Social engineering and the normalization of transgender

[alex99]

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[xoxJanexox]

Thank you Mr. Kafka for this wonderful kafkaesque thread. I note that social engineering could be different from engineering society by switching the words, that is not to say that engineering society could not be switched back to social engineering by switching the words again, which would lead to normalization of phrase in a way that makes the phrase appears normal. Having said that, normalization should not be the aim, but the aim should focus in making things appear normal.

[alex99]

So, in general, have the transgendered community gradually blend in with the rest of society in as many means possible, which will happen in time.

Thank you Mr. Kafka for this wonderful kafkaesque thread. I note that social engineering could be different from engineering society by switching the words, that is not to say that engineering society could not be switched back to social engineering by switching the words again, which would lead to normalization of phrase in a way that makes the phrase appears normal. Having said that, normalization should not be the aim, but the aim should focus in making things appear normal.

Precisely, thank you.

[sadeh]

Dr. Love you, Sadeh Honey.

I have a suitable dignoses for your condition, it's called and referred to as self oppression.

You have obviously understood that you enjoy the penis and enjoy having to give oral sex to a transgender person and receive oral sex from a transgender person. You may have also enjoyed sexual intercourse with a transgender person who has the same genitals as your self, a PENIS.

Transgender culture is not normal, and our lovers are not normal, and with this Alex I can definitely tell you, it may be exceptable within your own being and in some cultures it is and will always be the unspeakable taboo.

normal is a woman and a man in a relationship, that have the choice to have children and create a family, this is normal culture.


The lady across the street from me is a transsexual, the psychologist that lived across the street from me in Toronto is a transsexual,
The man at the Apple Store in my city is a transsexual, the man at the best buy I purchased an air conditioner from last year is a transsexual, transgender and transsexuals are all over the world anonymous in appearance...

I prescribe to you, a vacation and time for yourself, recognize and write down all the reasons you enjoy the company of trans women, I'm sure you will find the right one,
once you have accepted the reality that you yourself have the ability to change your gender.
we all are transgender, it's more than just physical or psychological, it is within your spirit.
You need to know and find if your spirit is male or female spirit.

All the best Alex. ����

Sadeh honey .

First of all, I just want to say that I apologize if this is offensive to some, but I also want to say thanks to those who actually take the time to read some or all of this post, since I know it probably looks like (and might just be) a lot of babble. Believe it or not, this comes from the heart.

Maybe I'm totally off my rocker here, but I was responding to a post from the following thread ( http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showth...d=1#post473936 ) and started thinking that perhaps what I mentioned warrants its own topic, at least for future consideration by readers. I think that a lot of what I'm saying can relate to the lgbtq community at large, and imo captures part of a phenomenon, and perhaps a project, that is currently in progress to some extent, which I also encourage people to participate in somehow (imo many here are doing so already), and I just wanted to share my thoughts because I think it's an important topic, or at the very least food for thought.



That is so true. I tried dating a trans woman almost two years ago, but it was a lot more difficult than I'd ever imagined. I know this might sound ridiculous, but internet pornography completely normalized trans women for me from a sexual standpoint, where it first seemed very taboo and strange to me many years ago. The problem of course is that pornography is entertainment and caters to people's fantasies that are almost completely detached from reality, to the extent that it feels as if there's a large part of myself that's still in the process of catching up with this development.

Even for those of us who are well-meaning, sometimes it's so easy to accidentally offend, because transgendered people in general are almost seen nowhere in the mainstream, except in the occasional documentary or news segment as an oddity or as a topic that is barely or ambiguously addressed in the rare movie (often in the form of a character that is portrayed as a misfit or social outcast), to the extent that there isn't really much of a public dialogue, apart from the more general framework of human rights, tolerance, acceptance, etc. This might seem like a strange thing to say, but I feel like the people who have mature and insightful things to say when it comes to transgendered people are either far more experienced in this area on a personal level than most people or they're well-read on the issue (sometimes even from an academic standpoint, or echoing the academia from specialists in this area of research, particularly in psychiatry, sociology, and psychology), such that they stand out as an anomaly, with respect to the general public.

Personally, I feel like the answer ultimately is some gradual form of social engineering - i.e. to have transgendered figures with their own television shows on public television (or at least regularly be involved somehow as guests, on panels, as reporters, news anchors on the nightly news, etc.), and stuff of that sort. It would be good to see more videos on social media too (that aren't of a sexual nature, but rather to normalize the presence of trans people in general, which I think could make a huge impact down the road as far as combating discrimination and ignorance - I think this is partly happening on the net, which is good considering its international scope, but not as much elsewhere, as far as I know - we have the rights movement, but I'm thinking more along the lines of general views and sentiments).

