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    So I'm currently considering a few offers to do some porn shoots ( well solo shoots first anyways) and
    weighing the pros and cons of doing so. Besides the added exposure the money is definitely not that
    appealing .

    Wouldn't mind some feedback from other girls as to what they found to be the pros and cons of
    going that route or why they decided against it. Guys can chime in too does seeing a girl in
    porn pics/vids increase your interest in seeing a girl? Or is the prevalent view/opinion that
    porn "stars" have bad service and conceited bad diva attitudes?
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  • #2
    Hundreds of dollars an hour is not appealing?
    Please explain.

    If you truly want to do adult modelling and have no bad feelings about it, then do it.

    If you have concerns about doing it and are only doing it as escort promotion, don't do it.
    If you are expecting studio modelling done to YOUR specifications, then don't do it
    Especially if you do hardcore you are going to be sweating your hair will be out of place there may be snot coming out of your nose.
    You are not going to look good on videos or pictures sometimes. Solo shoots you can control a little more how you look.

    If you don't like the money, possibly don't like what may be produced and have second thoughts about the future, it probably is not for you.
    You are selling risque media to a company that you will have no future control of, you cannot have it removed or erased.

    Basically if you have to think too hard about it, it is probably not for you.
    If you do it, make sure you know the extent that the material may be used.

    Sometimes it may be used only on one website, but it could get used on many websites or even released on DVD without your knowledge or subsequent payment.
    Sometimes the intent is the company will not only use it for their own endeavours, but then sell it to other companies to use.
    Do you trust the intentions of the agent of the company you are dealing with.




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    • #3
      Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
      Hundreds of dollars an hour is not appealing?
      Please explain.

      If you truly want to do adult modelling and have no bad feelings about it, then do it.

      If you have concerns about doing it and are only doing it as escort promotion, don't do it.
      If you are expecting studio modelling done to YOUR specifications, then don't do it
      Especially if you do hardcore you are going to be sweating your hair will be out of place there may be snot coming out of your nose.
      You are not going to look good on videos or pictures sometimes. Solo shoots you can control a little more how you look.

      If you don't like the money, possibly don't like what may be produced and have second thoughts about the future, it probably is not for you.
      You are selling risque media to a company that you will have no future control of, you cannot have it removed or erased.

      Basically if you have to think too hard about it, it is probably not for you.
      If you do it, make sure you know the extent that the material may be used.

      Sometimes it may be used only on one website, but it could get used on many websites or even released on DVD without your knowledge or subsequent payment.
      Sometimes the intent is the company will not only use it for their own endeavours, but then sell it to other companies to use.
      Do you trust the intentions of the agent of the company you are dealing with.





      Co-sign.

      Also I might add that work is not that available. Studios shoot what is hot at the moment. If you are not comfortable with the fact that you may only shoot a few times a year or uncomfortable with the fact that you may not find other work again...this is not for you. There is a limited amount of shoots available and because of this, each one of us must remain marketable, fresh and we have to sell. Lastly, be prepared to do a lot of work to market your own stuff. Why? Because if your stuff doesn't sell, you will not get a call back. Contracts are not offered to TS performers as there is not enough work.

      Crag is completely right. You have very little control over your material. I often meet with my crew before any still shoots to discuss features or things I would like to avoid. I personally am much more comfortable on video than I am on still photography. Most porn is shot in bright light and in HD which leaves zero room for error. If you have any kind of insecurities about your body, they will be magnified on camera and video.

      ALSO....Be prepared for the fact that everyone will find out. You family, your friends and your co-workers....can you handle that?
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      • #4
        It's not really about the hourly rate it's about selling your pics with no say where or how they are used and no further income from the use of your pics and vids other than the initial shoot.
        The good thing about shemale/T-girl porn is no one admits to watching it to family, friends, or co-workers..lol..so even if someone you know sees it who are they going to admit this too?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post
          Hundreds of dollars an hour is not appealing?
          Please explain.

          If you truly want to do adult modelling and have no bad feelings about it, then do it.

          If you have concerns about doing it and are only doing it as escort promotion, don't do it.
          If you are expecting studio modelling done to YOUR specifications, then don't do it
          Especially if you do hardcore you are going to be sweating your hair will be out of place there may be snot coming out of your nose.
          You are not going to look good on videos or pictures sometimes. Solo shoots you can control a little more how you look.

