What A TG Woman Wants & Needs **For Top Guys Only**

[anat89]

I feel that if you have to write "**For Top Guys Only**" then the tittle is not correct.
If you have to write that.... the tittle should be, "What a Bottom TG Woman Wants & Needs." Otherwise you're claiming that the right way to be a TG Woman is to be a bottom.

[TSFantasia]

I feel that if you have to write "**For Top Guys Only**" then the tittle is not correct.
If you have to write that.... the tittle should be, "What a Bottom TG Woman Wants & Needs." Otherwise you're claiming that the right way to be a TG Woman is to be a bottom.

I think that last part was added because I knew it would not be popular amongst those who want to believe that most TS women are drooling over topping guys. The truth is the majority of us have no desire to do that whatsoever, if not for the motivation of being paid to do it in the sex or porn industries. And the word majority doesn't mean all it simply means 51% or more than average of TS/TG women are naturally bottoms. Maybe a clue as to why we would want SRS as the completion of our transition...DUH ...Lol.

If that spoils the fantasy of the guys who prefer t-girls willing to top it shouldn't there are many willing to do so for MONEY so have at her ! As porn and the sex industry is all about fantasy not reality

[cameeindos]

I think that last part was added because I knew it would not be popular amongst those who want to believe that most TS women are drooling over topping guys. The truth is the majority of us have no desire to do that whatsoever, if not for the motivation of being paid to do it in the sex or porn industries. And the word majority doesn't mean all it simply means 51% or more than average of TS/TG women are naturally bottoms. Maybe a clue as to why we would want SRS as the completion of our transition...DUH ...Lol.

If that spoils the fantasy of the guys who prefer t-girls willing to top it shouldn't there are many willing to do so for MONEY so have at her ! As porn and the sex industry is all about fantasy not reality

No really, what is your point?

You say men cannot differentiate between fantasy and reality. Er...is this men here or elsewhre? If so does anybody here need to give a shit?

Then you say bottoming is more gay, and then say you dont care who tops or bottoms.

and your definition of sexual orientation is odd...so a person who likes the same sex sexually but is delibate isnt gay? It is only to do with actayl sex acts?

[TSFantasia]

No really, what is your point?

You say men cannot differentiate between fantasy and reality. Er...is this men here or elsewhre? If so does anybody here need to give a shit?

Then you say bottoming is more gay, and then say you dont care who tops or bottoms.

and your definition of sexual orientation is odd...so a person who likes the same sex sexually but is delibate isnt gay? It is only to do with actayl sex acts?

I think the point has been made repeatedly in this post that TG women, who are actually transitioning because they see their gender identity as female are naturally bottoms. Those in the sex trade/ porn industry top for money not because its their natural inclination or actually arouses them. Any TS that can look down at a flat, hairy man's butt and spring a spontaneous boner over that sight has a gay male orientation. You don't need to give a shit if your only interaction with TG women is a paid one. If you think you are going to find real trans women in the bar or dating world that are going to want to top you your chances are slim to none!

[anat89]

I had thought to leave it alone because I don't think you got what I was getting at, and I didn't really wanna make a fuss over it.
But then you wrote this:

Any TS that can look down at a flat, hairy man's butt and spring a spontaneous boner over that sight has a gay male orientation.

What does that mean?

PS. Most of the tgirls I've slept with(no money involved) are tops. So I don't think your statement about not finding top girls is true.

[TSFantasia]

I had thought to leave it alone because I don't think you got what I was getting at, and I didn't really wanna make a fuss over it.
But then you wrote this:



What does that mean?

PS. Most of the tgirls I've slept with(no money involved) are tops. So I don't think your statement about not finding top girls is true.

Well I can't dispute what you say you have found still comes back to the original motivation for transitioning those with gender dysphoria and a genuine female gender identity lining up their bodies to fit their heart, mind, and soul. And those who were bisexual and gay cross dressers who decided to take it to the next level. Congrats sounds like you hit that jackpot!

[anat89]

Well I can't dispute what you say you have found still comes back to the original motivation for transitioning those with gender dysphoria and a genuine female gender identity lining up their bodies to fit their heart, mind, and soul. And those who were bisexual and gay cross dressers who decided to take it to the next level. Congrats sounds like you hit that jackpot!