A lot of what I'm saying can of course extend to members who are openly a part of the lgbtq community - ts/tg/tv's often being at the forefront because they can't blend in, much like a man who is very feminine, and as a result, sometimes a victim of discrimination, which imo is often an extension of sexism (in some males, perhaps the manifestation of their hatred of femininity), in addition to socially reinforced gender roles. Obviously this can apply in some way for butch women as well, who can't help but stand out.

Personally, I find it alarming that people in the lgbt community would be imprisoned or executed in certain other countries, and I think that a good way of responding would be a trans woman as president of the U.S.A. - I vote for Big Dick Bitch! XD

As over the top as that may sound, the reality is that something like this could happen in a Western country one day, and it would be a good thing. Idk, perhaps I'm just a dreamer, dreaming of every homophobe's nightmare. (while this may seem like a joke, the reality is that many Western countries give financial aid to countries that turn a blind eye to or even promote discrimination against the lgbtq community, and I think there is a legitimate question as to whether this sort of behavior should be tolerated at all - there are many who believe that aid should be cut and perhaps even sanctions applied - it would be interesting to hear people's views)

Clearly I'm not talking about something that can happen overnight, but in a broader scope of 30 to 60+ years, where there are generations of people of increasingly larger demographics with a radically different mindset. This should imo even be an issue at the forefront with newcomers to Western countries as well - that regardless of their religion or culture, anti-lgbtq sentiments are not okay. We have this to some extent already via anti-discrimination laws, although they always seem in the background, not to mention in some cases representing interests that are diametrically opposed (i.e. people using the platform of human rights in an attempt to legitimize certain extreme views that are inhumane, such as Sharia, which could also become a reality one day if the population demographics radically change in the distant or not-so-distant future).

This is in addition to the fact that, getting back to the original thread, I don't even believe marriage is worth pursuing period, whether it's with a genetic or trans woman, and I think people who get married in this day and age often do it for the wrong reasons.

But that's a whole other can of worms.

[sadeh]

Feelings. Emotional solution, love is suitable for all,
a remedy for all.

[mbrown]

In my opinion trans people, specially mtf had a bad time du to their look. Most of them looked masculine and couldnt be take seriously. Its sad but thats the way it is. But now with the advance surgical techniques and the fact that lot of them start transition at a young age, that make it more acceptable for society. I know its not the look that define trans women but hope you’ll get my point.

[Guest]

In my opinion trans people, specially mtf had a bad time du to their look. Most of them looked masculine and couldnt be take seriously. Its sad but thats the way it is. But now with the advance surgical techniques and the fact that lot of them start transition at a young age, that make it more acceptable for society. I know its not the look that define trans women but hope you’ll get my point.

Maybe. Maybe not. My girlfriend - no hormones and no surgery. A girl as long as she can remember in spite of the big thing between her legs.

[FalconHeavy]

Maybe. Maybe not. My girlfriend - no hormones and no surgery. A girl as long as she can remember in spite of the big thing between her legs.

Posted for the 15th time?

[Guest]

Posted for the 15th time?

If you have any pics of a pretty girl, by all means post them. I will enjoy it just as much the 15th time as the first!

[cocacola1984]

Is the lady that you keep posting pictures of aware that she is in a relationship with you? /s

[Guest]

Is the lady that you keep posting pictures of aware that she is in a relationship with you? /s

That’s a strange question. Like we are in a relationship but she is not aware of it? Or we are not in a relationship at all? Her take on it is we are committed to one another as husband and wife. I love her but I need to be sure.

[Guest]

Is the lady that you keep posting pictures of aware that she is in a relationship with you? /s

I told her about your question today and she said, “That was kind of a mean question.” I said the guys on these forums are usually haters of one kind or another. Which may or not include you - I don’t know you so you deserve the benefit of a doubt.

[justvisiting2016]

I told her about your question today and she said, “That was kind of a mean question.” I said the guys on these forums are usually haters of one kind or another. Which may or not include you - I don’t know you so you deserve the benefit of a doubt.

Nobody hates her mate, but you do need to take some light hearted ribbing because you do post her photo and talk about her cock a lot on here It is wonderful you are so proud of her and so happy.

The guy who posted that here is not a hater from what I read; just poking harmless fun.

[Guest]

Nobody hates her mate, but you do need to take some light hearted ribbing because you do post her photo and talk about her cock a lot on here It is wonderful you are so proud of her and so happy.

The guy who posted that here is not a hater from what I read; just poking harmless fun.

I am sure I deserve it. I am crazy about her and I think she’s beautiful. Maybe covid19 will kill what we have along with everything else. I will take your advice and stop talking about her (even though she is my favorite topic lol).

[justvisiting2016]

I am sure I deserve it. I am crazy about her and I think she’s beautiful. Maybe covid19 will kill what we have along with everything else. I will take your advice and stop talking about her (even though she is my favorite topic lol).

I never advised you to stop talking about her. Can you show me where I said that?

I am happy you are so proud and I would think most people are. Just was trying to defuse your feelings by saying that you should expect some light hearted ribbing and its not "hate".