Straight?

[Mugsammy]

I have had meetings with 3 transgender escorts for 1 hour sessions in the past 15 months and I did threat them with respect and they did the same in return. I never meant to offend anyone with my question.If I did I apologize .Other escorts have responded to my thread and don't seem to have a problem with it.I think this forum is a great place for all of us to communicate and hopefully learn proper ways to approach and respect each others feelings.

Good for you. If you are a gentleman stay a gentleman. If you want to be involved in this forum...the best way is to do so with an open mind.

I can tell you that I have learned so much in here and not only about TG escorts. If you browse thru the titles you will find discussions on just about everything. You will also see who the respectful members are and who the jerks are. As you get involved in threads members will misinterpret or disagree with what you say. You will be attacked for it. I will admit that I had been attacked and had fun with that and had my membership suspended several times. )) It's all good.

As for the ladies, they have a product to sell, it is not wise for them to come in here on a thread, where lots of clients can observe, and trash members, potential clients. Could hamper with the success of the business. They don't mind providing some education and honest, thoughtful, opinions. After all, they walk the walk.

Life is but a game and so is sex for sale. Enjoy!

[Mugsammy]

i like what you've said, about respect. You seem to have a lot of insight to the issues working trans women face. I think dealing with trans-attraction is a little touchy, for a lot of people. There is definitely, a societal stigma attached to it, but whatever you gentleman have gone through, us ladies have had it ten times fold. the only difference is, you gentleman can walk away .

I've made a few TG friends thanks to the forum. One in particular a very close friend, we've graduated to best friends.

Even at my age (60) I was pretty green to the escort scene. I've never been to an escort or paid for sex in my life. It was quite traumatic to me. So much so that I'll never see or use an escort again. It's not for me. If my friend is on the down low I will give her money to help her out. She doesn't have to pay me back. One less trick I tell her. She cries but it makes me feel good that I can help her a little bit without using her. She's my friend!

And you you hit it on the head...when we think we have it rough, you ladies have had it tenfold.

[bb420]

Fucking or getting fucked by a TG escort is considered a "hobby." (Most disgusting) Would sex with a male escort or a woman be considered a hobby? Let me answer my own question....NOPE! I suggest that if the members want a hobby someone should come out with collectable cards, like hockey or baseball cards! ANY OF YOU GIRLS HAVE SOME ENTREPRENEUR SKILLS??

Umm, on female escort forums, I've seen many men commonly referred to as "hobbyists".
Calling it a "hobby" is not a term thats exclusive to guys that see TG escorts.
Don't know whats so disgusting about that.

[alex99]

I'm surprised that some people can't understand that if someone acts like a woman, looks like a woman, sounds like a woman, is dressed in sexy lingerie, and has a hot ass, that there is a huuuuuuge temptation. Like WTF?!

[Mugsammy]

Umm, on female escort forums, I've seen many men commonly referred to as "hobbyists".
Calling it a "hobby" is not a term thats exclusive to guys that see TG escorts.
Don't know whats so disgusting about that.

Then they should produce hobby cards also with complete stats including season stats and career stats.

There's lots of shit going on that some might find disgusting while others think it's just fine. That's part of what makes us different. We're all entitled to our own opinions. For me...I can't see myself paying for sex with any gender, and claiming it as a hobby. Simple.

[bb420]

Then they should produce hobby cards also with complete stats including season stats and career stats.

There's lots of shit going on that some might find disgusting while others think it's just fine. That's part of what makes us different. We're all entitled to our own opinions. For me...I can't see myself paying for sex with any gender, and claiming it as a hobby. Simple.

To be fair, a hobby can be anything though.
Bird watching, video gaming, stamp collecting, watching porn, gambling, drinking, paying for sex etc..
I agree it's stupid to use the word hobby to describe it, but I don't understand the outrage over it.
Never knew that "hobby" was such an offensive word.

[Mugsammy]

To be fair, a hobby can be anything though.
Bird watching, video gaming, stamp collecting, watching porn, gambling, drinking, paying for sex etc..
I agree it's stupid to use the word hobby to describe it, but I don't understand the outrage over it.
Never knew that "hobby" was such an offensive word.

Who's outraged? Nobody I'd seen. Hobby is not in itself an offensive word, depends on the context.

Most of the hobbies you list lead to terrible addictions btw.

