CONFIRMED: Bruce Jenner is now a tgirl

[xoxJanexox]

Why do you have so much anger over your sexuality? If you suck cock ,you are not straight. Believe me , embracing the concept of accepting you are bisexual or something like that is a hell of a lot better than running around churning with anger over the thought that someone thinks you are gay. Why carry that burden, you are only hurting yourself. Accepting my sexuality that I love women with vaginas and cocks (which makes me bisexual in my eyes), is a really nice place to be. RUnning around getting mad telling everyone you are straight or fuming that someone might think you are gay is only hurting yourself.

I know a gay guy, who is loud and proud about it, and dating a trans guy with a vagina. So is going down DATY on the his boyfriend going to make him straight! Is fucking his boyfriend in his pussy going to make him straight!

Sexuality is a very complex issue.

[Zeus101159]

And since I'm a woman no I don't hate women.

Sorry.
You aren't.
And never will be.
You were born male and perhaps should have been a female... but you weren't.

No amount of injections or pills or lopping off of bits will change that.
Harsh truth but a truth nonetheless

[Shyla Wild]

Do you people realize what you are doing? Fantasia has undergone full SRS. Whatever you may think of her views, the lack of respect for her transition is rather disturbing. Our government....the people you vote to make laws, have deemed that she is a woman. Her ID says female. Whatever you deem to be your way of judging her, is not only wrong, but it is nothing short of pure hate towards her and others that are undergoing the hardships of transitioning.

Comments like these are exactly why we have to fight for basic rights...like using a public bathroom, because people like you will always refuse to acknowledge the gender of a trans woman. Moreover, when you disagree with the transition of a person, you resort to petty insults calling a transwoman a man, a fag, not a woman....what the hell is wrong with you people?

Bruce Jenner decides to transition....power to him. Fantasia undergoes SRS...power to her for her courage. Calling either one derogatory names does nothing but spread hateful views.

[TSFantasia]

Too funny I was going to put in brackets after my "I am a woman" statement (wait for it.....place transphobic comments here.....)

Anyways regardless of what some keep saying I have never said men, who see t-girls are gay as I know gay men are not interested in t-girls as they need the masculinity along with the dick. I don't see them as straight either as I see sexuality as a multi-colour spectrum or rainbow not a clearly defined line between black and white, gay or straight. I also have no judgement against individuals for whatever their sexuality is I don't see one being any better than the other. My personal preference as a pre-op t-girl was for guys who were mostly tops was just part of what turned me on and what didn't. I do have a hard time believing that guys with an obsession for sucking cock & being topped are restricting these activities ONLY to their t-girl encounters but for some that maybe true. Same could be said for guys, who enjoy sucking t-girl cock and topping them, that they may just as easily be able to do the same on a guy, who is more of an effeminate twink.

I have found that even in chatting with guys online when I knew I would be post-op soon that I was still looking for guys who were bi-curious to bisexual as I think that level of open-mindedness and sexual interest is necessary for a man to be ok with a pre or post op trans woman, who was obviously born male sexed. Guys who declare they are straight only in general react the same way that even if you are still only male on a chromosomal level that is gross and a turn off to them. Maybe that reaction will change as people become more educated and aware of transgender people but then again intolerance and bigotry always exists in some peoples minds.

[Zeus101159]

Hateful?
Hmm ... lemme think about that.

So, you peeps can call me (bisexual guy) a "tranny chaser" with extreme disdain.
The guy who has paid you, which has enabled you to accomplish your goal of full SRS (if that is the desire).

But my calling you what you were born is hateful? Fuck you! Seriously!

I cringe at the way people are treated in society but I cringe more at the bullshit political correctness. I don't live in your shoes and can only imagine the mountain you have to climb. You have my empathy.

But I won't kiss your ass!


unless you pay me

[TSFantasia]

Sorry.
You aren't.
And never will be.
You were born male and perhaps should have been a female... but you weren't.

No amount of injections or pills or lopping off of bits will change that.
Harsh truth but a truth nonetheless

Hateful?
Hmm ... lemme think about that.

So, you peeps can call me (bisexual guy) a "tranny chaser" with extreme disdain.
The guy who has paid you, which has enabled you to accomplish your goal of full SRS (if that is the desire).

But my calling you what you were born is hateful? Fuck you! Seriously!

I cringe at the way people are treated in society but I cringe more at the bullshit political correctness. I don't live in your shoes and can only imagine the mountain you have to climb. You have my empathy.

But I won't kiss your ass!


unless you pay me

Girls call guys who are only looking for sex hookups with no other interest in them other than getting into their pussies "players"
T-girls looking for real dates/relationships call guys who only seek them out for sexual hook-ups and only because they have a cock "tranny chasers". T-girl escorts call them clients. If the term doesn't apply to your interactions with t-girls (maybe you are in a relationship with a t-girl) then you can disregard it. You may also not like that men who frequent prostitutes/escorts are called johns either.

What you said was no where near innocent as you now claim. You weren't pointing out the fact that I was born male sexed as I and every other trans woman knows you were attacking who I am now. You are attacking the gender identity of trans women and demeaning the process that we go through to become more fully female in our appearance. You could say "oh well I may be a tranny chaser but you are just a hooker!" Which though I may prefer the term escort or sex worker is also a slang term for what they do.

[alex99]

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[greep]

Do you people realize what you are doing? Fantasia has undergone full SRS. Whatever you may think of her views, the lack of respect for her transition is rather disturbing. Our government....the people you vote to make laws, have deemed that she is a woman. Her ID says female. Whatever you deem to be your way of judging her, is not only wrong, but it is nothing short of pure hate towards her and others that are undergoing the hardships of transitioning.

