Half or Full Hour? Oh yeah it's not just about the time :)

[rider014]

Bonus!!

Babe,
xoxo [/FONT][/SIZE]

Should be able to hit expert level then lol

[TSFantasia]

giving bb bj for hour clients but not half hour clients is pretty petty IMHO.

I don't think so a bb bj or bare oral anything is not standard practice with escorts. I've started doing duos with an experienced black girl dominatrix who charges 350-450/hr. I was there with one of her clients at an additional 300/hr (he wanted me there for a minimum of 2hrs). When I started to give him a bb bj she looked at me like "WTF are you doing?!" Then she smiled and said let me get you a wrapper for that

[bb420]

I always go for an hour, however my last few sessions were pretty rushed an barely even lasted 30 mins, which made me regret not opting for the half-hour rate instead.

I have had some really AMAZING encounters before, but recently the last few I had were a bit underwhelming....

I've only seen 2 TS escorts in the past year. Really beautiful girls but just felt so "routine".
Some oral for like 5 minutes... "Ok, want get fucked now?" "oh ok"
Get fucked for like 5-10 minutes... "Ok, ready to cum now? "ya sure, why not"
I cum and clean up. She doesn't cum, just starts getting dressed.
Small talk doesn't really go anywhere, no point in staying and having any kind of conversation.
I take the hint, thank them for their time. After I leave I check my watch and its only been like 20-30 mins, every though I threw down 3 bills.
I check their ad afterwards and see a 30 min option that I probably should've taken instead.

oh well

[Gypsy1955]

I always go for an hour, however my last few sessions were pretty rushed an barely even lasted 30 mins, which made me regret not opting for the half-hour rate instead.

I have had some really AMAZING encounters before, but recently the last few I had were a bit underwhelming....

I've only seen 2 TS escorts in the past year. Really beautiful girls but just felt so "routine".
Some oral for like 5 minutes... "Ok, want get fucked now?" "oh ok"
Get fucked for like 5-10 minutes... "Ok, ready to cum now? "ya sure, why not"
I cum and clean up. She doesn't cum, just starts getting dressed.
Small talk doesn't really go anywhere, no point in staying and having any kind of conversation.
I take the hint, thank them for their time. After I leave I check my watch and its only been like 20-30 mins, every though I threw down 3 bills.
I check their ad afterwards and see a 30 min option that I probably should've taken instead.

oh well

Sounds to me that you might need to be more communicative or maybe take some control of your session. Turn up the heat!

[ladyluv]

I have never taken the half hour option. Very impersonal ! I want to be able to talk with the girl, get to know her a bit, (or get caught up with her life if I already know her) and not be rushed. A half hour ?!?! That would be treating the girl like a piece of meat - drop your pants, get it done, leave - very demeaning. May as well stay at home and take things into your own hands !

Just goes to show that everyone is different. When I used to see escorts, I didn't care to know them or chat with them much. I went in, did the business and left. Some of them would ask me questions about my work, hobbies, etc., and I'd just lie about it. I'm not there to make friends, talk or tell any personal stories. Also if they were doing a covered bj, that was the last time they ever saw my face.

[TrannyLover17]

Sounds to me that you might need to be more communicative or maybe take some control of your session. Turn up the heat!

Good point, reminds me of my most recent time fucking a TG. After a bit of mutual oral, and sword-fighting, she got on her hands and knees. I asked her to get on her back, put her legs on my shoulders, and banged her like that. It was great fun. I much prefer to be the dominant one in the session.

[F100]

No Gypsie1955, we are not all treating them like pieces of meat ! These girls are people with feelings who are doing what they need to do in their situation. Some of them may prefer to just keep their interactions with clients as purely professional. They will let you know by their actions or direct communication. Having had a fairly long term relationship with a Tgirl (and many dates with others), I have had long conversations with lots of them in other than provider/client settings. Some of them are in a tough place - family issues, immigration issues, money issues, education goals, personal relationships, sometimes addiction problems, and their transition. If you have an opportunity to get to know them on a personal level - well, it will be an eye opener. One word - RESPECT.

[bb420]

Sounds to me that you might need to be more communicative or maybe take some control of your session. Turn up the heat!

No, i think it's just bad luck. I've been with other TS before and it's be great, it's just my last few have been disappointing.
I've seen several female escorts the past year too and have had great sessions, so I don't think it's just me.
You just can't "click" with everybody.

