Post-OP : To Stealth or Not to Stealth That is the Question?

[TSFantasia]

Toban and Cobbler want the post ops to be honest and I agree, i thought you agree too? NO? O well, I assume you do agree with at least that part.

I won't say that I'm a cis woman, though i'm indeed a woman but not naturally born woman..a different kind of woman..a post op to be more precise..and I want to prove the world that being a post op is sexy and attractive too.

Gosh...now i feel like a post op already lol.

Right Alyssa?

I can't wait to meet you in Toronto girl, please pm me your cell number hon

Again the point Tia is that we present ourselves as female and as women. For now we add the "T" for obvious reasons. When post-op there is no reason to hyphenate who we are with a "T-". Its not about saying we are a "genetic" woman we are just saying we are women now emotionally, mentally, and physically.

For long term relationships yes our partner needs to know where we came from. For a short term money-sex exchange I don't think so.

If you do continue to operate as a Post-Op TS woman after your SRS I'm not sure what your clientele will look like. Men attracted to TG/TS women are very keenly aware we have a penis that they want to touch, suck, and other things as well. I don't have any stats as to the success of Post-Op TSs in escorting. From one very beautiful T-Girl escort here in Canada who is now working the female side I think it is not good.

[TSFantasia]

I Say Po-Ta-Toe You Say Pa-Ta-Toe

Well went over what you said several times and I've come to the conclusion that for you, for someone to claim she is "female, woman" is synonymous with claiming she is a "genetic woman" (GG). So for any post-op to live or work as a female or woman without disclosing her "T, TS, TG" is to be misleading others and misrepresenting herself?

If this is the case, which it may not be, then that position shows a total lack of understanding of what and who TG/TS women are. We view ourselves as women period. Yes we acknowledge our misfortune to be born with male genitalia and with testosterone shaping our physical bodies instead of estrogens. But emotionally and mentally we know our gender is female. And it all depends on our families, environment, and access to support and knowledge as to when we fully realize this and decide to transition.

We don't go through the lengthy, painful,and expensive process of transition and SRS/GRS so that we can always hyphenate our womanhood and existence with a "T-,TG, or TS" and be relegated to some sub-category of women."Yes I know you are a woman now BUT this pageant, school, job is for "real, genetic" women." It's like telling a person who was "legally" blind , who regains their sight fully through laser surgery that they must still always disclose that they "were" legally blind when applying for schools jobs, drivers licenses,etc.
People do not need to reveal that they were born with a handicap when they are cured of that handicap! "I WAS blind but NOW I can see!"

[sunshine]

If you go post op...

Based on my discussions with clients and with tgirls who have had SRS, here are a few things I believe are true.

1. If you go post op, there is a fair chance you will regret it. Many girls do. What then? You can't put you cock back on. Think about it three times and then think about it again.
2. If you go post op, leave escorting and start a new life. The point of escorting for most tgirls is to be able to pay for transition. Once transition is complete, find an understanding partner and start a new life.
3. If you want to continue escorting, don't call yourself a tgirl unless you also spell out that you are post op. Clients want cock, preferably hard and spurting cum. If you hide the fact you are post op, you're going to regret it.
4. If you are honest about being a post op, you won't get many clients. Same reason as above.
5. If you are post op and advertise as a female escort, you won't do well because word will get around you are a post op tg. Clients of women escorts want a woman. They don't want a post op tg. Toban did a good job of explaining the limitations of what the surgery can give you and I agree with all of it.
6. From what many tgirls have told me, it is very difficult to keep yourself clean and fresh down there. You don't have the same physiology as a woman and bad smells develop easily and quickly. One friend told me she had to wash a dozen times a day. Refer back to point 1 - think about it before you do it.
7. Refer back to point 2. You'd be better off not escorting. If you are a post op, just find a new life and live as a woman.

There's no point trying to force blood from a stone. It is the way it is and arguing won't change it.

I will never be a post op. I love my hard cock and I love to cum. I also love living as a woman and I love who I am. I just happen to be a woman with a cock.

