Is it exploitation?

[Mugsammy]

I am not trying to destroy any business here. I have huge difficulty visiting a TG escort. Although the right opportunity is rare to me, I always seem to shy away due to guilt. If I could I'd rather just give them the money! This report confirms and substantiates why I feel the way I do.


Transgender woman says community faces discrimination in job search


By Clare Clancy, The Canadian Press | The Canadian Press ? 2 hours 6 minutes ago
TORONTO - Melissa Hudson says 30 years of experience in the Toronto business world hasn't been enough to land her a job, despite numerous call-backs on her resume for first-round interviews.


Hudson's difficulties in finding work started after she transitioned from male to female and she blames discrimination for leaving her bankrupt, fighting to keep a roof over her head.


"After transitioning I can't get anyone to give me a second interview," she said. "I've even had interviewers make excuses of why they can't conduct the interview once I show up."


Hudson's last job in the corporate world was at a logistics firm in Mississauga, where she was a self-proclaimed "suit-and-tie" business professional. But she decided to live openly as a transgender woman two years ago.


Her challenges were exacerbated by a cycling accident that left her in the hospital for months and a hospital-acquired infection after gender-related surgery, she said.


Hudson left her job after the accident because of a "toxic work environment" but hasn't been able to find other employment.


"It would have been possible to get through it and get back to work if my gender hadn't been an issue with employers," she said.


Hudson said she isn't alone in her experience.


"I have friends who are very qualified business people who are now worried about paying their rent. It's unbelievable."


Because of the relatively small size of the transgender community and difficulty in reaching members, advocates say transgender employment data is hard to find. But a 2011 report from Trans PULSE ? a community-based research project in Ontario ? found that only 37 per cent of transgender participants were employed full-time, while 15 per cent were employed part-time. Twenty-five per cent were students, three per cent were retired and 20 per cent were unemployed.


The results were based on surveys of 433 trans people who lived, worked or received health care in Ontario.


Eighteen per cent said they had been turned down for a job because of their gender while 32 per cent said they were unsure if their gender influenced the hiring manager's decision. Thirteen per cent said they had been fired or constructively dismissed for being transgender.


"If you look at the numbers of transgender women who are unemployed, if you look at their credentials, background and business experiences, and that level of unemployment, there is systemic discrimination," Hudson said.


"I never in a million years thought this would happen in Canada," she said. "That's how clueless I was."


Trans PULSE researcher Greta Bauer, who is a professor in epidemiology and biostatistics at Western University, said the project showed the "substantial" underemployment and unemployment in the community.


"Despite being very well educated, we found that trans people have a median income of $15,000 a year," she said.


"It's surprising how often we hear from people that they were told bluntly, 'You won't fit in here.'"


The job hunt can also be complicated by university transcripts or references that are under a different gender or name.


Twenty-seven per cent of respondents said there were instances when they weren't provided references because they were transgender.


"Very often trans folks have higher levels of education than the general population and yet higher levels of unemployment, which shouldn't co-relate," said Donna Turner, spokeswoman for Rainbow Health Ontario, an advocacy and research organization focusing on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.


Turner said societal discrimination often filters into the business world.


"For a lot of people, the types of stories that we hear are that someone starts to transition in the workplace and then they get laid off for other reasons."


In 2012, Toby's Act made it illegal to discriminate against someone in the workplace because of gender identity or gender expression, amending the Ontario Human Rights Code.


But despite provincial legal protections, Turner said transgender individuals are dissuaded from filing discrimination complaints because of the cost and time it takes for cases to be heard.


Hudson said there is also another reason why transgender women don't complain about negative experiences.


"It's complete and obvious discrimination, but it's very hard to prove."


Savannah Burton, 39, had a better experience in the workplace while transitioning because of union support but is considering other job options because of her interactions with the public.


After 13 years in Toronto's hotel industry, she is now pursing an acting career because she feels she is being judged on a daily basis by her customers.


"It really wears you down. You get uncomfortable, you get self-conscious," she said.


Nicole Nussbaum, a Legal Aid Ontario lawyer who identifies as transgender, said she has seen frequent cases of employment discrimination during her career, but there has been some progress.


"Several years ago, trans people were more invisible, the lives and experiences of trans people were more invisible," she said.


Nussbaum said gender-inclusive corporate policies are becoming more common ? TD Bank Group for example has a best practices guideline for transitioning in the workplace.


