how many tgirls actually get picked up by STR8 MEN??

[GTanker]

I try to stay away from labels...I like sex with women, I love passionate sex with transgender women. How they are plumbed really is secondary. No idea why I prefer trans women, just wired that way.

Never tried to figure it out past that physical and psychological attraction, for myself or anyone else. It is what it is, for each of us.

The vast majority posters here clearly respect a person's right to make their own sexual "grey" determinations for themselves, regardless if they agree with it personally or not. Just wanted to say how refreshing that is. Thanks everyone.

[Mugsammy]

Wikipedia

OK.. try and keep it simple..

Bisexual means that you have sex with members of both sexes.. men and women..

Heterosexual means that you have sex with someone of the opposite sex..

Gay means that you have sex with someone of the same sex..

Omni-sexual is someone that will fuck just about anything..

If a trans woman is viewed as a woman by a heterosexual male and he has sex with her it doesn't make him bisexual. The heterosexual man won't have sex with another man but he might have sex with a woman that has a cock..

A guy cannot be bisexual unless he enjoys having sex with another guy and also with women..

Now the activities that go on between a heterosexual male and a transwoman don't really matter.. it's sex..

Lots of hetero males are into strap-on/pegging and anal stimulation.. but these men will never have sex with another man..

I dominate a number of men.. some admit they want to suck men's cocks.. others are terrified of the idea..

Perhaps that might put some lines between the shades of grey..

I prefer to agree with your definitions over wiki's lol!

Wikipedia definition includes men having sex with TG's as bi as do many TG's. I consider myself to be 100% straight. Im not afraid to suck a TG cock...funny part is, I get no real pleasure from it either. I do it from curiosity and I want to please. It feels like "out of body" to me. However, I'm going to enjoy your body and that includes me handling your goods...by wiki's definition that is bi-sex. A cock is a cock whether it's on a male (disgusting!) or on a TG. So, I like your definition best.

I also respect Fantasia, who I understand her opinion as (this is not a quote) a man sucking a cock, or getting fucked in the ass (never will be me!) is at least bi!

Medically, or until the rules are changed and TG's are considered women or however that goes, the definition won't change.

[TSFantasia]

Pansexual-Better descriptor for trans-attracted men

I prefer to agree with your definitions over wiki's lol!

Wikipedia definition includes men having sex with TG's as bi as do many TG's. I consider myself to be 100% straight. Im not afraid to suck a TG cock...funny part is, I get no real pleasure from it either. I do it from curiosity and I want to please. It feels like "out of body" to me. However, I'm going to enjoy your body and that includes me handling your goods...by wiki's definition that is bi-sex. A cock is a cock whether it's on a male (disgusting!) or on a TG. So, I like your definition best.

I also respect Fantasia, who I understand her opinion as (this is not a quote) a man sucking a cock, or getting fucked in the ass (never will be me!) is at least bi!

Medically, or until the rules are changed and TG's are considered women or however that goes, the definition won't change.

Well after all that I've said I think the term "pansexual or omnisexual" is a better descriptor for trans attracted men because it better describes the interaction and attraction to t-girls and having sex in different configurations with another cock on a t-girl while having no interest for the same kind of activity with other men. So if a person's attraction is to femininity and womanly features they will most like be aroused by women, t-girls, and attractive cross-dressers regardless of genitalia attached. Which is kind of a good thing as the attraction and arousal is not based on genitals alone.

"Pansexuality, or omnisexuality,^[1] is sexual attraction, sexual desire, romantic love, or emotional attraction toward people of any sex or gender identity.^[2][3] Self-identified pansexuals may consider pansexuality a sexual orientation,^[3] and refer to themselves as gender-blind, asserting that gender and sex are insignificant or irrelevant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others.^[4] The Oxford Dictionary of English defines pansexuality as, "not limited or inhibited in sexual choice with regard to gender or activity".^[5]
The concept of pansexuality rejects the gender binary, the "notion of two genders and indeed of specific sexual orientations",^[3] as pansexual people are open to relationships with people who do not identify as strictly men or women" - Wikipedia

[wannatryit]

I consider myself straight. I once had a girlfriend who was very into anal. Does that make me bit or gay? She was into my anal area too. I liked it. The licking was very mutually satisfying. I she snuck a finger up there once and found my 'magic spot' and that was it. I loved having that spot played with. She is gone now and it's real hard to feel the unexpected pleasure when your by yourself. Not all girls are interested in that area. I was looking for a girl who would provide a prostate massage then thought I should find one with toys. It got me thinking why not try the real thing. I love having my p-spot played with. Its a very unique feeling. I've never cum so hard. I am so not into guys for sexual fulfilment so
Thank You T-girls. I never thought I'd put one in my mouth but I did on a dildo for my girlfriend and I will for a t-girl too. The best sexual experience is always mutual pleasure. And the real thing can not be duplicated by a toy.

