TS Shelby (Shemale Canada)

[Andrew69]

what a crock of shit,we can see whoever we want whenever we want if we dont wanna see a black guy asian guy indian guy or any other race its our choice ,you do not tell me or any other girl who we choose to sleep with its our bodies our job and our right as an individual.so we can turn down any race period,if a girl isnt attracted to a race or a person just how much fun can ya have,its not all about sucking a dick or taking it up your ass its about 60 or so minutes of fantacy and extacy 2 people create together end of story....ps.shelby and i were in toronto shopping all day and she was chatting it up with a black dude for along time so shes far from a racist.

First off I didn't make the initial post. No one has called Shelby racist and Shelby has for the most part been a sane & rational voice on this board.

I agree with you that we all have the right to choose who we sleep with. However when you charge for it, it becomes a business and in Canada it is illegal to deny someone a business service based on race. It is highly unlikely that anyone would make a formal complaint to the human rights tribunal but it is always possible.

The difficulty is we are mixing a highly personal act with a business & businesses are required to conform to certain laws.


Of course if someone did challenge this, it would make for an interesting case. We would start to examine if someone could be refused service as a client based on their gender i.e. could a straight male escort refuse service to a prospective male client? Would a gay male escort be able to turn down a female client?

[lp]

Lisa, read my friggin' posts. I am supporting Shelby and her right to advertise her preferences and to see who she wants. Don't quote me and tell me it is a "crock of shit" when what I posted was in total agreement with you. Give your head a shake. I am on Shelby's side here.

PS I never called her racist!

lol i was giving my head a shake thats what distracted me from quoting the right person lol sorry dude,i just have to learn to pay more attention and not watch porn while im typing.

[Telvin]

lol i was giving my head a shake thats what distracted me from quoting the right person lol sorry dude,i just have to learn to pay more attention and not watch porn while im typing.

Cool, and I assume it was the little, well not so little, head you we giving a shake. I always thought that not so little head would fit perfectly in my mouth.

Nothing wrong with watching porn while posting.

[lp]

Cool, and I assume it was the little, well not so little, head you we giving a shake. I always thought that not so little head would fit perfectly in my mouth.

Nothing wrong with watching porn while posting.

roflmfao,yep i was practicing with this really cool jenna jaimison replica of her ass and pussy i baught at the stag shop so i was pounding it with a really awesome vibrator in the anus omg topping is alot of work lol i was sweating buletts till i finnally shot a load for like 5 mins long lol i know im a horny little fucker, oh well

[kissingbandit]

Does anyone have Shelby's email address?

Would really like to get in contact with her.

[Foxy Basket]

There's no question of what the law says, but it goes a lot deeper than that, and the line is anything but clear.

If a gentleman calls an escort agency, and requests a petite asian, but receives a voluptuous hispanic, is he entitled to send her back? Of course he is; he stated his preference, was not pleased with the product offered, and decided not to make a purchase.

If a restaurant owner refuses to seat a group of blacks, is he discriminating? Yes, because the race of his clients should not determine whether he can serve them food.

If a casting director puts out a call for actors to star in a biopic about Martin Luther King, and Tom Hanks shows up to audition for the lead role, is the director discriminating by refusing to give him an audition? Of course not, because the race of the actor will play a role in the success and accuracy of the movie.

Shelby's situation is much more like the first and third situation than it is like the second one, which is the driving purpose of the law. Her preference is what it is, but the success of her business is determined by repeat customers and positive reviews. If she's not going to enjoy the engagement, and her service suffers, she'll miss out on the repeat customers, and perhaps future business because of the negative reviews that may very well follow.

People love to assume that escorts have a moral obligation to see anyone and everyone that wants to pay them, but people have a right to refuse to enter into a contract if they don't think they can fulfill the terms. Shelby has the right to do so, and even if people think (perhaps rightly) that she's ignorant for doing so, she still deserves to make her own personal choices - especially with what she does with her own body.

Just my two cents - for the record, I'm attracted to people, not races, genders or body parts; but I respect her right to make her own decisions.

