Cancellation Fees

[dom r]

https://www.shemalecanada.com/escort/kamballa/"If u Come over my place and u want to "Cancel" its $60 at the Door... see u soon Rate Start over $$$$$$$$$$$ {call) If u Come over my place and u want to "Cancel its $60 at the Door"The only reason someone would cancel at the door is because you are MUCH uglier than you portrayed yourself online.Which begs the question, how deceiving must your pictures be if you have to write your cancellation policy into your profile, twice!And how would you even go about trying to collect such a fee anyway?You don't want guys walking away at the door, be honest about yourself, or close to honest at least.

Usually shemale escorts have many photos of themselves on their ads and I notice with some shemales they look very pretty on some photos while other photos they look a bit more manly and thats because of the camera angle just like in porn(or their off the fem hormones?). Some angles they appear to be more female looking while other angles may show a bigger jaw or something. ***The trick is if they appear to be manly in any 1 of the photos then you'll know thats what you may be meeting so i wont.***

[xoxJanexox]

Lets play the Devil's advocate here, and by the Devil I don't mean Craig!

The young lady is managing her own business and setting her rules. It actually comes down to "take it or leave it". I wont call it a fraud or extortion if she is clearly stating such a rule. It is a free market and if you don't agree, simply shop somewhere else! On the long run, she will figure out if this strategy is doing her good or not!

The other concerns I see in the replies are about how this rule might be enforced! Well, if you accepted the rule to start with then you must have implicitly consented to being enforced to comply with the rule!

Last, I want to apologize to the young lady when I used the word "Devil" as it is purely contextual!

[tommygun]

Lets play the Devil's advocate here, and by the Devil I don't mean Craig!

The young lady is managing her own business and setting her rules. It actually comes down to "take it or leave it". I wont call it a fraud or extortion if she is clearly stating such a rule. It is a free market and if you don't agree, simply shop somewhere else! On the long run, she will figure out if this strategy is doing her good or not!

The other concerns I see in the replies are about how this rule might be enforced! Well, if you accepted the rule to start with then you must have implicitly consented to being enforced to comply with the rule!

Last, I want to apologize to the young lady when I used the word "Devil" as it is purely contextual!

Whether she is clearly stating it in the ad or not, if the potential client doesn't agree to those terms they are not bound in any way to abide by them. It's a meaningless rule. If she tried to collect any money for services not provided, without the client previously agreeing to those terms, it would meet the legal definition of fraud and in theory she could even be arrested for it. If she used some form of intimidation to get that money, ad extortion to the list of criminal charges.

Just because it is written on her ad doesn't mean any form of consent has been given. No consent = no obligation.

[xoxJanexox]

Whether she is clearly stating it in the ad or not, if the potential client doesn't agree to those terms they are not bound in any way to abide by them. It's a meaningless rule. If she tried to collect any money for services not provided, without the client previously agreeing to those terms, it would meet the legal definition of fraud and in theory she could even be arrested for it. If she used some form of intimidation to get that money, ad extortion to the list of criminal charges.

Just because it is written on her ad doesn't mean any form of consent has been given. No consent = no obligation.

How about this: providers don't sign a consent for clients to provide services. So in the middle of a session after receiving the donation the client is trashed as there is no consent and consequentially no obligation!

I am afraid that this is not the law! or even close to it!

I believe that when the client see such an ad, yet still go to see the provider, he implicitly consented.

No consent = Shop somewhere else!

We might disagree with this marketing strategy but I don't see any issue with the legality as long as the provider is explicit about it. Resorting to illegal means to enforce such a policy is something wholly different!

[merelypink]

i wouldnt pay it sound like bait and switch

[sector7]

In a situation like this, perhaps it might be best to consider the possibility that she may have an enforcer hiding behind the door as reason enough to avoid putting one's self in danger of some sort of confrontation.

Exactly what I was thinking,

how else would you get $60 from someone without some kind of threat, be in physical or blackmail.

Obviously this is a provider to be avoided. I just had to vent at the stupidity I see sometimes.