It includes notes on day-to-day workplace issues such as washroom access and the appropriate use of gender pronouns, while also encouraging transitioning employees to seek out support from management.


Nussbaum added that there is a "reinforcing cycle" where employers who don't have inclusive policies are less likely to attract transgender applicants, or have an environment where transgender employees are comfortable being open about their gender.


Putting policies in place, she said, doesn't only protect transgender individuals, but enshrines the rights of others as well.


"Having an equitable workplace with respected human rights across the board encourages a more diverse workforce generally speaking," she said. "People who might be discriminated against on other grounds will feel like you are a good employer for them too."


Transgender Melissa Hudson is shown in a handout photo. Hudson says 30 years of experience ?

[Shyla Wild]

Been there, Done that

I have a Masters degree....no one hires you. When it comes down to you and someone else...the other person always wins.

[JessicaDrew]

I am not trying to destroy any business here. I have huge difficulty visiting a TG escort. Although the right opportunity is rare to me, I always seem to shy away due to guilt. If I could I'd rather just give them the money! This report confirms and substantiates why I feel the way I do.


Transgender woman says community faces discrimination in job search


By Clare Clancy, The Canadian Press | The Canadian Press ? 2 hours 6 minutes ago
TORONTO - Melissa Hudson says 30 years of experience in the Toronto business world hasn't been enough to land her a job, despite numerous call-backs on her resume for first-round interviews.


Hudson's difficulties in finding work started after she transitioned from male to female and she blames discrimination for leaving her bankrupt, fighting to keep a roof over her head.


"After transitioning I can't get anyone to give me a second interview," she said. "I've even had interviewers make excuses of why they can't conduct the interview once I show up."


Hudson's last job in the corporate world was at a logistics firm in Mississauga, where she was a self-proclaimed "suit-and-tie" business professional. But she decided to live openly as a transgender woman two years ago.


Her challenges were exacerbated by a cycling accident that left her in the hospital for months and a hospital-acquired infection after gender-related surgery, she said.


Hudson left her job after the accident because of a "toxic work environment" but hasn't been able to find other employment.


"It would have been possible to get through it and get back to work if my gender hadn't been an issue with employers," she said.


Hudson said she isn't alone in her experience.


"I have friends who are very qualified business people who are now worried about paying their rent. It's unbelievable."


Because of the relatively small size of the transgender community and difficulty in reaching members, advocates say transgender employment data is hard to find. But a 2011 report from Trans PULSE ? a community-based research project in Ontario ? found that only 37 per cent of transgender participants were employed full-time, while 15 per cent were employed part-time. Twenty-five per cent were students, three per cent were retired and 20 per cent were unemployed.


The results were based on surveys of 433 trans people who lived, worked or received health care in Ontario.


Eighteen per cent said they had been turned down for a job because of their gender while 32 per cent said they were unsure if their gender influenced the hiring manager's decision. Thirteen per cent said they had been fired or constructively dismissed for being transgender.


"If you look at the numbers of transgender women who are unemployed, if you look at their credentials, background and business experiences, and that level of unemployment, there is systemic discrimination," Hudson said.


"I never in a million years thought this would happen in Canada," she said. "That's how clueless I was."


Trans PULSE researcher Greta Bauer, who is a professor in epidemiology and biostatistics at Western University, said the project showed the "substantial" underemployment and unemployment in the community.


"Despite being very well educated, we found that trans people have a median income of $15,000 a year," she said.


"It's surprising how often we hear from people that they were told bluntly, 'You won't fit in here.'"


The job hunt can also be complicated by university transcripts or references that are under a different gender or name.


Twenty-seven per cent of respondents said there were instances when they weren't provided references because they were transgender.


"Very often trans folks have higher levels of education than the general population and yet higher levels of unemployment, which shouldn't co-relate," said Donna Turner, spokeswoman for Rainbow Health Ontario, an advocacy and research organization focusing on lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.


Turner said societal discrimination often filters into the business world.


"For a lot of people, the types of stories that we hear are that someone starts to transition in the workplace and then they get laid off for other reasons."


In 2012, Toby's Act made it illegal to discriminate against someone in the workplace because of gender identity or gender expression, amending the Ontario Human Rights Code.


But despite provincial legal protections, Turner said transgender individuals are dissuaded from filing discrimination complaints because of the cost and time it takes for cases to be heard.