          If you don't like the money, possibly don't like what may be produced and have second thoughts about the future, it probably is not for you.
          You are selling risque media to a company that you will have no future control of, you cannot have it removed or erased.

          Basically if you have to think too hard about it, it is probably not for you.
          If you do it, make sure you know the extent that the material may be used.

          Sometimes it may be used only on one website, but it could get used on many websites or even released on DVD without your knowledge or subsequent payment.
          Sometimes the intent is the company will not only use it for their own endeavours, but then sell it to other companies to use.
          Do you trust the intentions of the agent of the company you are dealing with.




          I too will Co-Sign

          I think very important points have been made above by both posters. If the money is not the allurement, then there are some very difficult situational hazards to navigate. Now, not speaking as someone who knows a great deal about the pornography industry, It seems what Ms. Wild is saying has a lot of sense. Also, you will absolutely not have control over that kind of material in a digital age. Once a movie is released, or posted on a website or what not, it takes one person to rip it off, post it in one of thousands of torrent based downloading communities, and it will emerge in everything across the WWW, and perhaps not in ways that you would like it too. There exists very mean people who make very mean compilations of video clips and post them all over the place. The women in these clips, however beautiful and lovely a person they might be will be pegged as " part of that compil" or what not for ma very long time to come. I see this truly affecting one's escort business, and most probably not in fantastically positive ways. Fantasia, you are gorgeous woman, and the people who come to see you probably, along with being attracted to your beauty, come for private intimacy. Having yourself in various videos, of various styles (eg. hardcore, or ganbang, like Crag was saying) might indeed then attract a very different type of client... and perhaps not one that you would have otherwise expected. Obviously the choice is yours, but I see many more cons than pros. It sounds like what you have made for yourself already is a truly unique, engaging and sensuous enterprise... I would hate for some raunchy vid to spoil that in any way for you.

          that might have been my three-cents rather than the two asked for, but I thought it deemed another coin.

          -Mark
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          • #6
            If you live in a fairly large city doing porn can help a genetic girl demand a higher rate for her escorting. This is the case for most straight porn performers. Most genetic girls do porn to keep their names out there so they can charge more when they escort, this is where the real money is theses days for a porn star. Girl that doesn't do porn? She can charge anywhere from $250 - $500 an hour, these are your average girls, not including VIP's. Take the same girl have her do the whirlwind of porn, as many scenes as she can pump out in a couple of months, if she's young, new and not a flake she can end up making $1500-$2000 an hour escorting. These are girls that have made names for themselves in porn recently and established stars that have been around for 10 or more years. These days girls do porn only so that they can demand a higher rate for their escorting services because there is no good money in porn anymore. There just isn't enough work to live off the money you make from it.

            Does this translate into the world of tgirl porn? yes and no. Girls that are legit stars like Vaniity, Mia Isabella, Yasmin Lee, Domino Presley and a couple of other girls can and do charge and make more because they do porn and the public have decided they are stars. But again, there are tgirls I've seen do lots of porn and still not be able to charge a huge amount of extra coin for escorting. The girls that can demand more all reside mostly in large cities (LA, New York). The bigger the city is the more potential clients with that type of money exist. If you are in a smaller city I think it's highly unlikely doing porn will make a difference when it comes to how much you can charge for escort sessions.

            Put it this way, the girls I mentioned are known to all of us because they do porn, otherwise we wouldn't even know they exist unless we lived in the cities they reside and work out of.

            Doing porn is about getting more exposure, becoming known to guys who watch TS porn (which is a lot!) But you need to be in a position to take advantage of that exposure, that means either living in a very large metropolitan city or doing a lot of touring. If neither apply to you I would think it's a waste of time outside of the extra cash you'll make from the shoots themselves, which isn't all that much these days.

            And keep in mind, in the internet age your movie clips and pics will end up on all kinds of sites and you won't get paid for it, that's the nature of the porn beast these days. You can look at it two ways, that you're not getting paid for the content you're supposed to own or you can look at it as free publicity, it all depends on how you look at it.

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            • #7
              Ain't worth it

              Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
              So I'm currently considering a few offers to do some porn shoots ( well solo shoots first anyways) and
              weighing the pros and cons of doing so. Besides the added exposure the money is definitely not that
              appealing .