Sunshine

[xoxJanexox]

When a T-Girl has her SRS done is she better off starting over where people don't know her and begin a new life as a woman without the "T" added or mentioned? Or just carry on in her existing community? Where she has the support of those who have accepted her transition but also those who will always point her out as "Hey see that woman? She used to be a dude!" or even worse "Hey see that chick? That's a dude!"?

If a T-Girl escort completes her SRS and wants to continue escorting. Is she better off to continue on the T-Girl sites only as a Post-Op T-Girl, work the female escort side or play both sides of the coin to her advantage?

For the hobbyists do you have any interest in seeing a post-op girl or if you are going to see a woman with a vagina would you prefer natural women with "homegrown" vaginas?

In my opinion, the idea of SRS is becoming really moot in this era. Long time ago, especially in conservative countries, SRS was the only way to prove commitment and therefore transition. This is not the case nowadays. There is a still a percentage of t-girls who just can't live psychologically with a male remnant between their thighs. So for them SRS is definitely a must to live in peace.

If a t-girl underwent SRS and want to continue escorting, I see no dishonesty about advertising in female sections at all. By the most stringent laws she is a female. So who is to judge next. Honesty comes into play when , for example, the gentleman (assuming gentlemen still exist) asks for a clarification either before or during the encounter. It would be dishonest and foolish at this point to say I am a cis woman.

T-girls should not carry a sign on their chest saying that we are t-girls, but if someone asked me, I will be more than proud to say who I am. Having said that, if I were to do undergo SRS, I would feel eligible to advertise in both sections TS and Females. But I would definitely mention in both sections that I am a post op transgender. This is just my style of laying my terms first.

Business wise, I can tell you for sure that the chances of a post-op t-girl are far less even compared to a bottom only t-girl.

[Tia Phoenixx]

Based on my discussions with clients and with tgirls who have had SRS, here are a few things I believe are true.

1. If you go post op, there is a fair chance you will regret it. Many girls do. What then? You can't put you cock back on. Think about it three times and then think about it again.
2. If you go post op, leave escorting and start a new life. The point of escorting for most tgirls is to be able to pay for transition. Once transition is complete, find an understanding partner and start a new life.
3. If you want to continue escorting, don't call yourself a tgirl unless you also spell out that you are post op. Clients want cock, preferably hard and spurting cum. If you hide the fact you are post op, you're going to regret it.
4. If you are honest about being a post op, you won't get many clients. Same reason as above.
5. If you are post op and advertise as a female escort, you won't do well because word will get around you are a post op tg. Clients of women escorts want a woman. They don't want a post op tg. Toban did a good job of explaining the limitations of what the surgery can give you and I agree with all of it.
6. From what many tgirls have told me, it is very difficult to keep yourself clean and fresh down there. You don't have the same physiology as a woman and bad smells develop easily and quickly. One friend told me she had to wash a dozen times a day. Refer back to point 1 - think about it before you do it.
7. Refer back to point 2. You'd be better off not escorting. If you are a post op, just find a new life and live as a woman.

There's no point trying to force blood from a stone. It is the way it is and arguing won't change it.

I will never be a post op. I love my hard cock and I love to cum. I also love living as a woman and I love who I am. I just happen to be a woman with a cock.

Sunshine

I agree with you to some point Sunshine.

However, a decision to become a post op or remain pre-op has to be seen on personal basis.

I will be 100% happier as a post op, as long as all the surgery that I will be having successful.

How do I know?

I have already explained it in my blog: http://www.tia-phoenixx.com/node/3341
People see me as a genetic woman in the western world. Full stop.
In reality, it is awkward to tell them that I'm actually a tgirl.
Few days ago, a car stop when I was walking on the street doing my routine daily walk.
He offered me a ride, I looked at him and he is my type, so i agreed.
Few minutes later, he told me that i'm sexy and I must be great in bed.
I pretended to be offended, and told him that it is not polite saying that to a woman.
He apologized, he told me that I looked so open, sexy and free and ready to have sex, which is true.
I thought he knew I was a tgirl escort, until he told me that: "I like liking pussy. I can lick your pussy and make you happy for hours."
I like to hear that, but at the same time, i couldn't sleep with him at this point since i have not had that pussy yet.
It happens so many times, especially when i'm on holiday.