[TSFantasia]

Just goes to show that everyone is different. When I used to see escorts, I didn't care to know them or chat with them much. I went in, did the business and left. Some of them would ask me questions about my work, hobbies, etc., and I'd just lie about it. I'm not there to make friends, talk or tell any personal stories. Also if they were doing a covered bj, that was the last time they ever saw my face.

Seeing an escort is definitely an express lane to sex and intimacy and that's what guys are paying for. Skipping the pretend I like you, small talk over drinks and fidgeting in the movie theatre hoping this bitch is going to spread her legs or at least drop to her knees before the night is out! LOL. Girls probably try to engage in the small talk because some clients want or expect it and they don't want to be accused of being cold or too down to business and disinterested in their reviews . But the client is not there to be my therapist , my friend, my BF, etc. he's there to let me suck his cock and him mine and to fuck me or have me fuck him. Blow a load and get on with his work day or go home to his wife or GF.

And it's up to every girl as to how they value their services and personal health. At least I'm up front with what I will and wont do for how much so there are NO SURPRISES when I won't give a bb bj or top the guy for the half hr rate. If he wants to pay another $100 that's fine as it's more about $$'s equal services provided more than extra minutes on the clock for me

[Gypsy1955]

Piece Of Meat

No Gypsie1955, we are not all treating them like pieces of meat ! These girls are people with feelings who are doing what they need to do in their situation. Some of them may prefer to just keep their interactions with clients as purely professional. They will let you know by their actions or direct communication. Having had a fairly long term relationship with a Tgirl (and many dates with others), I have had long conversations with lots of them in other than provider/client settings. Some of them are in a tough place - family issues, immigration issues, money issues, education goals, personal relationships, sometimes addiction problems, and their transition. If you have an opportunity to get to know them on a personal level - well, it will be an eye opener. One word - RESPECT.

F100 you in fact confirmed what I was saying. Treat the girls with as much respect as you like, stimulating conversation, all that stuff...in the end you're there for 1 thing only, their bodies. I also have a great friendship with a lady I had started off seeing as a client. Me personally, I treat everyone with respect but I'm not talking about only me. You talk of getting to know one on a personnel level as if they are different from the rest of us. They are not, I'm certain they have similar DNA, cells and molecules as we do.

Some of them are in a tough place as you explain...then is what we are doing not exploitation? If you want to be respectful and nice and to help out why not just have that great conversation, then give them the money and not require them to have sex with you for it? I'm sure you'll be respected much more for that honourable gesture.

Here's a scenario for you, think about this please. You're an escort...let's say, between 20-30 years old. An appointment comes and knocks on the door. You open it. The man on the other side is 65-80 years old, maybe fat, bald, hair coming from your ears and nose, or 350 pounds, or looks like Elephant Man,or he's a hunk with a bad attitude and you don't like him, whatever. Once you open that door imagine trying to hide your shock, trying to smile and be inviting, friendly...welcoming. Then you have to have sex with him because he's there for 1 reason only...get his rocks off. But you have to have sex for all the reasons you say above. Again is it not exploitation?

I think we're getting off track here. We don't want to drive clients away with feelings of guilt or remorse. The girls are beautiful inside and out, have a good time! Be nice all you want, whether 30 minutes or 60 minutes the end goal is the same!

[TSFantasia]

F100 you in fact confirmed what I was saying. Treat the girls with as much respect as you like, stimulating conversation, all that stuff...in the end you're there for 1 thing only, their bodies. I also have a great friendship with a lady I had started off seeing as a client. Me personally, I treat everyone with respect but I'm not talking about only me. You talk of getting to know one on a personnel level as if they are different from the rest of us. They are not, I'm certain they have similar DNA, cells and molecules as we do.

Some of them are in a tough place as you explain...then is what we are doing not exploitation? If you want to be respectful and nice and to help out why not just have that great conversation, then give them the money and not require them to have sex with you for it? I'm sure you'll be respected much more for that honourable gesture.

Here's a scenario for you, think about this please. You're an escort...let's say, between 20-30 years old. An appointment comes and knocks on the door. You open it. The man on the other side is 65-80 years old, maybe fat, bald, hair coming from your ears and nose, or 350 pounds, or looks like Elephant Man,or he's a hunk with a bad attitude and you don't like him, whatever. Once you open that door imagine trying to hide your shock, trying to smile and be inviting, friendly...welcoming. Then you have to have sex with him because he's there for 1 reason only...get his rocks off. But you have to have sex for all the reasons you say above. Again is it not exploitation?