              Wouldn't mind some feedback from other girls as to what they found to be the pros and cons of
              going that route or why they decided against it. Guys can chime in too does seeing a girl in
              porn pics/vids increase your interest in seeing a girl? Or is the prevalent view/opinion that
              porn "stars" have bad service and conceited bad diva attitudes?
              You asked me this a while back and I think I sat on the fence and didn't really give you a straight answer. Doesn't mean I didn't have an opinion at the time. My opinion hasn't changed and it has been echoed by the responses so far. Escorting is one thing, porn is another.

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              • #8
                Do your own shit..

                Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                It's not really about the hourly rate it's about selling your pics with no say where or how they are used and no further income from the use of your pics and vids other than the initial shoot.
                The good thing about shemale/T-girl porn is no one admits to watching it to family, friends, or co-workers..lol..so even if someone you know sees it who are they going to admit this too?
                Do your own stuff girl..

                Make a paid access website and a bunch of videos.. Keep adding more, doing shoots and maintain 100% control of all your content..

                I haven't done all that much yet and it's worked out good.. I have an average of 10GB of good quality daily traffic..

                Residual income and total control..

                Studios use girls for $$$.. it's what they do and part of the business..

                I have a new video coming soon with me and a really pretty little Asian female sub..



                But anyhow.. You're smart.. you have time.. make your own site and figure out how to promote it..

                Oh.. Make sure you get good people to do your shoots and take all the raw images and video from them. Make sure when they leave they have none of your shit.. If they don't agree to give you all the raw material find someone else..

                A super successful example that I find inspiring would be joannajet who has seen awesome success..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AlexisDVyne View Post
                  Do your own stuff girl..

                  Make a paid access website and a bunch of videos.. Keep adding more, doing shoots and maintain 100% control of all your content..

                  I haven't done all that much yet and it's worked out good.. I have an average of 10GB of good quality daily traffic..

                  Residual income and total control..

                  Studios use girls for $$$.. it's what they do and part of the business..

                  I have a new video coming soon with me and a really pretty little Asian female sub..



                  But anyhow.. You're smart.. you have time.. make your own site and figure out how to promote it..

                  Oh.. Make sure you get good people to do your shoots and take all the raw images and video from them. Make sure when they leave they have none of your shit.. If they don't agree to give you all the raw material find someone else..

                  A super successful example that I find inspiring would be joannajet who has seen awesome success..
                  Joannajet would be nowhere had she not done lots of shoots for websites before she start the solo thing.
                  She was one of the original models for Shemaleyum.com and did many shoots for them and others before starting her own site.
                  (Also she designed shemaleyums first logo)

                  It is getting harder and harder to start your own site with no traffic and expect it to make money.
                  If you really want to make money on a pay site you need partners with traffic or you need to get into the game a long time ago.

                  Anyone starting a site from scratch right now will probably need years to see a profit.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                    It's not really about the hourly rate it's about selling your pics with no say where or how they are used and no further income from the use of your pics and vids other than the initial shoot.
                    The good thing about shemale/T-girl porn is no one admits to watching it to family, friends, or co-workers..lol..so even if someone you know sees it who are they going to admit this too?
                    It is up to the person how they feel about it.
                    If you prefer more anonymity don't do porn.
                    Your family or friends may not say anything but what is to stop a stranger from approaching you at a restaurant or other public place?

                    Many like the porn better than escorting because they do not necessarily have to have sex with someone they don't know or like.
                    In porn you can do a lot of solo and never have to touch, see or smell anyone else that is involved.
                    In a hardcore scene you are pretty much guaranteed a decently hot guy or partner.

                    Escorting is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get.
                    You could get beaten, robbed or diseased, on the flip side you could have fun and make some cash.
                    With porn you pretty much always know what you are going to get.

                    If anonymity is your main problem i wouldn't do it.
                    Worrying that your stuff will get all over with no controls is an anonymity issue really.
                    If you don't care who sees it, there really isn't an issue with controlling it.



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                    • #11
                      Personally I love seeing a video of a potential provider in action. It has often been the factor that made my decision. I recently saw an ad for a provider in my area. I had seen her before years ago and remembered her as absolutely gorgeous, but somewhat boring. There was a link in her ad to a video of her with who I believe was her boyfriend at the time. The video reminded me of everything I did with her and was really quite boring. So I decided against it.

                      Had that video been hot, she looked really into it and was verbally expressive, I would have seen her in a minute. Make the other head think for them, it will always be a money maker.