Again, if you read my blog. I have so much fun with boys during holiday. Those studs just love to fuck me and pay very little attention to my penis. Few of them said: "I wish you have a vagina, I will marry you right now."

Now, this is the naughtiest story:
I've been to a sex club where women and tgirls can come for free in Paris.
All of us have to be attractive in order to join this prestige, high end sex club.
So here we are...gorgeous, horny girls and boys mingling together ready to copulate.
And here is something I will not believe in thousand years if i didn't experience it myself:
Men queued up in front of my cubicle eager to fuck me. I didn't remember how many of them, they literally took turn to fuck me. All were handsome and gorgeous. Those men wanted to fuck me first before fucking other women.

Paris is a melting pot, like in Canada and USA. So I could taste different men from hung black guy, eastern European, Parisian..even men from Tunisia and Turkey.

I remember how happy I was LOL. Check this out: http://www.tia-phoenixx.com/node/3326

Something happened in other places around the globe when I was on vacation: Tunisia, Turkey and Samoa.

In Samoa, I went and stayed in a village by the sea for three days. Almost the whole single young men fucked me at night while I was there. the chief of the village even has to give me a hut beside his house, so i could have fun but be safe at the same time. I'm sure he also eager to fuck me, but he didn't do it. He is married. http://www.tia-phoenixx.com/node/3336

None of those men paid attention to my dick either.

I don;t need any feminization surgery if I stay all the time in the western world. However, my main challenge is back to Asia, which i do it all the time since i miss my parents and family in Indonesia.
Over there, people do know that I'm a tgirl, and I don't like it. I'm too tall and too athletic for Asian standard.
Therefore, i have decided to do surgery to make me passable everywhere in the world.
That's for sure making my life easier, thus more doors will open for me.

Last but not the least. I have seen "neo" vaginas created by top surgeons. They look awesome.
I have talked to post op girls who are much happier being a post ops.
I have asked men who have been with a post ops, and they told me that they enjoyed it and they couldn't tell the differences.

In my case, I will be just fine being a post op....i can already feel it that those men are waiting.

But again, that's only my personal case, it might not be the case for every tgirls.

Will I be still successful as a post op tgirl escort as well?
Let's wait and see. I know I will, but I have to prove it to all of you first and get back in here in few years and declare it.
Most probably, I will be engaged with one of my boyfriends, but I promise at least to work for few years as a post op just for fun and to prove my basic instinct as a slut before committing my life as a wife for one guy and hopefully live happily ever after


my 2 cents




my naughty experience in Tozeur, Tunisia: http://stunningvisions.wordpress.com...ive-interview/
More and more tops who enjoy fucking me as an escort: http://www.tia-phoenixx.com/node/3344

my advice: each of us, tgirl, deep in our heart, knows whether or not our lives will be happy as a post op.
Being a post op might not be a solution for some, and to some extend, as you have already explained, they might regret their decision.
I never regret my big decision. Why?
I'm observant. it takes me years before coming up and decided to be a post op in few years.
I'm already happy as a tgirl right now, and I will be happier and feeling fabolous as a post op.
Now, am I a woman?
Well, i'm always a tomboy. But a pretty tomboy with a great body, tits and face and soon with a tight vagina. Mama mia....i'm sure those boys will be crazy lol.
btw, Here I'm in Philadelphia writing my blog before going to bed. There is one cute guy accompany me right now. And he totally agree i should be a post op.
This is what he says: Your ass is great, but soon, I can fuck your pussy too.

[TSFantasia]

Based on my discussions with clients and with tgirls who have had SRS, here are a few things I believe are true.

