Poll: Gay or straight? Here's a scenario.....

[vancouverman]

No. I think its the other way around. I think certain people on here are confused and frustrated about their own identity and sexuality (and have been their whole lives) and it makes them feel better if they can get others to be confused as well ....

Hhah, that made me laugh

[toban]

Why are some here so insistent upon labelling others?

Many of men (and Tgirls) have used viagra/cialis to get aroused to have sex with somebody they are not attracted to. If this fictional guy is only attracted to one gender, females, He cant be 'bi'. Sex acts performed does not define a persons sexuality, this is a point you don't seem to understand.

According to you way of thinking, if a straight a man is abducted and raped by a another man, he would be gay. which of course he inst.

The membership of this forum consists of thousands who are followers of transexual girls/escorts along with a much smaller number of the girls/escorts themselves. Since we are all here for the same essential reason i.e. the very existence of transgender girls, I find it strange that so many, and even some of the girls/escorts themselves seem to be insistent that various labels be attached to the guys, labels that are sometimes repugnant to them.

A frequent claim here is that since a male client will generally have access to a TS escort's genitalia or participate in anal intercourse with her he must therefore be gay or at a very minimum must have inherent bisexual tendencies. There grounds for opposition to this position because many (majority?) men claim to have no interest whatsoever in interacting with other males and should therefore be considered 100% straight. Many such males may insist that they do relish the female aspects of the TS escorts and even enjoy interaction with the girl?s remaining male organs yet insist they are completely straight.

It is held by many here along with Greep, that their sexual preference can not be determined simply by their participation in some interaction with a transgender female. It is known that males of all species are genetically programmed by Mother Nature to ?Spread the Seed?. We often see the participation of males in actions not related to their acknowledged sexual preference e.g. Glory Hole sex, masturbation etc. and they do not usually need any chemical stimulants to partake! Such male opportunism can be seen in this video clip of a male of the Bovine species who feels it is time for him to do his thing in support of Mother Nature! Some here might even be tempted to label this poor confused bull as a bisexual simply because of his interaction with a motorbike!

Again, it is not the commission of any specific act that determines sexual preference but in the case of this bull it was his innate sense of duty! Perhaps he saw the handlebars as being the horns of a delicious young heifer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBszMXvileY

What I find amusing too is some of the claims that are made by the girls/escorts themselves. Since their clients are, in a sense, the girl?s bread and butter, would it not be more appropriate for them to refer to their male customers as something more like ?My valued client? for example, rather than denigrate them by calling them gay or bisexual!

To go one step further, since the girls/escorts like to refer to themselves as females who have been born into the wrong body and since, in most cases, they still possess full male genetics and genitalia, using the argument above that since their clients may suck their shemale cock the client must be gay or bisexual. If they themselves, with their full male genitalia, have sucked the clients cock or engaged in anal intercourse with him too, so then, by the same argument, they must as well be designated as gay or at the very least as having inherent bisexual tendencies. If a male is gay for sucking her then why is she not gay for sucking him? As the old saying goes, ?What is sauce for the Goose is sauce for he Gander?!

Let?s switch things and genders around a bit to illustrate how the argument above does not hold water:

A 100% straight genetic girl is an escort and needing cash, she agrees to entertain a lesbian customer and both become fully involved with each other. Having now had sex with that female same-sex partner or client, can we truly believe that the straight escort must now be labelled as lesbian or even bisexual just because she did have sex with a lesbian client. Of course not!

Similarly, having had sex with the straight girl escort, could the lesbian client now be labelled straight? Of course not!

A person?s sexual preference can not be determined by any sexual experience on it?s own!

[TSFantasia]

According to you because contact was made between genitals, both the rapist and the rapee are gay. So now you are saying there are exceptions?

Dude not only are you NOT straight you are also brain dead too! To equate what people do willing and seek out because of their personal sexual preferences and desires with what is forced upon someone as an act of violence is insane , Dude STFU take some pills for your massive denial and spread the bottle around to the rest of the crew!

[TSFantasia]

The membership of this forum consists of thousands who are followers of transexual girls/escorts along with a much smaller number of the girls/escorts themselves. Since we are all here for the same essential reason i.e. the very existence of transgender girls, I find it strange that so many, and even some of the girls/escorts themselves seem to be insistent that various labels be attached to the guys, labels that are sometimes repugnant to them.

A frequent claim here is that since a male client will generally have access to a TS escort's genitalia or participate in anal intercourse with her he must therefore be gay or at a very minimum must have inherent bisexual tendencies. There grounds for opposition to this position because many (majority?) men claim to have no interest whatsoever in interacting with other males and should therefore be considered 100% straight. Many such males may insist that they do relish the female aspects of the TS escorts and even enjoy interaction with the girl?s remaining male organs yet insist they are completely straight.

