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**TSFantasia** · 10-16-2014, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Crag Rockheart View Post

After reading this most transgenders that live in Canada should be glad.
I know may feel there is still discrimination and bad attitudes but really it is fantastic here compared to Malaysia and other parts of the world.
Rights only go as far as you infringing on another, however in Malaysia transgenders have 0 rights.
Remember how good you have it Canadians!

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/09/24/m...e-under-threat

They have produce a 75 page report on transgender abuses in Malaysia.
http://features.hrw.org/features/HRW...man/index.html
Transgenders in Malaysia are harassed, arrested and abused for their lifestyle.

"Gay" sex is illegal with sentences up to 20 years. Transgenders can face 3 or more years in jail just for dressing
Muslim values have cause transgenders to be outcast in society.
They are harassed and abused by regular police and religious police.

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1182924

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-p...147558263.html

http://news.asiaone.com/news/malaysi...s-abuse-prison

I don't think the guage for the quality of our rights and freedoms is a comparison to extremist muslim states or third world dictatorships and regimes. It's a comparison with the rights and freedoms of other citizens within a free democratic country such as Canada, USA, or Western Europe. Not saying there are no human rights violations but we are miles ahead of these other countries. So yes I am thankful to be in a country like Canada as a transgender person, but doesn't mean that there is no need for improvement in the general attitude of the public toward transgenders. This comes though public education and awareness and visibility of the transgender community and yes protest when our rights are not respected or protected so we don't end up going in reverse to a state of intolerance like exists in Malaysia and so many other countries.

**Rockheart** · 10-16-2014, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by TSFantasia View Post

I don't think the guage for the quality of our rights and freedoms is a comparison to extremist muslim states or third world dictatorships and regimes. It's a comparison with the rights and freedoms of other citizens within a free democratic country such as Canada, USA, or Western Europe. Not saying there are no human rights violations but we are miles ahead of these other countries. So yes I am thankful to be in a country like Canada as a transgender person, but doesn't mean that there is no need for improvement in the general attitude of the public toward transgenders. This comes though public education and awareness and visibility of the transgender community and yes protest when our rights are not respected or protected so we don't end up going in reverse to a state of intolerance like exists in Malaysia and so many other countries.

Well then you are obviously a half glass empty person because you have every right and freedom of every other Canadian. It shouldn't be what others think or what you can't do, it should be what YOU think and what you CAN do.
But no, it is always about those few things you can't do or the few people that don't like you.

People will always not like other people and they way they choose to live.
Nothing is saying they have to accept you, then only have too allow you to live as you choose.
There will always be people that don't like you for many reasons and that will never change.

There will be some things you cannot do because of the choices you have made in life.
Everyone has this problem in some way or another.
I cannot do many things or am not liked by many because of some of the choices I have made.
So I do ALL the other things I can do and don't care about the haters that don't like me.
They can hate me all they want, it is not illegal and I will never change their minds.
Yes you can tell me I don't qualify because I just don't know the trouble you have seen..
You have not fucking even begun to imagine the trouble I have seen, but i try to live life and make the best of it.
Everyone has big problems in life, not just TGs.

The fact is 80% of the people are good and accepting.
Dwelling on the 20% that don't like you or seem intolerant is a waste of your life.
YOu aren't changing their attitudes ever, and their will never be a law that can stop it.
The best you can do is put a good face out there for your community.
Not be down on all of society because of a few bad or different or even uneducated people.
All I see in the media is an angry unhappy community, even though they live in the best damn country in the world.

If you go to these other countries you will find they still live happily with a smile on their faces and enjoy life.
Their rights are stomped on but they still find the happiness in life when they can.
It also not really a comparison between third world regimes and democratic nations.
Go to Thailand right next door and Ladyboys are an accepted third sex.
Still many people don't like them but it doesn't matter, they avoid the haters.

Ladyboys in Thailand you will find go where they are accepted and just ignore those who don't.
If a business doesn't want them to work for them, the go apply at the next place (There is alot of TG business owners there as well.) Or they become an escort which adds discrimination on top of what exists already.

They also live life with a smile and try to just ignore that 20% that don't like them for whatever reason.
Part of this attitude is growing up poorer, the little things seem better and they don't dwell on the few things they can't have.

When people can have most things and do most things like in Canada they tend to dwell on the FEW things they cannot do or the FEW people that don't like them.
Most Canadians take their rights and freedoms for granted, including me at times.

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