Hudson said there is also another reason why transgender women don't complain about negative experiences.


"It's complete and obvious discrimination, but it's very hard to prove."


Savannah Burton, 39, had a better experience in the workplace while transitioning because of union support but is considering other job options because of her interactions with the public.


After 13 years in Toronto's hotel industry, she is now pursing an acting career because she feels she is being judged on a daily basis by her customers.


"It really wears you down. You get uncomfortable, you get self-conscious," she said.


Nicole Nussbaum, a Legal Aid Ontario lawyer who identifies as transgender, said she has seen frequent cases of employment discrimination during her career, but there has been some progress.


"Several years ago, trans people were more invisible, the lives and experiences of trans people were more invisible," she said.


Nussbaum said gender-inclusive corporate policies are becoming more common ? TD Bank Group for example has a best practices guideline for transitioning in the workplace.


It includes notes on day-to-day workplace issues such as washroom access and the appropriate use of gender pronouns, while also encouraging transitioning employees to seek out support from management.


Nussbaum added that there is a "reinforcing cycle" where employers who don't have inclusive policies are less likely to attract transgender applicants, or have an environment where transgender employees are comfortable being open about their gender.


Putting policies in place, she said, doesn't only protect transgender individuals, but enshrines the rights of others as well.


"Having an equitable workplace with respected human rights across the board encourages a more diverse workforce generally speaking," she said. "People who might be discriminated against on other grounds will feel like you are a good employer for them too."


Transgender Melissa Hudson is shown in a handout photo. Hudson says 30 years of experience ?

Melissa Hudson's story is basically mine as well. We even worked in the same industry and city. And just like her, I'm now fighting to keep a roof over my head. Is escorting exploitation? Of course it is. But that goes both ways: the clients exploit the girls for sex, and the girls exploit clients for money. Everybody gets something they want/need in the end Mugsammy. As long as clients and SP's treat eachother respectfully, then neither of us needs to feel bad about the experience.

Jess

[Mugsammy]

Exploitation is a one way street...

i want to say that should i make an appointment for a visit...i do not shy out...i do show up. I can also say it's been a looong time, not for lack of trying, right Shyla, or Lola?

For the lady, time is money.

The exploitation is a one way street. The client initiates contact, both parties know what the client is looking for. The client wants sex, most often has a better job than the escort or the escort could ever hope to have or to live the same lifestyle without prejudice. The escort wants a roof over your head, clothes on your back and food in your tummy. Basic necessities, the client waves the bills in your face, you need it, that's exploitation.

[Alexis]

lol..

i want to say that should i make an appointment for a visit...i do not shy out...i do show up. I can also say it's been a looong time, not for lack of trying, right Shyla, or Lola?

For the lady, time is money.

The exploitation is a one way street. The client initiates contact, both parties know what the client is looking for. The client wants sex, most often has a better job than the escort or the escort could ever hope to have or to live the same lifestyle without prejudice. The escort wants a roof over your head, clothes on your back and food in your tummy. Basic necessities, the client waves the bills in your face, you need it, that's exploitation.

Well then.. Anyone who thinks I need their money is sadly mistaken.. While I need cash I don't need ignorant people.. I say no to everyone that rubs me the wrong way, no to drunks, no to people that are high and no to anyone who's arrogant..

Client has a better job? How many people in Canada actually make over $100k a year?? Last I checked those of us in the industry that work minimally make more than most middle class families.. Lots of drug addicted ho's (that are exploited) make in excess of $150k/year and spend every penny..

Often times I think many trans people exploit the system and society as they whine about every little fucking thing like it's discrimination. They get handed everything on a silver fucking platter in this country and they snivel and call it unjust! Did they really expect society to welcome them with open arms for transitioning? Reality check.. Humans are Humans..

Exploitation:
1) The action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order to benefit from their work:
2) The fact of making use of a situation to gain unfair advantage for oneself

I pick number #2 sometimes but never in a way that causes harm lol.. anyone who tries #1 on me gets punched in the face..

Rarely do I deal with discrimination.. Dirty looks from passers by.. mostly overweight women & old people.. sometimes the mid 30's gays are really arrogant and I've actually punched one in the head before because of it..

Attitude is everything.. If you're friendly, hold your head high and are not a victim it is not likely that you'll be treated like one..

[rider014]

The thread example isn't exploitation, it's discrimination. Once again, a thread has veered off course and has been twisted a bit to include SPs and clients.