It is held by many here along with Greep, that their sexual preference can not be determined simply by their participation in some interaction with a transgender female. It is known that males of all species are genetically programmed by Mother Nature to ?Spread the Seed?. We often see the participation of males in actions not related to their acknowledged sexual preference e.g. Glory Hole sex, masturbation etc. and they do not usually need any chemical stimulants to partake! Such male opportunism can be seen in this video clip of a male of the Bovine species who feels it is time for him to do his thing in support of Mother Nature! Some here might even be tempted to label this poor confused bull as a bisexual simply because of his interaction with a motorbike!

Again, it is not the commission of any specific act that determines sexual preference but in the case of this bull it was his innate sense of duty! Perhaps he saw the handlebars as being the horns of a delicious young heifer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBszMXvileY

What I find amusing too is some of the claims that are made by the girls/escorts themselves. Since their clients are, in a sense, the girl?s bread and butter, would it not be more appropriate for them to refer to their male customers as something more like ?My valued client? for example, rather than denigrate them by calling them gay or bisexual!

To go one step further, since the girls/escorts like to refer to themselves as females who have been born into the wrong body and since, in most cases, they still possess full male genetics and genitalia, using the argument above that since their clients may suck their shemale cock the client must be gay or bisexual. If they themselves, with their full male genitalia, have sucked the clients cock or engaged in anal intercourse with him too, so then, by the same argument, they must as well be designated as gay or at the very least as having inherent bisexual tendencies. If a male is gay for sucking her then why is she not gay for sucking him? As the old saying goes, ?What is sauce for the Goose is sauce for he Gander?!

Let?s switch things and genders around a bit to illustrate how the argument above does not hold water:

A 100% straight genetic girl is an escort and needing cash, she agrees to entertain a lesbian customer and both become fully involved with each other. Having now had sex with that female same-sex partner or client, can we truly believe that the straight escort must now be labelled as lesbian or even bisexual just because she did have sex with a lesbian client. Of course not!

Similarly, having had sex with the straight girl escort, could the lesbian client now be labelled straight? Of course not!

A person?s sexual preference can not be determined by any sexual experience on it?s own!

Again you along with Greep and other's just don't get it! Telling someone their actions, preferences, sexual activities fits into a certain "label" or "definition" such as straight, bisexual, or gay is not an insult it is just a statement of fact. If so offensive than why do you guys continue to ask the question whether you are straight or gay in seeing t-girls and then fight any answer that does not say STRAIGHT?? May be because of the generation you came from it is so ingrained in you that any deviation from straight-hetero is a mortal blow to your manhood and masculinity. You want to twist and cram your activities under the STRAIGHT banner/label at all costs and then complain about labelling when it's clear you are all about labelling as long as the label reads STRAIGHT.
My gay and bisexual male friends would find it very interesting to know that they are all less than men or masculine because of their chosen sexual preferences. Or if I told them to quit insulting themselves by referring to themselves as gay or bisexual.

[vancouverman]

If guys need to tell themselves they are 100% straight when they have a cock in their mouth; let them have that peace.

These types seem to keep thinking it is either 100% straight OR gay. This is not the case. Loving TS girls is not gay in itself, but it sure as hell isn.t 100% straight. But, this argument will just spin around and around so let's all not get sucked into the vortex anymore.

People have to look themselves in the mirror. As such, we all tell ourselves things that make us feel good about ourselves and whatever we are doing in life. It doesn't have to be the truth , it just has to be believed.

[idleflow]

He's probably just hungry.

[greep]

Dude not only are you NOT straight you are also brain dead too! To equate what people do willing and seek out because of their personal sexual preferences and desires with what is forced upon someone as an act of violence is insane , Dude STFU take some pills for your massive denial and spread the bottle around to the rest of the crew!

Hmmm, lets see...

I am a man and I'm only sexually attracted to the opposite gender: women (whether gg or trans), Yet you say I'm in denial about my sexuality. You're literally retarded.

Also, its nice to see Toban agree with me on something...

[vancouverman]

Hmmm, lets see...

I am a man and I'm only sexually attracted to the opposite gender: women (whether gg or trans), Yet you say I'm in denial about my sexuality. Your literally retarded.

Also, its nice to see Toban agree with me on something...

coming on the internet to try to get people to tell you that you are straight, and agree with you that you are 100% straight, doesn't serve your case very well other than looking for insecure. This is a silly argument. We all know TS Lovers are not 100% straight, nor are we gay, there is some where in the middle as we like both pussies and cocks. But, really, if you need to tell yourself you are 100% straight no questions asked, in order to feel good about your life choices then that is great and I hope you find peace. We all have to feel good about what we see in the mirror and if you despise the fact that you are closer to bisexual, then you believe what makes you happy. But arguing this point here just seems absurd.

Move on, seriously.

