying philosophy!
                        I agree..

                        I have 2 photographers that volunteer and one that I pay and a videographer that I pay. The website.. Well If I wanted to buy a site like mine it would cost me thousands.. Thankfully I've been doing graphics since I was 8 and web development since '96. I do all my own video, photo and web editing as well as marketing..

                        I try and target a specific audience, mature gents, those that have some serious fantasies that other providers don't cater to..

                        Still have to deal with the riffraff tho.. lol..

                        I'm totally 100% on using HQ pictures that are not over edited.. When you come see me you'll get exactly what you expected..

                        I have some video teasers out there too..

                        Now All I gotta do Is remember to shoot a video with me and my measuring tape..

                        Haven't seen another girl yet show her cock size on a tape measure via photo or video yet..

                        There's so much bullshit advertising out there it's not even funny..

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