To add to Alexis' explanation of exploitation is quite simply "choice". I can choose to book an appointment with someone, and that someone can choose to accept or deny my request. No one is forced into anything. Where escorting can become exploitation, are the girls that are run by agencies and pimps. They have essentially lost their right to choose.
Is this applicable to Ts escorts? I really don't know if any are being exploited by others and forced into the trade. And as far as being forced into escorting by society's refusal to accept...... That's a grey area and I'm sure some have felt that way, but IMHO, I truly believe that there is something for everyone and although it may not be the dream career, it can be a start to break down the barriers of society and their prejudices.

[Rockheart]

i want to say that should i make an appointment for a visit...i do not shy out...i do show up. I can also say it's been a looong time, not for lack of trying, right Shyla, or Lola?

For the lady, time is money.

The exploitation is a one way street. The client initiates contact, both parties know what the client is looking for. The client wants sex, most often has a better job than the escort or the escort could ever hope to have or to live the same lifestyle without prejudice. The escort wants a roof over your head, clothes on your back and food in your tummy. Basic necessities, the client waves the bills in your face, you need it, that's exploitation.

The issue of holding a job could be "discrimination"
Using and escort is not exploitation by the client if he is holding something over her head and forcing them to do it.
It is only exploitation by pimp or boyfriend, not by the client.
To the client these people are willing businesses advertising for his money.
What happens behind the scenes does not reflect on the client at all, or shouldn't.

Say i force my beautiful wife to run a makeup and modelling business against her will, but do it to "exploit" her good looks.
Just because a client comes and buys from that person, doesn't mean they too are "exploiting" this person due to their looks.
The exploiter is the person directly taking advantage of the person.

I don't consider paying $200 for having sex with an escort is exploitation.
I tend to think it is the other way around, people only sell sex because people are willing to buy it.
Escorts are just lucky that people are willing to pay them to have sex, very lucky indeed!

This is differently than knowling hiring a street worker for cheap noing they are a drug addict only looking for their next hit.

As far as discrimination in the workplace, there is no law saying you HAVE to hire every person that comes in for a job, or anyone at all.
Transgenders are no where near the majority of the population.
That said, everyone has human rights, but how far can you push "your personal decision" against the majority.
You should not be able to but in todays PC society, every individual case is a big whoop dee doop!

I am special, you are special, we are special.
How can one person always seem to come out MORE special.

This person made a decision to transition and knows the problems and barriers.
She quit her own job due to toxic work environment.
What about the rights of others? You suddenly change the game on everyone and they are just supposed to act like nothing happened? This person is only speculating that they are not getting these positions for this reason.
Maybe THEY are the toxic component, not all the others.

No one ever looks at the individual person anymore, if they are TG or Gay they are right and that is that.
Everyone just get out of the way.

People struggle in careers and to get jobs. To quit one on your own then whine about it? Lots of people have shit jobs they do for a lifetime.
There is so many options, changing to a different type of job, going back to school, teaching school, consulting, etc. etc.

No one is "FORCED" to transition, this is a personal choice, and a choice that is mainly concerned with your sexual identity.
You as a TG are bringing sex into the work place in this case and you have to consider both sides of the coin.
Why is it everyone else has to change when you change? Do you think it is easy being these other people.

The fact is private businesses can hire whomever they want.
If this person was the best person for the job and would make the company more money, they would often get the job.
Dwelling on individual people and situations is fruitless.

[Mugsammy]

My opinion...

Rider...it's usually never so simple as being a straight line or simply black and white. 'Nough said on that.

Now, Choose to escort or not...

For whatever reason one has chosen to escort in the end it's about money. As Alexis said, some girls are doing very well financially I'm sure. Some are not doing so well and it's not only the crack whores who are not.

Contributing to the "not so well'ers...how about physicality's. Fat, pimply, ugly, skinny, stinky (naturally) old, new to transition, attitude...hate the job but the money's great!
...in any event it's about the money. Can't get that well paying job because your competition is a "normal" person (I apologize sincerely for using that word, I'm only trying to stress a point) then you have to resort to something else. Maybe have 3 or 4 jobs at 13 bucks an hour each and put in 60 to 80 hours a week. Your business degree...HAH!! It's a hard ole tough life indeed. And I agree, it's an individual decision.