[sector7]

Lets play the Devil's advocate here, and by the Devil I don't mean Craig!

The young lady is managing her own business and setting her rules. It actually comes down to "take it or leave it". I wont call it a fraud or extortion if she is clearly stating such a rule. It is a free market and if you don't agree, simply shop somewhere else! On the long run, she will figure out if this strategy is doing her good or not!

The other concerns I see in the replies are about how this rule might be enforced! Well, if you accepted the rule to start with then you must have implicitly consented to being enforced to comply with the rule!

Last, I want to apologize to the young lady when I used the word "Devil" as it is purely contextual!

I would agree with you in principal if she was being honest with her pics.
But anyone can put up fake pics of a super model and then just collect $60 a pop
from client after client as they turn away in horror.

I have it on good authority that this girl HEAVILY photoshops her pics.
And so I believe her cancellation policy was born out of necessity as her customers
were being greeted by a "Michael Clark Duncan in a Wig" type of situation.

[xoxJanexox]

I would agree with you in principal if she was being honest with her pics.
But anyone can put up fake pics of a super model and then just collect $60 a pop
from client after client as they turn away in horror.

I have it on good authority that this girl HEAVILY photoshops her pics.
And so I believe her cancellation policy was born out of necessity as her customers
were being greeted by a "Michael Clark Duncan in a Wig" type of situation.

Then the issue folds down really to the illegal use of a legal policy!
If the facts you stated were correct!

[merelypink]

https://www.shemalecanada.com/escort/kamballa/



"If u Come over my place and u want to "Cancel" its $60 at the Door... see u soon

Rate Start over $$$$$$$$$$$ {call) If u Come over my place and u want to
"Cancel its $60 at the Door"


The only reason someone would cancel at the door is because you are MUCH uglier than you portrayed yourself online.
Which begs the question, how deceiving must your pictures be if you have to
write your cancellation policy into your profile, twice!
And how would you even go about trying to collect such a fee anyway?

You don't want guys walking away at the door, be honest about yourself, or close to honest at least.
I know the bait and switch works because once most guys go through the
trouble of making a date and showing up, they're usually too horny and awkward to leave.
But if you're going to lie about who you are and what you look like, don't dare try charging a "cancellation fee".

Thanks for your time.

who would pay that?

[tommygun]

How about this: providers don't sign a consent for clients to provide services. So in the middle of a session after receiving the donation the client is trashed as there is no consent and consequentially no obligation!

I am afraid that this is not the law! or even close to it!

I believe that when the client see such an ad, yet still go to see the provider, he implicitly consented.

No consent = Shop somewhere else!

We might disagree with this marketing strategy but I don't see any issue with the legality as long as the provider is explicit about it. Resorting to illegal means to enforce such a policy is something wholly different!

You do not need to sign anything for a contract to be valid. If you have verbally agreed to terms this can be considered a verbal contract, which is legally binding. If you read the reviews on this site then you'll see no shortage of providers who have basically done exactly what you described and shortchanged their client, with no refund. However if an escort stops half way through a session (say 30 mins into a 60 min session) that is a breach of contract and is a crime. If you agree to a set time limit for a session then you are obligated to offer that time limit. If a person doesn't consent to a cancellation fee, they are obligated to nothing.

There is absolutely no implied consent simply because you list something on your page. Implied consent is generally reserved for health care professions so they can treat an unconscious patient because it is assumed that people would want life saving measures taken if they were able to consent. If we didn't have this law then nobody would ever be authorized to perform CPR. It isn't very applicable to what you do for a living. There is a general rule in the world of contracts, "if it wasn't stated, it wasn't done".

If you honestly believe that this is legally binding in any manner then call the police when somebody doesn't pay this cancellation fee. However don't be surprised if you end up being the one being fingerprinted at the end of it. Not because of the escorting or soliciting, but because of fraud as you have provided no services in exchange for the fees you have demanded. Section 380 of the Criminal Code, punishable by up to 2 years in prison.