[Bawb]

i can never ever find any sexy tgirls just roaming the streets or at malls, on transit, walking, etc what gives ?? where are all of yous hiding !? do you have maids and assistance to assist you ?i an only find you on HOMEWOOD or on church st at some bar or club or some randon escort listing..smh
i would like to run into you and meet like real people ..im a STR8 MAN and i have my eye open all times im in search ladies ..so if you like a good man im the one

I found a post-op Tgirl on craigslist who was not a sex trade worker.
We met for coffee and things went well and now she's my GF. I stopped seeing escort after we decided to be monogamous.
she is mature, passable; if you walked by her on the street you'd never think "there goes a TG"
Mind you 95% of the people on craigslist are flakes, I had to go through years of time wasters before I found my princess.

[GTanker]

I found a post-op Tgirl on craigslist who was not a sex trade worker.
We met for coffee and things went well and now she's my GF. I stopped seeing escort after we decided to be monogamous.
she is mature, passable; if you walked by her on the street you'd never think "there goes a TG"
Mind you 95% of the people on craigslist are flakes, I had to go through years of time wasters before I found my princess.

Been trying to find the same thing for a long time. CL is pretty messed up from what I have seen. Had one trans girlfriend years ago, was the best relationship of my life. They can be complicated women, but when it clicks, wow.

All the best to you both.

[xoxJanexox]

i can never ever find any sexy tgirls just roaming the streets or at malls, on transit, walking, etc what gives ?? where are all of yous hiding !? do you have maids and assistance to assist you ?i an only find you on HOMEWOOD or on church st at some bar or club or some randon escort listing..smh
i would like to run into you and meet like real people ..im a STR8 MAN and i have my eye open all times im in search ladies ..so if you like a good man im the one

Please let us know when your Majesty will be roaming the streets next time and we will allocate a tgirl with a mini skirt to waive for you! We apparently have nothing in our hands but to satisfy ego testicle creatures!

[rider014]

penis on woman's body is a total turn off by most straight guys.
Few will accept it, but will NOT enjoy playing with it

I totally understand that, though the concept is very shallow and physical.

I'm straight, so no matter how gorgeous the men are, if they have a pussy, i will refuse to sleep with them as well

Well, I'm confused now. How is it that the few men that view TG's as women and have no desire to "play" with "it", is considered shallow and physical?

[Tia Phoenixx]

Well, I'm confused now. How is it that the few men that view TG's as women and have no desire to "play" with "it", is considered shallow and physical?

Hi handsome,

since you, the one, who ask, i will reply:

Women (and men) are not judged by merely their sex organ. We should be seen as "the whole package" (body, personality, spirit, femininity. etc), thus focusing merely on sex organ as a determination is rather shallow, don't you think?

Ideally, men who accept us, tgirls, as being a female, have to accept our genital as well, and not repulse to play with it

However, i, somewhat, can see the point and the principal of it. As I stated above. Sex organ, for most of us, is extremely important criteria, whether or not, we are a woman (or a man)

Though female to male transsexual can be handsome and masculine and i slept with one of them (I didn't know at the beginning and he practically raped me), i didn't enjoy it.

His pussy really turned me off.







p.s: i'm in Limassol now, will be in Paris tomorrow. Life is good

[rider014]

Hi handsome,

since you, the one, who ask, i will reply:

Women (and men) are not judged by merely their sex organ. We should be seen as "the whole package" (body, personality, spirit, femininity. etc), thus focusing merely on sex organ as a determination is rather shallow, don't you think?

Ideally, men who accept us, tgirls, as being a female, have to accept our genital as well, and not repulse to play with it

However, i, somewhat, can see the point and the principal of it. As I stated above. Sex organ, for most of us, is extremely important criteria, whether or not, we are a woman (or a man)

Though female to male transsexual can be handsome and masculine and i slept with one of them (I didn't know at the beginning and he practically raped me), i didn't enjoy it.