[greep]

coming on the internet to try to get people to tell you that you are straight, and agree with you that you are 100% straight, doesn't serve your case very well other than looking for insecure. This is a silly argument. We all know TS Lovers are not 100% straight, nor are we gay, there is some where in the middle as we like both pussies and cocks. But, really, if you need to tell yourself you are 100% straight no questions asked, in order to feel good about your life choices then that is great and I hope you find peace. We all have to feel good about what we see in the mirror and if you despise the fact that you are closer to bisexual, then you believe what makes you happy. But arguing this point here just seems absurd.

Move on, seriously.

Yeah, you keep saying the same thing over and over as well. I notice how you don't address my point, you know, the little thing about how i am I guy and only like women, so how can I be gay..

[Alexis]

Uhhh.. ya.. right..

Yeah, you keep saying the same thing over and over as well. I notice how you don't address my point, you know, the little thing about how i am I guy and only like women, so how can I be gay..

You're 100% straight? Then why the fuck are you here posting sooo much in a tranny forum dude??

I think you're a cocksucker.. either you are or you aren't..

have you had a cock in your mouth?? Will there be another cock in your mouth??

Did you like it?

If you only like women then how can you like transsexuals with male parts?

If you consider them women is it because of their looks or their personalities?

If she's kinda manly looking but had the bottom done and doesn't act very fem is she a guy or a girl to you?

[kokinme]

Not Addressed tp Me But I'd Like to Answer

You're 100% straight? Then why the fuck are you here posting sooo much in a tranny forum dude??

I think you're a cocksucker.. either you are or you aren't..

have you had a cock in your mouth?? Yes I have. Will there be another cock in your mouth?? I hope so.

Did you like it? Yes I did, each time.

If you only like women then how can you like transsexuals with male parts? I like both and possibly equally.

If you consider them women is it because of their looks or their personalities? Because of their looks. My exposure does not allow me to really know their personalities but I can tell that the personalities are all different.

If she's kinda manly looking but had the bottom done and doesn't act very fem is she a guy or a girl to you?

She is probably a guy to me. I am attracted to the feminine look and hope that the mannerisms are also feminine. And I do want her cock in me and I figure that makes me a cocksucker.

[vancouverman]

Yeah, you keep saying the same thing over and over as well. I notice how you don't address my point, you know, the little thing about how i am I guy and only like women, so how can I be gay..

how much more clear can i be

I AM NOT SAYING YOU ARE GAY, WHY DO YOU KEEP HANGING ONTO THAT... But you are not 100% straight either if you like sucking dick. There is a middle ground, why do you have to be "gay or straight" and so absolute. ... man you really need to work this out.

Like i said, if you want to tell your self you are 100% straight, awesome. Do what makes you feel good. But why on earth you need people here to re affirm that for you is beyond me. Most of us will not agree with the 100% straight label, so this discussion is just a vortex.

I love pussy and genetic women more than TS girls; but guess what, I can't say I am 100% straight when I am having sex with them and watching TS porn sometimes. I can live with that, why can't you.

[flamingofarmer]

Maybe were all a bit gay

Well sometimes I think I am gay, sometimes bi but for sure not straight. The problem isn't on my side, its on the straight side.... Because being whatever is mostly a choice to act on your desires , whatever they may be. So perhaps were neither gay or straight or even bi... we are lovers of beauty and sexual adventure... I think labels such as those discussed are important mostly to those who need a measure of who they are . In other words, what is "my" reflection on society and does it fit my realities description of me Its all BS really because I think everyone is a little gay at times but some people are afraid of it and other don't care what ppl think. (really its what your peers think right) anyhow, I think if you like physical and emotional connections, don't be limited to 1 thing... try it all and have some fun.

Never judge a book by it's cover
Or who you gonna love by your lover
Sayin' love put me wise to her love in disguise
She had the body of a Venus, Lord imagine my surprise

[Tim49]

You're 100% straight? Then why the fuck are you here posting sooo much in a tranny forum dude??

I think you're a cocksucker.. either you are or you aren't..

have you had a cock in your mouth?? Will there be another cock in your mouth??

Did you like it?

If you only like women then how can you like transsexuals with male parts?

If you consider them women is it because of their looks or their personalities?

If she's kinda manly looking but had the bottom done and doesn't act very fem is she a guy or a girl to you?

Alexis: I think the following question should be added to your list

Do you enjoy sucking hecock or shecock?

My answer is I enjoy sucking shecock but have no desire to suck a mans cock

[TSFantasia]

Yeah, you keep saying the same thing over and over as well. I notice how you don't address my point, you know, the little thing about how i am I guy and only like women, so how can I be gay..

Giving you the benefit of the doubt then and taking your side on this for a moment... then how many normal dating relationships with trans women have you had? You know the going out for coffee, dinner, movies, hanging out with friends and family with your trans girlfriend kind of dating?