[Pat]

Choices

With all due respect folks it is all about choices and personal choices at that.

Telvin's comment is realistic but Andrew is also correct. However at the end of the day we who do own businesses and we who are consumers do have a choice.

Call me a racist but I REFUSE to interact with women who wear a Hijab.

I got into it with a woman in Future Shop when she accused me of discrimination when I indicated I did not wish to have her serve me.

I replied that I was the customer and that it had nothing to do with discrimination but rather my personal choice who I as a consumer chose to do business with and that was the end of that, we are so politically correct in this country we end up being discriminated against in our own country.

If you want to live in Canada as an immigrant, please add all the good things from your society to the social fabric of ours not try and replicate or impose your society here otherwise why the hell did you come to my country (born and raised here) in the first place, you should have stayed in your own.

So at the end of the day It is still Shelby's choice and if all she wants are white guys, then good and god bless her fot for herchoice.

Amen.

Pat

[acer650]

With all due respect folks it is all about choices and personal choices at that.

Telvin's comment is realistic but Andrew is also correct. However at the end of the day we who do own businesses and we who are consumers do have a choice.

Call me a racist but I REFUSE to interact with women who wear a Hijab.

I got into it with a woman in Future Shop when she accused me of discrimination when I indicated I did not wish to have her serve me.

I replied that I was the customer and that it had nothing to do with discrimination but rather my personal choice who I as a consumer chose to do business with and that was the end of that, we are so politically correct in this country we end up being discriminated against in our own country.

If you want to live in Canada as an immigrant, please add all the good things from your society to the social fabric of ours not try and replicate or impose your society here otherwise why the hell did you come to my country (born and raised here) in the first place, you should have stayed in your own.

So at the end of the day It is still Shelby's choice and if all she wants are white guys, then good and god bless her fot for herchoice.

Amen.

Pat

Are you Native Indian? How do you know she wasn't born and raised here? Because she wore a Hijab? What you did was from the heart of a pure racist, I am disgusted. There is no possible excuse or reasoning you can give to excuse your actions. I am sure if Shelby met a nice black person in person she would have no problem servicing a "black man". Her reasoning is based of stereotypes and who she would like to see her because perhaps she is afraid? What were your actions based on? Did you think the Hijab wearing girl was going to ask you for service then blow you up? This country is built on the hard work of immigrants, if you hadn't noticed there are white immigrants.

[uncle_monty]

What you did was from the heart of a pure racist, I am disgusted. There is no possible excuse or reasoning you can give to excuse your actions.

Properly speaking, it was not a racist act. There is no such thing as an Islamic race.

[acer650]

Your point is well taken. My point was formed from his own thoughts that it was a racist act. He knows what he is doing, I'm sure it wasn't the first time he has acted in discrimination against someone due to race or religion or religious garb.

[toban]

Let's take a look at the issue from the other side.

There's no question of what the law says, but it goes a lot deeper than that, and the line is anything but clear ..................... Just my two cents ..................

Try this scenario on for size:

What if customers had no choice of SP but must accept whatever provider who would be chosen somehow, by some source? Then there would be something to really complain about - right? Would the current complainers care to see themsel_ves told they could not choose who to see? No answer is needed!

Every one here, including the thread starter certainly has made his own decision as to who he prefers to see, whether they be tall, short, asian, black, white etc. and rules out those he does not care to associate with. Is this not discrimination? Does he/we not discriminate against some providers then? Darned right he does! And so do we all.

Yet some here seem to think that it is all right to deny the provider of service any choice of who she sees. That is just not right!

[BlueJack]

Stick around the SP hobby for a while and you'll see the term YMMV

"Your Mileage May Vary" very good thing to know about.... not every one gets same service

oh and yeah usually an escort covers her ass by saying that the money is for time spent only, anything that occurs is between two consenting adults...