His pussy really turned me off.







p.s: i'm in Limassol now, will be in Paris tomorrow. Life is good

Hi Tia,
Ideally, yes, it would seem somewhat shallow for "straight" men to seek out TG's as for the most part, we accept the whole package except for the "package". We don't touch it, suck it, and most definitely, don't take it. Most straight men take pride in satisfying their partner sexually, so when it comes right down to it, we're not fulfilling the other half of the equation of our satisfaction by ignoring the primary pleasure zone of a t-girl, thus leaving it up to her to essentially satisfy herself. Maybe selfish should have been the word of choice here.
Now, that being said, and I know I just shot myself in the foot with that, there are a few on here and who knows how many others worldwide who have made the decision to undergo srs and want to be viewed and treated like a woman. These are the girls that primarily attract us so called " straight" men. That was what confused me, the fact that you have made your long term desires known, then saying we're shallow for ignoring the genitals. Seems a little contradictory but then, it really does make sense when one looks at the big picture.
ps. I'm still in the same secluded corner of the world. Groundhog Day you know

[TSFantasia]

Hi handsome,

since you, the one, who ask, i will reply:

Women (and men) are not judged by merely their sex organ. We should be seen as "the whole package" (body, personality, spirit, femininity. etc), thus focusing merely on sex organ as a determination is rather shallow, don't you think?

Ideally, men who accept us, tgirls, as being a female, have to accept our genital as well, and not repulse to play with it

However, i, somewhat, can see the point and the principal of it. As I stated above. Sex organ, for most of us, is extremely important criteria, whether or not, we are a woman (or a man)

Though female to male transsexual can be handsome and masculine and i slept with one of them (I didn't know at the beginning and he practically raped me), i didn't enjoy it.

His pussy really turned me off.







p.s: i'm in Limassol now, will be in Paris tomorrow. Life is good

Yeah I do understand that too as sexual desire and arousal is based a lot on visual stimuli and trained responses (Pavlov's dogs) and guys who are aroused by a woman and expecting to see a vagina when the panties come off can find the male genitalia repulsive and a turn off for them. I don't know what the major difference is in guys who remain aroused because there is 95% woman there and those who aren't because of the remaining 5%. Sexuality partly, having strong religious or homophobic views, etc.

[dom r]

A woman who used to be pretty as a female(first picture at top left in white scarf and jacket) takes male hormones to become a man to look ugly? Why would a woman want to look ugly? It doesn't make sense. Even more weird is guys think they would be straight if that man were to lay on them and french kiss them but gay if a woman were to lay on them and french kiss them as their dicks met. Now that doesn't make sense.

Notice by her emotions as a woman compared to when she became a man, that picture of her as a woman shows she was thinking like a woman based on how she looked like, a woman, then look at her 2 pictures when she became a man, its the same person its the same brain but now a he, and his emotions in those 2 pictures shows he was thinking like a man based on how he looked like, a man. This proves we are not born to think like a female or male, rather it depends on what gender we look like will cause us to think accordingly by receiving influence from the genders in the world.

And then there are gay men who are not attracted to women but become a trans-woman, and gay women who are not attracted to men but become a trans-man and then somehow they meet and become attracted to each other resulting in a trans-woman who has sex with a trans-man when they would of never had sex with each other if they ever met prior to their transition because they were not attracted to the opposite sex back then but only became attracted to the opposite sex after they each became the opposite sex. Makes sense? ha.

[TSFantasia]

You Must Be Pharoah-Cuz Your The King of Da Nile

Another thread wasting time with definitions. Some of you have so much time to devote to "who gives a shit" discussions.

Balls, cock, pussy, ass, fucking, relationships, love, lust, lost, found....

...It goes round and round.

Get laid, get paid, fuck the maid and wave to the parade.

Definitions are a trap, kids. Get rid of 'em as fast as you can. You'll never be able to step outside of your box if you're trapped in self-definitions.

...A hot trans women can get you to suck cock where you never would otherwise.

...If you're in jail and you ain't been nailed, maybe you'll beg to be fucked in the ass where you'd be horrified to otherwise.

...Twenty years of maddening relationships with women might get you interested in being with a man.

...A midget woman wearing hot panties might get you to fuck a midget (er, little person, sorry)

See? Life is lived in the margins. Keep arguing about definitions. Your true self is out there just beyond the edge of town waiting for you.

Well obviously those of us discussing the topic don't think it's a "who gives a shit discussion" . And since your the authority on what we should discuss why don't you post some of your pics so we can bow down and crown you Pharoah- King of da Nile!