                      I have no idea what the industry is like but enjoyed reading others advice to you.

                      Good Luck, if you need a masked avenger in your video let me know. I work real cheap.


                      KC

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KCinToronto View Post
                        Personally I love seeing a video of a potential provider in action. It has often been the factor that made my decision. I recently saw an ad for a provider in my area. I had seen her before years ago and remembered her as absolutely gorgeous, but somewhat boring. There was a link in her ad to a video of her with who I believe was her boyfriend at the time. The video reminded me of everything I did with her and was really quite boring. So I decided against it.

                        Had that video been hot, she looked really into it and was verbally expressive, I would have seen her in a minute. Make the other head think for them, it will always be a money maker.

                        I have no idea what the industry is like but enjoyed reading others advice to you.

                        Good Luck, if you need a masked avenger in your video let me know. I work real cheap.


                        KC
                        I will be taking auditions at Goodhandies when I come down to see who has the "equipment" to star in my helmet cam vids and who is just bluffing..lol.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                          I will be taking auditions at Goodhandies when I come down to see who has the "equipment" to star in my helmet cam vids and who is just bluffing..lol.

                          I'm a bluffer then. (wish I was a fluffer) I can never get out during week nights.
                          Plus the "equipment" need is initimidating. LOL


                          KC

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TSFantasia
                            Yes I agree that a person needs a kick start from established sites before attempting to go solo. Plus the sites have the photographers, sets, and porn actors for the hardcore scenes. I think Eva Cassini was on here promoting herself and her site a few months back but was hosted by Grooby.

                            I'm an exhibitionist so I'm sure a lot of my amateur stuff is out there in cyber space already. I think sex is a natural thing between 2 or more people and everyone is getting their freak on. So it's just a matter of whether a person looks good doing it and people want to watch
                            Eva is responsible for all the work on her site, it is only hosted by grooby.
                            She is pretty much starting a solo site from scratch with little notoriety.

                            If you are doing work for others you cannot worry whether people want to watch it.
                            You do the shoot then if people like it, you will get more work.
                            If it goes no where and you do a few shoots, this is very common.
                            However if you are marketable and popular you will get more work automatically.
                            This is the danger of opening a solo site before you have proven you can gain a mass following.

                            Some have asked me to pay them more per shoot.
                            I tell them that if they are as good as they think they are, they will get far more work than the next girl.
                            However it may never be more than 2 or 3 shoots a year for any one site, really.
                            Once a month if they are very popular.

                            So if you don't care about people seeing the material that is the first thing.
                            However now days your stuff can fade away very quickly, so that is a good thing if you decide to quit.
                            It will still be out there, but everyone wants the fresh stuff all the time.

                            Next you have to strive to look good as best you can, but in the porn business you are taking pictures and video in uncompromising situations. It's not all glamour and beauty.
                            Some girls cannot handle it if they have no editorial control because they won't like 80% of the material because they are too picky. You are nude, there is really bright lights and everything shows. It is sometimes hard to look glamorous with your nutsac up around your chin, or, OMG there is a couple long hairs that got missed on your ass.

                            The stuff that porn aficionados want to see is pretty much the opposite of what most tgirls want out of a shoot.
                            You have to be able to accept what the producer creates is marketable even though you don't feel glamorous or whatever in most of it. You have to be able to look at your stuff and not hate it after. If you can't get over this, it probably is not for you.



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                            • #15
                              I might be able to shed a little light here.

                              Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post
                              So I'm currently considering a few offers to do some porn shoots ( well solo shoots first anyways) and
                              weighing the pros and cons of doing so. Besides the added exposure the money is definitely not that
                              appealing .

                              Wouldn't mind some feedback from other girls as to what they found to be the pros and cons of
                              going that route or why they decided against it. Guys can chime in too does seeing a girl in
                              porn pics/vids increase your interest in seeing a girl? Or is the prevalent view/opinion that
                              porn "stars" have bad service and conceited bad diva attitudes?
                              I've done a couple of porn scenes and met a few pornstars. The ones that I met and worked with have been very cool (esp Eva Cassini who I have done a scene with ). You are right about the money. A few hundred bucks for a scene is a nice payday, but it isn't like winning the lottery, it is not going to change your life. Steven Grooby published this back in March to answer these kind of questions. As a camgirl exposure is something I want. More eyes => better page placement => more money.
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