[Tim49]

Last night I had an interesting chat with a sex therapist. In her opinion we are all born Pansexual and that our parents and teachers mold us to be straight. She said they teach us to assume certain roles from a young age. She used the example girls are taught to play with dolls and wear dresses while boys play with trucks and wear jeans and shirts. Then as we grow older we are taught to date the other sex and are not told of any other options.She also said that we have fear of judgement from society that determines the way we act towards each other and hide our attractions to the same sex in order to be straight.She also said no parent would ever mention being with a transgender because many would never think of the now available third option.

[Mugsammy]

Last night I had an interesting chat with a sex therapist. In her opinion we are all born Pansexual and that our parents and teachers mold us to be straight. She said they teach us to assume certain roles from a young age. She used the example girls are taught to play with dolls and wear dresses while boys play with trucks and wear jeans and shirts. Then as we grow older we are taught to date the other sex and are not told of any other options.She also said that we have fear of judgement from society that determines the way we act towards each other and hide our attractions to the same sex in order to be straight.She also said no parent would ever mention being with a transgender because many would never think of the now available third option.

That might be true but, key words "in her opinion."

Humans start developing personalities as infants, long before we want to play with Barbie dolls or Tonka trucks, dresses or long pants. Parents have a responsibility to provide children the necessities of life and development and education. But in the end, we are who we are. Even thru the mis-guidance of parents trying to change who we are...in the end we are who we are. Parents can't dictate our intelligence the same as they can't dictate our sexuality. When they try...they just mess things up. Rather than guide the children and let them develope naturally parents try to change them. We are who we are from the very beginning.

At one time people actually believed that transgender needed a doctor to tell them what sexuality they were, why they feel like they do, that they have a mental disorder...not the child telling the doctor how they feel.

The situation have changed in some countries so that now the doctor helps to deal and cope with the situation. Nobody can change who or what sexuality a person is or dictate it by wrapping a baby girl in a pink blanket and a boy in blue. Toddlers know what other toddlers they want to hug and kiss long before dating and sexuality if even known.

Therefore, we aren't all Einsteins or Wayne Gretzky's so I don't believe we are born pansexual!

Society places a fear in children over sexuality especially in the LGB community. I didn't include transgender because transgender are in a league of their own. The fear, violence and discrimination, suicide is usually around tenfold for transgender. In the USA, year 2013, 72% of LGBT murder victims were transgender, usually of color. In Canada 87% of transgender students are afraid and don't feel safe at school. In Ontario only 37% of transgender have full time jobs. The global suicide rate is 16 per 100,000...transgender is 800 per 100,000.

Transgender can't get jobs...so they sell sex. Some of these dudes in here if it weren't for the sex trade they'd get no lovin'! They NEED these girls! Some SP's actually enjoy their work...good money. You can live poorly in a shithole or you can live in a beautiful apartment or condo. Maybe even buy a car, your own home.

It comes down to education as individuals and as a societies. Because of my special friend...I've decided to educate myself although not formally. We don't need a degree to be smart. But we should be smart enough to have an open mind and a conscience.

[Philly88]

Well, I'm not gay. I love women of all types, sizes, ages... And the past couple years I've enjoyed a few t-girls. I am only attracted to t-girls who are very feminine and sexy. Yes I play with their cocks too, but that's because it happens to be attached to them. I have zero attraction to men. Not only zero, but can't even imagine kissing a dude or cuddling with him. It honestly grosses me out. But being with a sexy t-girl is one of the most sexually exciting things I've done. So if you must label it, go ahead and stick a label on it. But that label can't be gay, as I don't like dudes. Period.

In fact most gay men don't find t-girls attractive. Cause they like guys, not female features. It's simply not a function of what's between the legs, and more so the attraction to the person as a whole. If most guys were hit on by any one of the top rated gals on this site, the guy would cream his jeans trying to get down their pants before they new they were transgender. And I bet that the majority of those who didn't know, would still have sex with the transgender gal once they found out about their special surprise.

[alex99]

Well, I'm not gay.

You just haven't met the right guy.

[Tim49]

Well, I'm not gay. I love women of all types, sizes, ages... And the past couple years I've enjoyed a few t-girls. I am only attracted to t-girls who are very feminine and sexy. Yes I play with their cocks too, but that's because it happens to be attached to them. I have zero attraction to men. Not only zero, but can't even imagine kissing a dude or cuddling with him. It honestly grosses me out. But being with a sexy t-girl is one of the most sexually exciting things I've done. So if you must label it, go ahead and stick a label on it. But that label can't be gay, as I don't like dudes. Period.