Although the escort puts him/herself out there on their own accord it's also felt that it's out of necessity. There's no other way, and because there is a market for it. This forum also contributes to the exploitation.

Let's say I'm the client...Beautiful, sexy Alexis (whom I feel escorts not only for the money, I feel she is one of the few who loves her work. I can just FEEL It!) Alexis, you need a boob job!? Well I can help you get the cash for that, 250 bucks at a time! All you gotta do Alexis is da da da dee da...so wad da ya say Alexis? Oh yes Sir! "SHOW ME THE MONEY!"

Anyways, the proof is in the puddin' which is what prompted this thread.

That's how I feel and I'm stick in' to it!

BTW Alexis...I'm having some kinda dae jhaw vou from this...don't anyone pick me up on my spelling! I'm doing as best I can!

[Alexis]

Rider...it's usually never so simple as being a straight line or simply black and white. 'Nough said on that.

Now, Choose to escort or not...

For whatever reason one has chosen to escort in the end it's about money. As Alexis said, some girls are doing very well financially I'm sure. Some are not doing so well and it's not only the crack whores who are not.

Contributing to the "not so well'ers...how about physicality's. Fat, pimply, ugly, skinny, stinky (naturally) old, new to transition, attitude...hate the job but the money's great!
...in any event it's about the money. Can't get that well paying job because your competition is a "normal" person (I apologize sincerely for using that word, I'm only trying to stress a point) then you have to resort to something else. Maybe have 3 or 4 jobs at 13 bucks an hour each and put in 60 to 80 hours a week. Your business degree...HAH!! It's a hard ole tough life indeed. And I agree, it's an individual decision.

Although the escort puts him/herself out there on their own accord it's also felt that it's out of necessity. There's no other way, and because there is a market for it. This forum also contributes to the exploitation.

Let's say I'm the client...Beautiful, sexy Alexis (whom I feel escorts not only for the money, I feel she is one of the few who loves her work. I can just FEEL It!) Alexis, you need a boob job!? Well I can help you get the cash for that, 250 bucks at a time! All you gotta do Alexis is da da da dee da...so wad da ya say Alexis? Oh yes Sir! "SHOW ME THE MONEY!"

Anyways, the proof is in the puddin' which is what prompted this thread.

That's how I feel and I'm stick in' to it!

BTW Alexis...I'm having some kinda dae jhaw vou from this...don't anyone pick me up on my spelling! I'm doing as best I can!

You presumptions and analogy in retrospect to me are rather off base..

How many years of your life did you give up as a whore to your keepers? Sure you didn't have to suck cock.. but you gave them years of your life for what I consider pennies.. You were exploited for decades to line the coffers of the 0.1% and what do you have to show for it?

You see.. I've always been a self made individual.. I don't work for others.. they work for me..

Clients don't make the decision on if they get to see me.. I make that decision.. I choose my customers..

I always have even as a contractor, graphic designer & web developer.. I have something you need.. not the other way around..

Since transitioning I've been getting sooo many requests for GD and web design that I've contemplated doing some more but it''s just not worth the headache, the money isn't as good and it's no where near as much fun.. I might go back to school in a few years to get my BA in Psychology..

So with your $250 you better have a good attitude on the phone.. if not.. you'll be trying to find someone else to help you with what you need..

and if you think I'm calling you sir.. well you're very mistaken..

after you pay the tithe you can get on your knees and worship me.. provided I approve..

PS: I think lots of Johns are exploited by girls that hustle.. you pay $300 and get hustled out the door in 15 minutes.. or you show up and it's a guy in a dress..

[Mugsammy]

very good...

You presumptions and analogy in retrospect to me are rather off base..

How many years of your life did you give up as a whore to your keepers? Sure you didn't have to suck cock.. but you gave them years of your life for what I consider pennies.. You were exploited for decades to line the coffers of the 0.1% and what do you have to show for it?

You see.. I've always been a self made individual.. I don't work for others.. they work for me..

Clients don't make the decision on if they get to see me.. I make that decision.. I choose my customers..

I always have even as a contractor, graphic designer & web developer.. I have something you need.. not the other way around..

Since transitioning I've been getting sooo many requests for GD and web design that I've contemplated doing some more but it''s just not worth the headache, the money isn't as good and it's no where near as much fun.. I might go back to school in a few years to get my BA in Psychology..