1. If you go post op, there is a fair chance you will regret it. Many girls do. What then? You can't put you cock back on. Think about it three times and then think about it again.
2. If you go post op, leave escorting and start a new life. The point of escorting for most tgirls is to be able to pay for transition. Once transition is complete, find an understanding partner and start a new life.
3. If you want to continue escorting, don't call yourself a tgirl unless you also spell out that you are post op. Clients want cock, preferably hard and spurting cum. If you hide the fact you are post op, you're going to regret it.
4. If you are honest about being a post op, you won't get many clients. Same reason as above.
5. If you are post op and advertise as a female escort, you won't do well because word will get around you are a post op tg. Clients of women escorts want a woman. They don't want a post op tg. Toban did a good job of explaining the limitations of what the surgery can give you and I agree with all of it.
6. From what many tgirls have told me, it is very difficult to keep yourself clean and fresh down there. You don't have the same physiology as a woman and bad smells develop easily and quickly. One friend told me she had to wash a dozen times a day. Refer back to point 1 - think about it before you do it.
7. Refer back to point 2. You'd be better off not escorting. If you are a post op, just find a new life and live as a woman.

There's no point trying to force blood from a stone. It is the way it is and arguing won't change it.

I will never be a post op. I love my hard cock and I love to cum. I also love living as a woman and I love who I am. I just happen to be a woman with a cock.

Sunshine

Thank you Sunshine for your input and for passing on some of what you have heard and learned from post-op girls. I think point #2 is the most relevant and is the logical conclusion. That along with making money while escorting for transition a girl should either be putting aside money to complete a University, College, or Trade degree or working on one as she goes. Escorting has a limited shelf life and even though one can do it through their 20's,30's, and for some even their 40's it is definitely a sliding scale of demand.

I think you are probably correct on your assessment of demand for post-op girls , whether they attempt to work in either category of T-Girl or in stealth as female. Which is why I made the tongue in cheek reply to Toban about the conclusion being if you have no real skills or training get ready for a job at McD's, Timmies, Walmart, etc.

[TSFantasia]

In my opinion, the idea of SRS is becoming really moot in this era. Long time ago, especially in conservative countries, SRS was the only way to prove commitment and therefore transition. This is not the case nowadays. There is a still a percentage of t-girls who just can't live psychologically with a male remnant between their thighs. So for them SRS is definitely a must to live in peace.

If a t-girl underwent SRS and want to continue escorting, I see no dishonesty about advertising in female sections at all. By the most stringent laws she is a female. So who is to judge next. Honesty comes into play when , for example, the gentleman (assuming gentlemen still exist) asks for a clarification either before or during the encounter. It would be dishonest and foolish at this point to say I am a cis woman.

T-girls should not carry a sign on their chest saying that we are t-girls, but if someone asked me, I will be more than proud to say who I am. Having said that, if I were to do undergo SRS, I would feel eligible to advertise in both sections TS and Females. But I would definitely mention in both sections that I am a post op transgender. This is just my style of laying my terms first.

Business wise, I can tell you for sure that the chances of a post-op t-girl are far less even compared to a bottom only t-girl.

Gee Jane I must have woken up in an alternate universe this morning as I actually agree with 95 % of what you have said here...lol.
Damn it your slipping how are we going to have a long drawn out debate on this one! I agree that even if one did operate in "stealth" as a female escort
if a man did have the presence of mind to ask the question "Are you a "genetic" woman and not a post-op TS?" I would answer honestly. To put post-op TG/TS in the advertisement you may as well just keep your advertisement in the T-Girl section. As the guys who don't have a huge mental block in that area and are open and interested in TSs in general know where to look.

I don't think a "bottom only t-girl" escort business wise is all that dismal of an outcome. Though I have operated as a "versatile" SP in reality I have been 75% of the time bottom out of all my appts. And if guys "had a clue" about anal cleansing I wouldn't be bitching about the other 25%

[TSFantasia]

I agree with you to some point Sunshine.