I think we're getting off track here. We don't want to drive clients away with feelings of guilt or remorse. The girls are beautiful inside and out, have a good time! Be nice all you want, whether 30 minutes or 60 minutes the end goal is the same!

Escorts will have the occasional undesirable client or bad appointment. Most will just accept this as part of the business or will have screening methods to avoid most of these. I find most arrogant bad attitude guys give themselves away in their first few texts/emails and once I pick up on that I just stop responding or say Sorry I'm not available. Every service provider has the right to refuse service to someone for extremely poor hygiene, body odour, etc. I don't think going to an escort constitutes exploitation unless that person is an unwilling participant and being controlled by pimps or criminal elements to be doing what they are doing .
Making a 100G a year for a few hours work each day, which most still find most aspects of pleasurable can't be all bad

On the flip side clients get bad appts. too ie. girls not looking like their pics, some with bad hygiene, bad attitudes, rushed service, not providing the services paid for or agreed on, etc. So perhaps that is exploitation of the clients most of whom would be too flustered to ask for part or all of their money back. ME if I was the client? I would have security and the police dragging me out screaming "Give me my money back Bitch!!!" with a chunk of her hair still in my hand. LOL

[Gypsy1955]

Exploitation

Hello Fantasia...exploitation is also taking advantage of a person who may be in a bad situation. There are many situations of exploitation. Have you seen the video where a man (a really big fucker) pays homeless men 50 bucks to kick them in the groin as hard as he can? Vancouver I believe. Although the homeless man willingly decided to do it...$50 is a lot of money to him. That's exploitation. When a person decides to escort to earn money for reasons that may include needing to pay for operations, paying rent, heat, utilities, food, clothing, education, you can't get a decent job due to job profiling and screened out for race or sexuality. Often times it's out of need, not because the person "wants" to be an escort. Pimpin' is also part of the exploitation. Of course I'm not talking about the people who do it because they want to, or maybe they simply enjoy it.

[TSFantasia]

Hello Fantasia...exploitation is also taking advantage of a person who may be in a bad situation. There are many situations of exploitation. Have you seen the video where a man (a really big fucker) pays homeless men 50 bucks to kick them in the groin as hard as he can? Vancouver I believe. Although the homeless man willingly decided to do it...$50 is a lot of money to him. That's exploitation. When a person decides to escort to earn money for reasons that may include needing to pay for operations, paying rent, heat, utilities, food, clothing, education, you can't get a decent job due to job profiling and screened out for race or sexuality. Often times it's out of need, not because the person "wants" to be an escort. Pimpin' is also part of the exploitation. Of course I'm not talking about the people who do it because they want to, or maybe they simply enjoy it.

I get your point people can be exploited because of vulnerability, poverty or addictions. But making a career choice based on paying rent, food and bills like anyone else is not exploitation. Its simple math they can make more in a few hours as an escort than working all week at McDs or Walmart. While a few may feel their circumstances are compelling them to escort most are "laughing all the way to the bank!"

[dom r]

Funny thing an escort asks which rate 30 or 60 minutes and how am I suppose to know in advance how many precise minutes and seconds will go by til I and she cums? ha. When an escort offers a 30 minute date, WHEREZ the clock with the digital display in the room? I mean if the date only took 29 minutes, he pays the lower rate, but if it hits 31 minutes he pays the hour rate. So it sure seems important to have a clock in the room but I never saw one yet and a number of times when the date is over and I get back into my car to see that only 28 minutes went by when I paid for a 60 minute date, would I ever tell the escort that I paid for an hour rate when it was only 28 minutes? No way I won't, its ok if I gave her the extra especially if she came too but a clock would be nice in the room. And then I actually bought a watch and wore it each time but did I ever use it ta save som money, not once.

[BIG MIKE]

I don't like to rush. An hour is fine, hour and a half is perfect. No rushing, get to know each other a bit. Yes, us guys are there to get our rocks off, and the girls are there to make money...and to get your rocks off!!!LOL. But it doesn't mean it has to be rushed or impersonal. Some like it that way and that's fine. Everyone is different and has their preferences, I just prefer to spend a little quality time with someone.