And honestly there are laws in place where you can discriminate.. if its a necessary requirement for the business or fundamental to it... And since fucking someone is attuned to being attracted to someone I think shes quite in her legal rights to say if shes doing an outcall sexual service (which is legal in canada) she is quite within her right to say I am not attracted to men of colour as being aroused is a necessary requirement for the sexual acts... (yeah yeah I know lots of sp do shit when theyre not attracted to a guy but they want the money... whole other boat, im just saying what arguement could be used if some dumbass made a HRC complaint and it went to courts.. not that anyone is that much of a loser but you know...)


Does anyone honestly think a tribunal or judge in canada would rule someone has to have sex with someone else? Maybe in some random mormon polygamist sect but hopefully never in the courts of canada.

[jjbingo]

Are you Native Indian? How do you know she wasn't born and raised here? Because she wore a Hijab? What you did was from the heart of a pure racist, I am disgusted. There is no possible excuse or reasoning you can give to excuse your actions. I am sure if Shelby met a nice black person in person she would have no problem servicing a "black man". Her reasoning is based of stereotypes and who she would like to see her because perhaps she is afraid? What were your actions based on? Did you think the Hijab wearing girl was going to ask you for service then blow you up? This country is built on the hard work of immigrants, if you hadn't noticed there are white immigrants.

Amen to that.

Pat - your way of thinking in this regard is a typical mindset of a true racist. Personally, I hate Hijab and I know that I can never understand the people who believe in that crap, but it does not, in anyway, justifies it for me to discriminate against them in social interactions. For that matter, I have encountered many people who are even more narrow minded that those with Hijab and you probably fit in that category in my books.

[Pat]

To the Ineloquent Rookie Forum Posters

While you may characterize me as a racist ( not that I give a rat's ass)

you obviously missed the point entirely.

My point was simply, when it comes to spending my disposable income, I as the consumer, do have the unequivocal right to spend it where and with whom, I choose.

If I choose not to spend it with some one who has a face and hands covered with open sores, are you going to tell me I must do so?

I think not. Or then again maybe you poor bleeding hearts think that I should, because it is the right thing to do, because other wise I would be discriminating against the person who happens to be afflicted with some dreadful disease. It is called freedom of choice.

And in reply to the comment that Shelby would fuck some nice black guy just because he was nice or had a big dick is some what presumptuous on your behalf.

She states correctly or incorrectly, that her preference is for men who are white. End of story.

Guess what boys, are you now going to tell her, because she is a some time escort, that she has to fuck everyone who calls her, otherwise she is discriminatory and or a racist, just like me?

I own several businesses both here and in the US and I do not sell my products to everyone, I reserve the right to do business with whomever I please and that is not going to change any time soon.

So start getting used to the real world, and trust me, that is the last comment on the subject from me and hope Admin closes this thread.

[Andrew69]

While you may characterize me as a racist ( not that I give a rat's ass)

you obviously missed the point entirely.

My point was simply, when it comes to spending my disposable income, I as the consumer, do have the unequivocal right to spend it where and with whom, I choose.

If I choose not to spend it with some one who has a face and hands covered with open sores, are you going to tell me I must do so?

I think not. Or then again maybe you poor bleeding hearts think that I should, because it is the right thing to do, because other wise I would be discriminating against the person who happens to be afflicted with some dreadful disease. It is called freedom of choice.

And in reply to the comment that Shelby would fuck some nice black guy just because he was nice or had a big dick is some what presumptuous on your behalf.

She states correctly or incorrectly, that her preference is for men who are white. End of story.

Guess what boys, are you now going to tell her, because she is a some time escort, that she has to fuck everyone who calls her, otherwise she is discriminatory and or a racist, just like me?

I own several businesses both here and in the US and I do not sell my products to everyone, I reserve the right to do business with whomever I please and that is not going to change any time soon.

So start getting used to the real world, and trust me, that is the last comment on the subject from me and hope Admin closes this thread.

I don't think anyone called Shelby a racist and there is a world of difference between choosing the race you sleep with (even when escorting) and refusing to see a cashier at Future Shop who was wearing a hijab. Uncle Monty is correct your act doesn't deem a racist as Islam is not a race. What you are is an Islamophobe. I feel sorry for you.