Wishful thinking

[Qwikkster88]

I doubt this will get anywhere, i'm looking for a first experience with a tgirl, but i am looking for someone who i can build a relationship with, not an escort (nothing wrong with that of course) but i want someone who i can hang out with an not be on the clock so to speak, someone i can get to know an hang out with an see what becomes of it.

As i'm sure this won't get me anywhere, but it doesn't hurt to try

[sensual_lover20]

I doubt this will get anywhere, i'm looking for a first experience with a tgirl, but i am looking for someone who i can build a relationship with, not an escort (nothing wrong with that of course) but i want someone who i can hang out with an not be on the clock so to speak, someone i can get to know an hang out with an see what becomes of it.

As i'm sure this won't get me anywhere, but it doesn't hurt to try

Wishful thinking because this is an escort review board. Head out o a club with some of these girls and your odds will increase dramatically. I live in Markham too so your not too far away from them.

[tslisaparadise]

Wishful thinking because this is an escort review board. Head out o a club with some of these girls and your odds will increase dramatically. I live in Markham too so your not too far away from them.

my honey started out chasing me for a year finnally he smartened up and rented me for awhile then took me out and then we fell in love so the trick is to find the right girl.

[capitus]

Damn Lisa, your new avatar is HOT!!

Q88, I wouldn't hold my breath were I you...but I wish you the best of luck though.

[Qwikkster88]

Wishful thinking because this is an escort review board. Head out o a club with some of these girls and your odds will increase dramatically. I live in Markham too so your not too far away from them.

Any suggestions on which club to go to?

[sensual_lover20]

Any suggestions on which club to go to?

Depends on the Day. Monday and Thursday = Goodhandy's. Wednesday and Saturday = George's Play. You have to be available one of those days. Also, you have to not be shy and lose some of your discreteness because no girl will be fond of you if you are unable to show your face with them in public. To some venturing out that club alone is a battle, and if that is the case for you then don't bother. Not saying you are this way, just my two cents. I'm sure Lisa's man chased her over the map and took her around everywhere and at no point he was discrete about being with her and if you want a girl you have to be like that too.

[Paco]

"I'm sure Lisa's man chased her over the map and took her around everywhere and at no point he was discrete about being with her and if you want a girl you have to be like that too."

Trannies should be realistic and realize that most men of quality would not be willing to do this.

The fact that the majority of shemales are prostitutes that have their photo's plastered all over the net, sex classifieds etc make it highly likely that they will be recognized.

If it ever got out, the man would be ostracized by society, family and friends.

Unless you have a very liberal group of friends and family that is simply out of the question.

Unless the man has family and friends with the attributes i mentioned above, a man parading around with a shemale is on the fringes of society.

[sensual_lover20]

"I'm sure Lisa's man chased her over the map and took her around everywhere and at no point he was discrete about being with her and if you want a girl you have to be like that too."

Trannies should be realistic and realize that most men of quality would not be willing to do this.

The fact that the majority of shemales are prostitutes that have their photo's plastered all over the net, sex classifieds etc make it highly likely that they will be recognized.

If it ever got out, the man would be ostracized by society, family and friends.

Unless you have a very liberal group of friends and family that is simply out of the question.

Unless the man has family and friends with the attributes i mentioned above, a man parading around with a shemale is on the fringes of society.

I know a lot of t-girls with boyfriends and such. Who knows what the guys disclose to their family and friends but I can assure you that many don't end up getting married for the reasons you mentioned above. It is a sad story, but unless a guy is willing to give up everything for a girl (ostracized by friends, family and possibly staff) then they will never be together. I do however hang out with a few t-friends and don't feel as if my integrity is in jeopardy. If I started posting around I want to date one it would probably be a different story I guess.

[tslisaparadise]

I know a lot of t-girls with boyfriends and such. Who knows what the guys disclose to their family and friends but I can assure you that many don't end up getting married for the reasons you mentioned above. It is a sad story, but unless a guy is willing to give up everything for a girl (ostracized by friends, family and possibly staff) then they will never be together. I do however hang out with a few t-friends and don't feel as if my integrity is in jeopardy. If I started posting around I want to date one it would probably be a different story I guess.

i seriously doubt he has to give up anything,ive met his parents and friends and hes lost nothing,its a big city mentalitty that sets you guys back,torontos supposed to be a melting pot of all kinds yet its the most predjudist place in canada by far.