Comments like these are exactly why we have to fight for basic rights...like using a public bathroom, because people like you will always refuse to acknowledge the gender of a trans woman. Moreover, when you disagree with the transition of a person, you resort to petty insults calling a transwoman a man, a fag, not a woman....what the hell is wrong with you people?

Bruce Jenner decides to transition....power to him. Fantasia undergoes SRS...power to her for her courage. Calling either one derogatory names does nothing but spread hateful views.

....and if I consider myself a straight male, than power to me as well right? Do you have the courage to call Fantasia out for her constant belittling of us 'tranny chasers' and her 'less than straight' references that she so often uses to describe men that like transwomen. Do you shyla? or will you just ignore THOSE comments.

Fantasia is the one doing all the judging, I suggest you go back and read her history of posts. She has no fucking right to label and tell me or anyone else what their sexual self identification is PERIOD. End of debate. Im sick of her trying to tell me i'm gay, fuck her...Im sick of the double standard around here.

I'm disappointed and shocked that you people in the trans world are so closed minded and prejudiced, yet you expect everybody to bow down and commiserate with you as you go through your 'journeys'. It works both ways....If you want people to be open minded and accepting of you, than you better be the same of others (which Im not seeing from some of the TS on this board)


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[Shyla Wild]

....and if I consider myself a straight male, than power to me as well right? Do you have the courage to call Fantasia out for her constant belittling of us 'tranny chasers' and her 'less than straight' references that she so often uses to describe men that like transwomen. Do you shyla? or will you just ignore THOSE comments.

Fantasia is the one doing all the judging, I suggest you go back and read her history of posts. She has no fucking right to label and tell me or anyone else what their sexual self identification is PERIOD. End of debate. Im sick of her trying to tell me i'm gay, fuck her...Im sick of the double standard around here.

I'm disappointed and shocked that you people in the trans world are so closed minded and prejudiced, yet you expect everybody to bow down and commiserate with you as you go through your 'journeys'. It works both ways....If you want people to be open minded and accepting of you, than you better be the same of others (which Im not seeing from some of the TS on this board)


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1- I have called Fantasia out on this in the past....ask her or do a search. She knows my stance. It is not that I ignored her comments, it is just that I don't feel like getting into a fight over it again.

2- I have defended guys on this board just like I defended her. I have explained my stance against calling guys fags and chasers....

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?235537

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?224601

[greep]

1- I have called Fantasia out on this in the past....ask her or do a search. She knows my stance. It is not that I ignored her comments, it is just that I don't feel like getting into a fight over it again.

2- I have defended guys on this board just like I defended her. I have explained my stance against calling guys fags and chasers....

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?235537

http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showthread.php?224601

So you agree with me than, awesome. Nice to know. Yes I remember that first thread very well, nothing more intriguing than reading through old threads you were a part of...

[Shyla Wild]

So you agree with me than, awesome. Yes I remember that first thread very well, nothing more intriguing than reading through old threads you were a part of...

No i don't agree with you calling her a man, but i Respect your right to define yourself as a cock sucking straight guy...whatever floats your boat. Unlike you people, i dont judge and its rather funny at you experts throwing around facts and insults like fans arguing who is the greatest boxer...and the answer to both is the same....who cares as long as the person is happy.

Do i approve of Fantasia's views? Most of the time I do not. She excerises her right to freedom of speech, and I excerise my right not to listen. Which is the respectiful thing to do. When something doesnt interest you...move along. We have bumped heads in the past and I dont feel the need to argue the same points.

I also remember that old thread well and I am shocked you did since you questioned my stance in just your last post. What I find intriguing, is the same two people got into the same senseless argument over the samething and hijacked a thread....

[Rockheart]

The thing that is so puzzling to me about the whole thing is, a person wears womens clothing changes their hair style and maybe chops something off they are still the same person they were before. People think they are making a huge change but the are really more or less the same. Saying you are female for wearing womens clothing is just made society. Dresses, makeup, and anything else you think makes a woman does not, it is just stuff humans made up to support certain rituals. If you like to wear dresses and makeup it is just clothes and colouring. I often wonder what things would be like if we didn't wear clothes or makeup.

Which i would think be yourself and don't care what others thing because you really haven't' changed much at all.

[greep]

No .... Unlike you people, i dont judge ....

?--- I'm the guy saying 'don't judge each other, I'm the guy saying 'stop labeling each other' I'm the guy saying stop referring to each other by derogatory handles...

Have you been paying attention to anything I've been saying?

[greep]

The thing that is so puzzling to me about the whole thing is, a person wears womens clothing changes their hair style and maybe chops something off they are still the same person they were before. People think they are making a huge change but the are really more or less the same. Saying you are female for wearing womens clothing is just made society. Dresses, makeup, and anything else you think makes a woman does not, it is just stuff humans made up to support certain rituals. If you like to wear dresses and makeup it is just clothes and colouring. I often wonder what things would be like if we didn't wear clothes or makeup.

Which i would think be yourself and don't care what others thing because you really haven't' changed much at all.

Human sexuality is one of the most complex topics there is, and I'm sure as hell no expert (although I play one in these forums).

Society needs to include a fourth defined sexual orientation for men (and women) who are attracted to trans individuals.

1-Straight
2-gay
3-bisexual
4-str8t - straight spelled with the number 8, either signifying 2 nuts, or 2 boobs

Today I'm coming out of the closet as a str8t male, yay for me! Free at last free at last!

[candyhilton]

can't we all just get along?