[xoxJanexox]

You do not need to sign anything for a contract to be valid. If you have verbally agreed to terms this can be considered a verbal contract, which is legally binding. If you read the reviews on this site then you'll see no shortage of providers who have basically done exactly what you described and shortchanged their client, with no refund. However if an escort stops half way through a session (say 30 mins into a 60 min session) that is a breach of contract and is a crime. If you agree to a set time limit for a session then you are obligated to offer that time limit. If a person doesn't consent to a cancellation fee, they are obligated to nothing.



There is absolutely no implied consent simply because you list something on your page. Implied consent is generally reserved for health care professions so they can treat an unconscious patient because it is assumed that people would want life saving measures taken if they were able to consent. If we didn't have this law then nobody would ever be authorized to perform CPR. It isn't very applicable to what you do for a living. There is a general rule in the world of contracts, "if it wasn't stated, it wasn't done".

If you honestly believe that this is legally binding in any manner then call the police when somebody doesn't pay this cancellation fee. However don't be surprised if you end up being the one being fingerprinted at the end of it. Not because of the escorting or soliciting, but because of fraud as you have provided no services in exchange for the fees you have demanded. Section 380 of the Criminal Code, punishable by up to 2 years in prison.

I can see an extensive research in the law done here taking in consideration that more than 25 days have elapsed since I posted my response. Hopefully, in less than 25 minutes this extensive search could be quashed. So, lets start:

- We have to distinguish first between what is legal and what is considered appropriate in the market. when an escort explicitly advertises cancellation fees, this might be considered by the majority or the minority of the consumers to be inappropriate, but it is 100% legal as she is running her own private business. If you don't like it as a consumer simply move on to the next ad. This is called the FREE MARKET and freedom goes both ways.

- A provider who is implementing illegal means to enforce this policy or using fake pics to trap clients is doing something illegal of course but this doesn't make the policy in itself illegal. Simply like a knife, you can use it to make a healthy meal and you can use it to be a serial killer.

- The same principle can be applied on the escorts' fees. Let assume an escort is charging 2000/hr, for most this would be consider inappropriate rate and some actually might have a fit, but this doesn't distract from the fact that the escort in question has the right to set such rate. Now, when you read this escort's ad and still decide to go and see her, you implicitly agreed to her terms regarding the rate.

- Breach of contract is not a crime and the way to pursue it is through the civil judicial system.

- An escort can potentially sue a client if she was called for an "out-call" (legal) and the client refused to pay the donation upon show or the cancellation fees if it were stated in her website for example. It is not done because it is a wast of time and resources, but escorts have their own ways of dealing with unethical clients.

- A client who calls a girl for "outcall" (legal) can potentially sue an escort if she advertises certain services and she fails to meet up with the expectations. It is not done because there is no single client who would take the obvious risks associated with this action and this is why in this business, clients are relatively more vulnerable.

- In addition to being clearly wrong, your statement in paragraph # 1 is just the opposite of your statement in paragraph number 3 (See in RED).

- There is distinction between a breach of contract and fraud! And that's why your reference to the Criminal Code is irrelevant. In my example, an escort trashing a client in a middle of a session could be said to "not provide adequate" service but to say NO SERVICE is a stretch and trust me non-ethical escorts have their own tricks to make it the client's fault.

- There is no law enforcement in this business, so practically speaking there is nothing binding and the matter folds into the ethics of the supplier and the consumer.

- Last, you have 60 days to reply or this file will be closed, at least from my part! LOL

[Paul Smith]

Really?

Is there really a way to enforce legal action or this cancellation fee? Would we really want to try to bring the legal system into this sort of thing? How would someone try to get a cancellation fee from the client?

[Shyla Wild]

Is there really a way to enforce legal action or this cancellation fee? Would we really want to try to bring the legal system into this sort of thing? How would someone try to get a cancellation fee from the client?

Nope, and to try to enforce it would be such a waste of time...chasing after a cancellation fee, that would be such a waste of time and energy.