However, a decision to become a post op or remain pre-op has to be seen on personal basis.

I will be 100% happier as a post op, as long as all the surgery that I will be having successful.

How do I know?

I have already explained it in my blog: http://www.tia-phoenixx.com/node/3341
People see me as a genetic woman in the western world. Full stop.
In reality, it is awkward to tell them that I'm actually a tgirl.
Few days ago, a car stop when I was walking on the street doing my routine daily walk.
He offered me a ride, I looked at him and he is my type, so i agreed.
Few minutes later, he told me that i'm sexy and I must be great in bed.
I pretended to be offended, and told him that it is not polite saying that to a woman.
He apologized, he told me that I looked so open, sexy and free and ready to have sex, which is true.
I thought he knew I was a tgirl escort, until he told me that: "I like liking pussy. I can lick your pussy and make you happy for hours."
I like to hear that, but at the same time, i couldn't sleep with him at this point since i have not had that pussy yet.
It happens so many times, especially when i'm on holiday.

Again, if you read my blog. I have so much fun with boys during holiday. Those studs just love to fuck me and pay very little attention to my penis. Few of them said: "I wish you have a vagina, I will marry you right now."

Now, this is the naughtiest story:
I've been to a sex club where women and tgirls can come for free in Paris.
All of us have to be attractive in order to join this prestige, high end sex club.
So here we are...gorgeous, horny girls and boys mingling together ready to copulate.
And here is something I will not believe in thousand years if i didn't experience it myself:
Men queued up in front of my cubicle eager to fuck me. I didn't remember how many of them, they literally took turn to fuck me. All were handsome and gorgeous. Those men wanted to fuck me first before fucking other women.

Paris is a melting pot, like in Canada and USA. So I could taste different men from hung black guy, eastern European, Parisian..even men from Tunisia and Turkey.

I remember how happy I was LOL. Check this out: http://www.tia-phoenixx.com/node/3326

Something happened in other places around the globe when I was on vacation: Tunisia, Turkey and Samoa.

In Samoa, I went and stayed in a village by the sea for three days. Almost the whole single young men fucked me at night while I was there. the chief of the village even has to give me a hut beside his house, so i could have fun but be safe at the same time. I'm sure he also eager to fuck me, but he didn't do it. He is married. http://www.tia-phoenixx.com/node/3336

None of those men paid attention to my dick either.

I don;t need any feminization surgery if I stay all the time in the western world. However, my main challenge is back to Asia, which i do it all the time since i miss my parents and family in Indonesia.
Over there, people do know that I'm a tgirl, and I don't like it. I'm too tall and too athletic for Asian standard.
Therefore, i have decided to do surgery to make me passable everywhere in the world.
That's for sure making my life easier, thus more doors will open for me.

Last but not the least. I have seen "neo" vaginas created by top surgeons. They look awesome.
I have talked to post op girls who are much happier being a post ops.
I have asked men who have been with a post ops, and they told me that they enjoyed it and they couldn't tell the differences.

In my case, I will be just fine being a post op....i can already feel it that those men are waiting.

But again, that's only my personal case, it might not be the case for every tgirls.

Will I be still successful as a post op tgirl escort as well?
Let's wait and see. I know I will, but I have to prove it to all of you first and get back in here in few years and declare it.
Most probably, I will be engaged with one of my boyfriends, but I promise at least to work for few years as a post op just for fun and to prove my basic instinct as a slut before committing my life as a wife for one guy and hopefully live happily ever after


my 2 cents




my naughty experience in Tozeur, Tunisia: http://stunningvisions.wordpress.com...ive-interview/
More and more tops who enjoy fucking me as an escort: http://www.tia-phoenixx.com/node/3344

my advice: each of us, tgirl, deep in our heart, knows whether or not our lives will be happy as a post op.
Being a post op might not be a solution for some, and to some extend, as you have already explained, they might regret their decision.
I never regret my big decision. Why?
I'm observant. it takes me years before coming up and decided to be a post op in few years.
I'm already happy as a tgirl right now, and I will be happier and feeling fabolous as a post op.
Now, am I a woman?
Well, i'm always a tomboy. But a pretty tomboy with a great body, tits and face and soon with a tight vagina. Mama mia....i'm sure those boys will be crazy lol.
btw, Here I'm in Philadelphia writing my blog before going to bed. There is one cute guy accompany me right now. And he totally agree i should be a post op.
This is what he says: Your ass is great, but soon, I can fuck your pussy too.