I might be misunderstanding this, and that's why I keep writing so I apologize for that. But, are you saying that women who genuinely like to top are not "genuine females"?

[TSFantasia]

I might be misunderstanding this, and that's why I keep writing so I apologize for that. But, are you saying that women who genuinely like to top are not "genuine females"?

As this is an escort board and the majority of the ladies here make a majority of their money catering to guys who want to be topped and giving them a convincing performance and making the fantasy real I will leave that alone.

[anat89]

As this is an escort board and the majority of the ladies here make a majority of their money catering to guys who want to be topped and giving them a convincing performance and making the fantasy real I will leave that alone.

Riight, if you wanted to leave it alone maybe you should not have made a thread with such an audacious name in the first place, instead of backing down when asked to explicitly say what you have been subtly saying all along.

Coming from a transsexual, this should be shocking and yet, sadly, it isn't. Who made you god of genders? To think that you are somehow more of a lady than anyone else is as hostile towards the advancements of the LGBT community as homophobia was 20 years ago. Know that, your future posts regarding sexuality carry no weight in my mind.

[TSFantasia]

Riight, if you wanted to leave it alone maybe you should not have made a thread with such an audacious name in the first place, instead of backing down when asked to explicitly say what you have been subtly saying all along.

Coming from a transsexual, this should be shocking and yet, sadly, it isn't. Who made you god of genders? To think that you are somehow more of a lady than anyone else is as hostile towards the advancements of the LGBT community as homophobia was 20 years ago. Know that, your future posts regarding sexuality carry no weight in my mind.

I posted what needed to be said and based on the current assumptions of tranny chasers towards all trans women based on what they view in tranny porn or can buy in the sex trade. You're obviously poking and prodding for a response that you can jump on and come out the hero I think that's called attacking straw dogs! You are certainly in no position to tell me what my experience is as a trans woman both in and outside the sex trade so don't even try! And yes there are distinctions with in the transgender and LGBT community thus the different letters which now also include LGBTQI. And yes NO QUESTION about it not every fetish CD has a female identity or is struggling with gender dysphoria just happily fucking all your tranny chaser asses

[anat89]

I posted what needed to be said and based on the current assumptions of tranny chasers towards all trans women based on what they view in tranny porn or can buy in the sex trade. You're obviously poking and prodding for a response that you can jump on and come out the hero I think that's called attacking straw dogs! You are certainly in no position to tell me what my experience is as a trans woman both in and outside the sex trade so don't even try! And yes there are distinctions with in the transgender and LGBT community thus the different letters which now also include LGBTQI. And yes NO QUESTION about it not every fetish CD has a female identity or is struggling with gender dysphoria just happily fucking all your tranny chaser asses

I don't care about tranny chasers and what their illusions are. I somehow found girls that like to top and I might well be the exception. But my beef with you has nothing to do with your sage advice to them, I think you are correct, most trans girls are bottom. Where you fucked up was in the title, which gave away your true views, I tried telling you but you're too proud of your "true women's club" to see what I was getting at.

Over the years I've couple of big issues in the Gay and Transsexual part of the LGBTQI group, one of them being discrimination from within. It makes you all fight and bicker amongst each other and this is the saddest thing to see and the source of my anger against your title.

You are, perhaps unknowingly, discriminating people within your own group. I've see it from many trans women, this idea that there is a right way to be female. How can you claim that in a group that strives to redefine what gender means? Not only is it close minded, but it's flat out wrong. Women who like to top are no less women than you are, because that's not what makes someone a woman. It's the same argument that men who are gay are less men.

My second girlfriend, a genetic girl, wanted to use a strap on (no we didn't end up doing it) so are you going to tell me she it not a true woman? Please say so, if you want an example of someone poking and prodding for a response that they can jump on, here it is, on a god damned silver platter.

Look anyway, I don't wanna make this thing take a page. Just don't discriminate people and be more open minded to your own kind. Being women stems from your core values not from what you do in bed, otherwise we get into the whole thing if I like to have sex with bread, does that define my gender? I honestly apologize if I attacked you, but you pushed some buttons and I'm tired of editing this so it sounds like I'm not angry.