So with your $250 you better have a good attitude on the phone.. if not.. you'll be trying to find someone else to help you with what you need..

and if you think I'm calling you sir.. well you're very mistaken..

after you pay the tithe you can get on your knees and worship me.. provided I approve..

PS: I think lots of Johns are exploited by girls that hustle.. you pay $300 and get hustled out the door in 15 minutes.. or you show up and it's a guy in a dress..

But the picture as a whole is much bigger than you, or me, or you and me or you me and rider and crag. I'm trying to visualize the entire spectrum not as an individual.

You are very fortunate! You've earned what you have through your own motivation, intelligence and maybe with the help of good some contacts and a good break or two.

So tell me then please, what percentage are you as a success story and of the opposite of what I am? I am in the process of purchasing my 3rd house btw...brand new and beautiful, two of them I use as rentals both very nice homes, a government pension, a private pension...CPP and old age...(when I get there, NOT there for awhile) but to an obvious lesser degree in comparison to you (maybe not as my government and private pensions are for life, I make money without even getting out of bed!) God i love my country! I'm doing fine.

Your comment that you have something that client want is exactly my point. As an escort they only want your cock. Good attitude, bad attitude whatever...cash for your cock! You are a fetish to be exploited for one part of your body which is only (whew!) 8" long! What about the rest of you?

Clients pushed out after 15 minutes is not exploitation, it's simply a rip off and a fine example of how some girls enjoy their job...

As for the on your knees stuff...as I said, it sounds very exciting! I'm confident in my belief that you love that aspect of your life, one of the few so again, you are one of the lucky ones.

[Rockheart]

Rider...it's usually never so simple as being a straight line or simply black and white. 'Nough said on that.

Now, Choose to escort or not...

For whatever reason one has chosen to escort in the end it's about money. As Alexis said, some girls are doing very well financially I'm sure. Some are not doing so well and it's not only the crack whores who are not.

Contributing to the "not so well'ers...how about physicality's. Fat, pimply, ugly, skinny, stinky (naturally) old, new to transition, attitude...hate the job but the money's great!
...in any event it's about the money. Can't get that well paying job because your competition is a "normal" person (I apologize sincerely for using that word, I'm only trying to stress a point) then you have to resort to something else. Maybe have 3 or 4 jobs at 13 bucks an hour each and put in 60 to 80 hours a week. Your business degree...HAH!! It's a hard ole tough life indeed. And I agree, it's an individual decision.

Although the escort puts him/herself out there on their own accord it's also felt that it's out of necessity. There's no other way, and because there is a market for it. This forum also contributes to the exploitation.

Let's say I'm the client...Beautiful, sexy Alexis (whom I feel escorts not only for the money, I feel she is one of the few who loves her work. I can just FEEL It!) Alexis, you need a boob job!? Well I can help you get the cash for that, 250 bucks at a time! All you gotta do Alexis is da da da dee da...so wad da ya say Alexis? Oh yes Sir! "SHOW ME THE MONEY!"

Anyways, the proof is in the puddin' which is what prompted this thread.

That's how I feel and I'm stick in' to it!

BTW Alexis...I'm having some kinda dae jhaw vou from this...don't anyone pick me up on my spelling! I'm doing as best I can!

Escorts are offering their services free of exploitation.
If YOU personally think you are exploiting them, then don't do it.

It is my understanding that every escort on Shemale Canada is there voluntarily.
You can say they are dong because they are desperate for money to survive.
The fact of life is EVERYONE is desperate for money to survive.
Perhaps you were born with it, perhaps not. The common thing among all people is we need money and we need a place to live.
It is not only the escort who is forced to work, most people are forced to work to survive.

So then you have a choice, will i work at a normal minimum wage job, will i go to school to improve my status or I will take the easy way out and escort. Nobody HAS to escort which flies in the face of your theory.

Just because you choose to have sex with strange men for money, doesn't mean you can't get a job elsewhere.
It means you chose not to work elsewhere is for you own reasons not exploitation.
USUALLY it is because they realize they can make good money and have sex, compared to working at 7-11 and making shit money and having sex with no one. The choice is pretty damn easy. Where is the exploitation? There isn't any at all.

You seem to have some weird notion that TS cannot get jobs and are forced to escort.
This is 100% wrong assumption, period.
TS can get jobs, TS can go to school, TS can be a parent, they can make many choices.