You are a beautiful woman Tia and you obviously have the right combination of beauty, brains,sensuality, business sense and common sense to prosper and be successful in whatever you choose to do.
I agree that a beautiful T-girl is attractive to men PERIOD, FULL STOP. The number of those who will actually have sex with her will be diminished somewhat by those have an over-all mental block due to their personal orientation, views, homophobia/transphobia, etc, etc.

When I've been in the mood to hang out on sex hook up sites like AFF and actually have NSA hookups I can pretty much pick and choose the guys who I find attractive and have the right "stats" . A lot of guys have the idea that they are the only ones and I should jump at the chance for any offer. Of course this is because what guys tell each other in the coffee room or over beers with their buds is to defend and project their macho "straight" only image to others. I usually tell them don't worry you would be surprised how many guys are attracted and turned on by TSs, I could have a "take a number" dispensed at my door and the line would never go down! LOL.

Trans-attracted guys say "Oh yeah but these guys are attracted to any dude in a dress so no big whoop". I did my own "litmus test" on that last summer as I had a TG/TS profile on AFF for the last 3 yrs. And I did notice this that guys who were telling me that I was beautiful and sexy on my webcam were saying the same thing to the guy in nylons and lingerie with a cheap wig and 5 o'clock shadow! Like WTF!!
So asked some of the guys about that next time they popped up on my webcam. They would say "Oh yeah we are just saying that to him to be nice" LOL ahh ok that doesn't help at all. My average viewers were usually about 150-200 which was very good for the member TG/TS webcams most were under 50.

Anyways I setup a female profile and said well here goes my "litmus test" as I know straight hetero males are not going to be saying anything nice about a "dude in a dress". I was in a nice push-up bra and panty set, thigh high nylons and silk robe sitting/laying on my couch. Other girls some very attractive 20's and 30's had their tits out, full on naked, or even fingering or dildoing themselves. The top ones were around the 500-600 viewers. I just gave different angles showing my cleavage, my legs, my butt and face shots with my sunglasses on of course..lol. Within 15 mins I went from last place (about 30-50 girls web-camming) to first place then my viewers kept climbing I passed 1200 viewers the pages were just flying/scrolling by until everything froze up all my boxes went blank with a big exclamation mark in the middle. I had to reboot my computer and relog on and start all over again.
Big deal guys will say guys just wanting to check out the new girl on the block see if you take all your clothes off like all the rest. Don't and bye bye or they won't watch next time. I kind of thought this too but I did know that I "passed" with flying colours not one comment in all the pages about me being anything other than a "Wow, sexy, hot, stunning, beautiful, etc. etc."
So for about 3 months I was doing this almost everyday. Same type of dress and skin exposure and everytime the same thing happened I went from last to first spot within 10-15 min or 20 max. The only ones that trumped me was someone web camming live sex! Same thing also I would climb to 1200 viewers the next closest at about 6-700 viewers, but then I would get the freeze up. Highest I got to was 1600 viewers my internet and their site must have been having a good technical day..lol.

The site gave me a free 1 yr Gold membership by the 3rd day I was there. This I'm sure they do for many females that post pics and webcam as obviously good for their business and draws the paying male customers. After about 4 months of having my fun and receiving dozens of emails from straight men, bi females, and couples wanting to meet up I got tired of having to explain why the guys needed to be at least bi-curious and feel out the women as to what they wanted most out of their bisexual encounter.