[TSFantasia]

I don't care about tranny chasers and what their illusions are. I somehow found girls that like to top and I might well be the exception. But my beef with you has nothing to do with your sage advice to them, I think you are correct, most trans girls are bottom. Where you fucked up was in the title, which gave away your true views, I tried telling you but you're too proud of your "true women's club" to see what I was getting at.

Over the years I've couple of big issues in the Gay and Transsexual part of the LGBTQI group, one of them being discrimination from within. It makes you all fight and bicker amongst each other and this is the saddest thing to see and the source of my anger against your title.

You are, perhaps unknowingly, discriminating people within your own group. I've see it from many trans women, this idea that there is a right way to be female. How can you claim that in a group that strives to redefine what gender means? Not only is it close minded, but it's flat out wrong. Women who like to top are no less women than you are, because that's not what makes someone a woman. It's the same argument that men who are gay are less men.

My second girlfriend, a genetic girl, wanted to use a strap on (no we didn't end up doing it) so are you going to tell me she it not a true woman? Please say so, if you want an example of someone poking and prodding for a response that they can jump on, here it is, on a god damned silver platter.

Look anyway, I don't wanna make this thing take a page. Just don't discriminate people and be more open minded to your own kind. Being women stems from your core values not from what you do in bed, otherwise we get into the whole thing if I like to have sex with bread, does that define my gender? I honestly apologize if I attacked you, but you pushed some buttons and I'm tired of editing this so it sounds like I'm not angry.

Well I'm pretty sure I said MANY times that most but not all trans women are naturally bottoms and why wouldn't they be as for most (not all) trans women we are disgusted by the fact that we have a penis between our legs in the first place and cannot tolerate leaving that uncorrected for any longer than absolutely necessary. It's not a matter of judging or discriminating to say that there are different motivations to some people transitioning or more accurately for some feminizing themselves. Also there is no judgement to making the distinctions between straight, bisexual and gay acts and behavior. I have also said MANY times that being one is no better than the other it is simply who we are. The endless squabbles over my statements in other threads involves guys, who obviously see identifying themselves as "straight" regardless of how many t-girl cocks they stuff down their throats and into their asses as a life and death struggle over the survival of their manhood somehow. To me it is epic denial of one's own preferences that their actions are screaming.

Am I more of a woman than a TG/TS who chooses to not have SRS and has no issues with how her penis is used during sex but in every other regard lives her life as a woman? No by no means. Am I more than a woman than the many fetish cross dressers who dress up for sexual arousal and activities only and then throw their "female identity" back into the closet or dresser drawer until the next time and live their lives as men ? Absolutely I am a woman heart, mind, and soul they are a guy who enjoys cross dressing. I know every CD and guy who puts on a pair of nylons and panties while masturbating wants to call himself a T-Girl at that moment but sorry not the case.

And of course for the majority of us trans women who are naturally bottoms yes our preference would be to date and have relationships with guys who are TOPS only who are attracted to us as women, who have sex with us as women and are not pressuring us to use our penis in a way which is inherently masculine.

[cameeindos]

I think the point has been made repeatedly in this post that TG women, who are actually transitioning because they see their gender identity as female are naturally bottoms. Those in the sex trade/ porn industry top for money not because its their natural inclination or actually arouses them. Any TS that can look down at a flat, hairy man's butt and spring a spontaneous boner over that sight has a gay male orientation. You don't need to give a shit if your only interaction with TG women is a paid one. If you think you are going to find real trans women in the bar or dating world that are going to want to top you your chances are slim to none!

I already know all of this.....it's just your point/argument is all over the place...

[TSFantasia]

I already know all of this.....it's just your point/argument is all over the place...

I think you're the one who resurrected this thread not me

[sadeh]

Gender identity

Transsexual - male or female that has transitioned into the opposite gender, by enhancements and surgery. Meaning reversing the penis within to create a vagina, (male-female) or growing a penis from a vaginal clitorus, (female to male)

Transgender or tg - someone in the process of a transition to the opposite gender, but has not had permanent surgical change.

Transvestite - A male or female that dresses up in women's or men's clothes for sexual excitement,
And not in transition to change their gender.

The cool situation is here that everyone is transgender, we all have the ability to evolve into a male or female.