The main reason TS choose escorting is:

• Better money.
• Sex
• Flexible work hours
• Can work from home.

The fact is most TS escorts are in their 20's have no job experience or education.
So they can go work for minimum wage to get experience or they can escort.
What do you think a 20 year old is going to choose?
The one they can make the most money, have the most fun and have the fewest rules.

You need to stop thinking that TS cannot thrive in our society, because they can.
Mostly it is their own attitude that is the problem not others.
If you transition you have to recognize certain parts of your life will be harder, you cannot blame others for this.
You may not be able to do the same things as you could before, again your decision.
YOUR PERSONAL DECISION.
You cannot keep going out and blaming everyone for YOUR PERSONAL DECISION.

Yes some see transgenderism as a handicap.
However it is not a handicap that stops you from living.
Many people have other handicaps that they have to live with their whole lives.
Often they decide not to have treatment because their life will end up being harder as a result.
They live with their handicap.

Some people never even have the luxury of having sex or a relation ship in their entire life, no matter their sex.
I am not clear how people can say their sexuality is huge handicap.
Unless you where born with no sex or genitals, this is a pretty broad statement.

If you have place to live, food to eat and you are not abused, this is the basics of life.
Having sex or changing yourself for sex may make you happier but it is not always necessary or a right.
I think alot of people don't think of the consequences of their decision and blame society.

In the end it is YOUR decision to transition, I cannot understand how you can hold it against everyone else.

Like i say all the escorts are volunteers, if you personally feel you are exploiting them then don't go.
If you pay some kid $10 an hour to mow your lawn and he feels he should get more and is forced to do this, then you are exploiting him. The fact is people take jobs to live and make decision to take it.
If the escort feels exploited by you she as every option to say no.
To say you are exploiting her because she needs to eat? Everyone needs to eat, she just chose how to make the money.
Not your problem.

[Alexis]

Clients pushed out after 15 minutes is not exploitation, it's simply a rip off and a fine example of how some girls enjoy their job...

I disagree..

Exploitation:
1) The action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order to benefit from their work:
2) The fact of making use of a situation to gain unfair advantage for oneself

The providers that hustle guys exploit them.. Just like drug dealers exploit addicts.. see definition #2..

As far as exploitation goes.. I'm not too sure how you think I could be exploited.. I choose.. not you..

Also I'm not well off by any means.. the mother of my oldest daughter got the first house.. I walked away from the second house and the 1200sqft shop I built myself.. She owned the house but I renovated it, landscaped and built my dream shop for $100k.. More than tripled the value of the place in 8 years while raising her son from a different marriage..

I lack the greed required to be financially wealthy.. but I will die as on of the richest people on the planet..

[rider014]

Deja Vu

Why is it that Gypsy keeps going through my mind here

[Mugsammy]

Why is it that Gypsy keeps going through my mind here

so, first I was babe...nowI'm Gypsy lol

Why can't I just be meeee!

[Mugsammy]

I disagree..

Exploitation:
1) The action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order to benefit from their work:
2) The fact of making use of a situation to gain unfair advantage for oneself

The providers that hustle guys exploit them.. Just like drug dealers exploit addicts.. see definition #2..

As far as exploitation goes.. I'm not too sure how you think I could be exploited.. I choose.. not you..

Also I'm not well off by any means.. the mother of my oldest daughter got the first house.. I walked away from the second house and the 1200sqft shop I built myself.. She owned the house but I renovated it, landscaped and built my dream shop for $100k.. More than tripled the value of the place in 8 years while raising her son from a different marriage..

I lack the greed required to be financially wealthy.. but I will die as on of the richest people on the planet..

Reverse your definitions, use them from the client end of it. Your definitions aptly describe the client. They use money for persons that want/need that money for self purposes.

I didn't say you personally were being exploited, you don't need to escort to earn good money. Your successful business provides you with that. You escort because you enjoy it, and pocket change. What I'm saying is others do it out of necessity.

I'm a nice, polite and respectful man...if I call you for a visit that means I choose, not you. You may accept me or refuse me but "I choose you!" You would like me as I'm sure I would like you. You seem to be a hard working sensible person.

Divorce...been there...which is why I will work 5 years longer than I initially planned...SUCKS! I'm not rich, far from it. What keeps me going is to have enough money to not worry about in retirement...money to travel, drink beer wine and whisky! You and I have a much better chance then the regular TG. Life's tribulations eh!?