Bottom line and moral to the story? That a beautiful sexy woman with a vagina/pussy still trumps the most beautiful T-Girl for desire and demand by the raging masses. My TG/TS profile picture album sits at about 60,000 views after being on for over a year period. My female albums which have only been viewable for 6 out of the last 12 months? 450,000 views!!

[cobbler]

Well, that escalated...

I wasn't trying to make any kind of class statement when I said I thought it would be unwise to "go stealth" as you put it.
I just think it's dishonest, and therefore I can't trust that person.
If I feel I can't trust someone I sure as hell don't want to get intimate with her.
It would make me wonder what else she is not telling me.
Maybe I'm naive, but I like to think a sexual connection starts between the ears and then radiates to between the thighs.

[Tia Phoenixx]

You are a beautiful woman Tia and you obviously have the right combination of beauty, brains,sensuality, business sense and common sense to prosper and be successful in whatever you choose to do.
I agree that a beautiful T-girl is attractive to men PERIOD, FULL STOP. The number of those who will actually have sex with her will be diminished somewhat by those have an over-all mental block due to their personal orientation, views, homophobia/transphobia, etc, etc.

When I've been in the mood to hang out on sex hook up sites like AFF and actually have NSA hookups I can pretty much pick and choose the guys who I find attractive and have the right "stats" . A lot of guys have the idea that they are the only ones and I should jump at the chance for any offer. Of course this is because what guys tell each other in the coffee room or over beers with their buds is to defend and project their macho "straight" only image to others. I usually tell them don't worry you would be surprised how many guys are attracted and turned on by TSs, I could have a "take a number" dispensed at my door and the line would never go down! LOL.

Trans-attracted guys say "Oh yeah but these guys are attracted to any dude in a dress so no big whoop". I did my own "litmus test" on that last summer as I had a TG/TS profile on AFF for the last 3 yrs. And I did notice this that guys who were telling me that I was beautiful and sexy on my webcam were saying the same thing to the guy in nylons and lingerie with a cheap wig and 5 o'clock shadow! Like WTF!!
So asked some of the guys about that next time they popped up on my webcam. They would say "Oh yeah we are just saying that to him to be nice" LOL ahh ok that doesn't help at all. My average viewers were usually about 150-200 which was very good for the member TG/TS webcams most were under 50.

Anyways I setup a female profile and said well here goes my "litmus test" as I know straight hetero males are not going to be saying anything nice about a "dude in a dress". I was in a nice push-up bra and panty set, thigh high nylons and silk robe sitting/laying on my couch. Other girls some very attractive 20's and 30's had their tits out, full on naked, or even fingering or dildoing themselves. The top ones were around the 500-600 viewers. I just gave different angles showing my cleavage, my legs, my butt and face shots with my sunglasses on of course..lol. Within 15 mins I went from last place (about 30-50 girls web-camming) to first place then my viewers kept climbing I passed 1200 viewers the pages were just flying/scrolling by until everything froze up all my boxes went blank with a big exclamation mark in the middle. I had to reboot my computer and relog on and start all over again.
Big deal guys will say guys just wanting to check out the new girl on the block see if you take all your clothes off like all the rest. Don't and bye bye or they won't watch next time. I kind of thought this too but I did know that I "passed" with flying colours not one comment in all the pages about me being anything other than a "Wow, sexy, hot, stunning, beautiful, etc. etc."
So for about 3 months I was doing this almost everyday. Same type of dress and skin exposure and everytime the same thing happened I went from last to first spot within 10-15 min or 20 max. The only ones that trumped me was someone web camming live sex! Same thing also I would climb to 1200 viewers the next closest at about 6-700 viewers, but then I would get the freeze up. Highest I got to was 1600 viewers my internet and their site must have been having a good technical day..lol.

The site gave me a free 1 yr Gold membership by the 3rd day I was there. This I'm sure they do for many females that post pics and webcam as obviously good for their business and draws the paying male customers. After about 4 months of having my fun and receiving dozens of emails from straight men, bi females, and couples wanting to meet up I got tired of having to explain why the guys needed to be at least bi-curious and feel out the women as to what they wanted most out of their bisexual encounter.