In fact most gay men don't find t-girls attractive. Cause they like guys, not female features. It's simply not a function of what's between the legs, and more so the attraction to the person as a whole. If most guys were hit on by any one of the top rated gals on this site, the guy would cream his jeans trying to get down their pants before they new they were transgender. And I bet that the majority of those who didn't know, would still have sex with the transgender gal once they found out about their special surprise.

Being with a transgender is truly pleasurable and exciting ,it seems most of us agree on that point.

[Mugsammy]

Well, I'm not gay. I love women of all types, sizes, ages... And the past couple years I've enjoyed a few t-girls. I am only attracted to t-girls who are very feminine and sexy. Yes I play with their cocks too, but that's because it happens to be attached to them. I have zero attraction to men. Not only zero, but can't even imagine kissing a dude or cuddling with him. It honestly grosses me out. But being with a sexy t-girl is one of the most sexually exciting things I've done. So if you must label it, go ahead and stick a label on it. But that label can't be gay, as I don't like dudes. Period.

In fact most gay men don't find t-girls attractive. Cause they like guys, not female features. It's simply not a function of what's between the legs, and more so the attraction to the person as a whole. If most guys were hit on by any one of the top rated gals on this site, the guy would cream his jeans trying to get down their pants before they new they were transgender. And I bet that the majority of those who didn't know, would still have sex with the transgender gal once they found out about their special surprise.

Well, you not straight either! �� What's wrong with tgirls that aren't fem and sexy!!?? They need love to, and money! Spread the love around man!

I'm more interested to know where you got the info to back up your comments that most gay men don't find TG attractive (which if they did doesn't imply sexual interest) but more specifically that most guys would still have sex with a TG once they realize the "surprise"...especially since in the USA Lawyers use this "surprise" reaction as part of the defence that may get a murderer of a TG off or at least the charges of 1st or 2nd degree murder reduced to manslaughter because of the surprise of the "surprise" package.

Id be interested, that's all.

[Philly88]

Well, you not straight either! �� What's wrong with tgirls that aren't fem and sexy!!?? They need love to, and money! Spread the love around man!

I'm more interested to know where you got the info to back up your comments that most gay men don't find TG attractive (which if they did doesn't imply sexual interest) but more specifically that most guys would still have sex with a TG once they realize the "surprise"...especially since in the USA Lawyers use this "surprise" reaction as part of the defence that may get a murderer of a TG off or at least the charges of 1st or 2nd degree murder reduced to manslaughter because of the surprise of the "surprise" package.

Id be interested, that's all.

Ya... well... honestly I was just chiming in with my personal opinion. Your response is a bit on the heavy side for me TBH. Not really into getting into a debate. Was just making a point along the topic of the thread that I don't find guys attractive, but I enjoy the company of a sexy transgender girl. Not sure what you would categorize me as, but I don't relate to gay, as I would never be with a guy. Not my thing. Call it what you want, it is what it is and I'm good with that.

[Mugsammy]

Ya... well... honestly I was just chiming in with my personal opinion. Your response is a bit on the heavy side for me TBH. Not really into getting into a debate. Was just making a point along the topic of the thread that I don't find guys attractive, but I enjoy the company of a sexy transgender girl. Not sure what you would categorize me as, but I don't relate to gay, as I would never be with a guy. Not my thing. Call it what you want, it is what it is and I'm good with that.

sex with a Man or pre-op male to female TG, cock is cock. All I'm saying is, if a man enjoys real flesh and blood cock as part of a his sexual lifestyle, then that man is not straight. This is not simple sexual experimentation here

I'm also saying that I believe in labels. I'm saying if you (not meaning you personally) enjoy sex with pre-op TG's then do so...who cares about labels. Worry about yourself not what others think, and I know that's easier said then done! I'm quite sure I wouldn't be able to do it.

That should tell of of the personal strength of these women.

Im not categorizing or labelling you as anything. Frankly, it's none of my business. I've never said you or anyone else were gay.

I might be heavy with my prior comments...but they are facts from research and not my personal opinions. I know of no subject that is simple black and white. Any subject can lead to some very serious discussions. Admittedly, I can be too serious at times. But this is a subject that until 21/2 years ago I knew absolutely nothing about. So, this forum can be a useful tool to help me expand my horizons. Plus it helps me practice my writing. The big thing is...there is a huge human side. That's what makes me care.

In spite of my comments above...I do consider "real" pre-op TG's (men to women) as women. There's no trick here, let's just say it's a double edge sword. They are women, women with cock, cock is cock.

Women to men...I have no fucking idea! I guess if they get penal and testes implants then they must be men.