[sensual_lover20]

i seriously doubt he has to give up anything,ive met his parents and friends and hes lost nothing,its a big city mentalitty that sets you guys back,torontos supposed to be a melting pot of all kinds yet its the most predjudist place in canada by far.

I agree. It's funny how Toronto is so multicultural and open face accepting when deep down lies all this prejudice. I also agree that it's a mentality thing because we all are affected by what others think. We can't help it though. Your man is lucky though, I know I myself would lose friends and family if I married a t-girl

[tslisaparadise]

I agree. It's funny how Toronto is so multicultural and open face accepting when deep down lies all this prejudice. I also agree that it's a mentality thing because we all are affected by what others think. We can't help it though. Your man is lucky though, I know I myself would lose friends and family if I married a t-girl

but your young and your friends have not grown enough mentally to accept things beyond there control,its funny as you mature and get older the little trivial things mean less and less,when izzy told his mom i was transgendered she ask him are you happy and he said more then ever and she said thats all that matters. and if anyone chooses there friends and family over someone you love what does that say about your personalitty,when i transitioned i never lost anyone my friends i grew up with are still with me and i hang out with my family whenever i want,i think its very sad the way people are in the big cities aka toronto when it comes to tgirls but then again it makes me feel so proud that i had the courage and strenth to stay in my hometown where its safe clean and a great place to live without the crap the other girls face in the big city,i know if i lived in toronto id be dead within a week with my big mouth id be shot for sure and how sad is that when you cant walk down a street without looking someone in the eye for fear of disrespecting them and worrying about some fuck up packing a 45.calibur

[sensual_lover20]

but your young and your friends have not grown enough mentally to accept things beyond there control,its funny as you mature and get older the little trivial things mean less and less,when izzy told his mom i was transgendered she ask him are you happy and he said more then ever and she said thats all that matters. and if anyone chooses there friends and family over someone you love what does that say about your personalitty,when i transitioned i never lost anyone my friends i grew up with are still with me and i hang out with my family whenever i want,i think its very sad the way people are in the big cities aka toronto when it comes to tgirls but then again it makes me feel so proud that i had the courage and strenth to stay in my hometown where its safe clean and a great place to live without the crap the other girls face in the big city,i know if i lived in toronto id be dead within a week with my big mouth id be shot for sure and how sad is that when you cant walk down a street without looking someone in the eye for fear of disrespecting them and worrying about some fuck up packing a 45.calibur

I am young and have lots to learn I guess. As the years go by I learn more and more and listen to the wisdom of others. I will listen to your experience on this one. Oh yea, the 45 calibre worries me too.

[Rose]

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Trannies should be realistic and realize that most men of quality would not be willing to do this.

The fact that the majority of shemales are prostitutes that have their photo's plastered all over the net, sex classifieds etc make it highly likely that they will be recognized.

If it ever got out, the man would be ostracized by society, family and friends.

Unless you have a very liberal group of friends and family that is simply out of the question.

Unless the man has family and friends with the attributes i mentioned above, a man parading around with a shemale is on the fringes of society.

The only trans girls I know who are escourts, are on this forum. I have dozens of trans friends (mtf and ftm), who don't escourt. It's a personal choice to do it, and it's the same for genetic girls, some choose to do it, some don't.

Like Lisa mentioned about herself, I also didn't lose any friends or family when I came out. I've also dated people openly, met their families, their friends, etc. With no problem. I also don't live in Toronto all year round, and I find outside the big city does seem less prejudice.

If you hang on to the mentallity that you can't live your life with a trans-girl you love out of fear of people judging you, then stick with paying for it, since not many girls will want to be with you, and then hidden away at the first sign of anyone finding out.

[tscurious]

Trannies should be realistic and realize that most men of quality would not be willing to do this.

The fact that the majority of shemales are prostitutes that have their photo's plastered all over the net, sex classifieds etc make it highly likely that they will be recognized.

One it depends on how you define quality. I would assume that any person who wants to be with someone else whether transgendered, gay, lesbian, or what would not be traditional in most cases could be subject to criticism and ridicule. Heck even race can be an issue in some cultures. I would have to disagree and say that it takes a man or woman of quality to suck it up and be with the person they want to be no matter what society says.

In terms of the majority of shemales being prostitutes, again I have to disagree with this. If you are saying this, then you look at the escort boards, and say assume there are 50 shemales that are prostitutes. Can you really say that there are less than 100 shemales in the GTA? I think not. I think the majority of shemales / ts are not prostitutes, the vast majority are probably trying to live stealth or feel they aren't attractive enough or whatever, but I find it hard to believe that statement.