Bottom line and moral to the story? That a beautiful sexy woman with a vagina/pussy still trumps the most beautiful T-Girl for desire and demand by the raging masses. My TG/TS profile picture album sits at about 60,000 views after being on for over a year period. My female albums which have only been viewable for 6 out of the last 12 months? 450,000 views!!

thanks, and your conclusion is very true. Beautiful sexy woman with a vagina still trumps over us in general, unless if we "compete" in special niche places, e.g: sex club that caters to straight , bicurious, and bisexual guys (check my example while I was in Paris). Over there, an attractive tgirl may win the competition, otherwise no.

But again, it's more than enough men who like us as a tgirl anyway. quality is more important than quantity. That's not my reason to become a post op. I have more than enough men who like me even now.


For me the reasons of being a post ops are:
1. An extension of my career, just in case, if i'm still working as an escort in the next 10-30 years.
In the western world, I might not be in high demand as a post op, but hey..I can work in a brothel in Cyprus, Greece, or Turkey and get laid by 25 guys a day for $40 each...so i still can earn $1000 a day when i'm turning 55 LOL
As you already mentioned, feminine beauty has the strongest power. Me with vagina, will enhance those power if i work in the right places/countries.

2. More stability, social acceptance, window opportunity to venture the real business world
3. No testosterone = less horny, less aggressive, less adventurous, less independent. Not to mention i can keep my thick hair forever.
The moment, i have vagina, i will be more calm and less "jumpy". For me to be less horny is good since i'm too horny at the moment. I'm thinking about sex and money all the time. I will be less adventurous and start longing for companionship. I will start dreaming and calling my boyfriends, instead of them calling me.

So all in all, being a post op will be a good decision for my future.
But of course, not right now. My dick still sells, so i will keep it till the next 3 to 5 years




happy Sunday (it's raining here in Philadelphia. I'm stuck in my room)

[TSFantasia]

I wasn't trying to make any kind of class statement when I said I thought it would be unwise to "go stealth" as you put it.
I just think it's dishonest, and therefore I can't trust that person.
If I feel I can't trust someone I sure as hell don't want to get intimate with her.
It would make me wonder what else she is not telling me.
Maybe I'm naive, but I like to think a sexual connection starts between the ears and then radiates to between the thighs.

Not really Cobbler I like debates, even heated ones I can still shake hands laugh and say "That was fun let's go for beers now!"
In debating you can vehemently attack another person's position without attacking or disliking the person.

I still disagree with your position that I would be dishonest for saying I am a female or a woman, without immediately disclosing that I am a post-op girl, as both are true. If you asked me specifically were you born as a genetic or bio female THEN I would be dishonest to reply "Yes". If you compliment a woman on her beauty or sexy body does she need to immediately disclose to you "Well you should know that my tits are fake, I've had lipo and a tummy tuck, Ive had lip and cheek injections, had a nose job and chin implants and botox injections every 6 months, but thanks for the compiments Hun!" ? If you have sex with her and enjoy it and she tells you this afterwards are you going to be upset that she was not honest with you. That you now feel dirty and cheated for having sex with such a fake woman?

You may object and say well this is totally different? Why because of transphobic/homophobic societal views that say I am not a "real woman" ? That is really where these objections come from. A guy going "Eeeewwww that's sooo disgusting I just stuck my tongue or dick into some "dudes" "inside-out-penis-skin" vagina. It's like eating sushi loving it and then someone telling you what it is and then getting nauseated. It's all in your head

And I still like you opposing views or not lets get some beers and fuck! LOL

[rider014]

Yaaaa Welllll

June(honey booboo's mom)...... Apparently she is a real woman! I'll take "fake" any day

[TSFantasia]

When You Get Your Knowledge of Women (GG,TG) From Porn Sites

If you get your knowledge of women (GG or TG) from porn sites and approach them in real life on that basis you can expect the following.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVkLSUi8ZhA