Thanks but no thanks

[bleh123]

'shemales are only for fucking' may apply to some people.. but there are definitely a lot of guys out there seeking a ts for LTR.. its just all the hot ones seem to be either escorting or porning

[sadeh]

most straight guys lust after a hot hoe or drewl over pornstars,
but are not man enough to have a relationship with one

however there are still a few MEN left.....lol

'shemales are only for fucking' may apply to some people.. but there are definitely a lot of guys out there seeking a ts for LTR.. its just all the hot ones seem to be either escorting or porning

[maddplotter]

Guys also lust after strippers but to bring one home to meet mom, probably won't happen. I was friends with a couple of dancers, they were quite normal outside of work. One girl was a bit lonely because she had trouble meeting people because of her line of work. Point is, they do have feelings and everyone should deserve some level of respect and dignity.

[sensual_lover20]

no where man i am still in Toronto. i might be out this Thrusday ...
how about you ?


Respect!!!

Maybe...maybe. I am already downtown so I can pop by there, but I have to wake up so damn early every Friday that I can never make it

[Python]

There are many shemales (much less than half thankfully) out there who are borderline psychopathic. However, nearly all of them suffer from forms of narcissistic complexes. Meaning, they are generally completly obsessed with themselves... Especially their appearance.

I find this a big turn off relationship wise..

Because im more attracted to shemales than I am to females, I would love to be able to have a normal relationship with one, but it's pretty difficult, for a ton of reasons.

a) I'm picky and can normally get the girls I want, so I generally only go for the better looking ones. So that narrows it down to 10%

b) I wouldnt want a serious girlfriend having sex with other guys for money multiple times per week, so that narrows it down to like .1%

Then consider how hard it is to meet anything but TS escorts, considering how few TS are out there... I can see why people end up looking at transexuals as merely sexual objects.

Transsexuals obviously aren't objects, and feel, think act and care as much as any other gender, but it's very hard for most guys to get past the taboo aspect of it all.

But god damn they are so hot...

[Rose]

I don't think trans chicks are all narcissistic per say, but they are pre disposed to put a lot of theought into how they look, because they're raised on worrying about passing, and how they look.
Genetic girls are the same way, but it's been that way longer for them, so it's not as obvious.

And guys who say that most Tgirls are escorts don't know what they're saying. Of all the Transgirls in the Toronto area alone I know, maybe 2% escort. The thing is though, that the other 98% live stealth, and/or don't want to have sex with admirers/chasers/festishists, etc. Just the way it is. They're looking for a straight guy who loves them, even though they just happen to be trans, not because they're trans.
My two cents.

[Python]

I agree that many trans women dont want a guy who likes them cause they have a cock , but..

What's kind of ironic is when I date women who I love for who they are, who I've revealed about my trans fetish, and am not very attracted to their pusseis (but I love everything else about them), they get extremly insecure and mad...

Also I've been turned down by a tranny before because I am sexually attraced to them and their dicks, they get mad and wished I didnt like their genatalia...

But I am repulsed by most males, and there are very very few (1 out of a thousand max) that im physically attracted to...

Seems like moral of the story is no one can be satisfied..

[shemale_patriciaM]

There are many shemales (much less than half thankfully) out there who are borderline psychopathic. However, nearly all of them suffer from forms of narcissistic complexes. Meaning, they are generally completly obsessed with themselves... Especially their appearance.

I find this a big turn off relationship wise..

Because im more attracted to shemales than I am to females, I would love to be able to have a normal relationship with one, but it's pretty difficult, for a ton of reasons.

a) I'm picky and can normally get the girls I want, so I generally only go for the better looking ones. So that narrows it down to 10%

b) I wouldnt want a serious girlfriend having sex with other guys for money multiple times per week, so that narrows it down to like .1%

Then consider how hard it is to meet anything but TS escorts, considering how few TS are out there... I can see why people end up looking at transexuals as merely sexual objects.

Transsexuals obviously aren't objects, and feel, think act and care as much as any other gender, but it's very hard for most guys to get past the taboo aspect of it all.

But god damn they are so hot...

So eloquent....there is no such thing as borderline psychopat.....do your homework before writing. Most tgirls have narcisssistic personality....borderline personality? No....most of us are too scared to hurt ourselves physically so borderline personality is out of the question.

[Rose]

Patricia has a good point here, Borderline, Psychopathy(technically called Sociopathy), and Narcissistic personality disorders are all very different things. Some trans chicks may be majorly screwed up, but they wouldn't have all of those together. The statement that they are all mentally unstable is a very odd thing to say, because if you were to go to a mental health facility, there will be a bunch of genetic men and women, but maybe one or two trans people(For mental problems which are not connected to being transsexual).

But you're absolutely right on your point Python. They want you to hate their genitals because they hate them. It's just hard wired in their brain from 20+ years of hateing it themselves, they don't feel comfortable being intimate with someone who actually enjoys it. I know a lot of girls like this. It's hard, but you just have to take your time and hope you score one who personality wise makes you fall in love with her, but physically has what you need for an enjoyable sex life.

[bleh123]

someone informed me that most of the hot ones are escorts / pornstars because often times those are the only girls who can afford the multiple treatments and surgeries early on to really look good, so i guess that makes sense... so where are the girls who were born to rich accepting families and had all that done for free at an early age and are just looking for a man ?

[Python]

I meant borderline psychopathic, meaning almost psychopathic, not borderline personality disorder.

The way I phrased it was confusing.

[sadeh]

co-sign

co-sign

I don't think trans chicks are all narcissistic per say, but they are pre disposed to put a lot of theought into how they look, because they're raised on worrying about passing, and how they look.
Genetic girls are the same way, but it's been that way longer for them, so it's not as obvious.

And guys who say that most Tgirls are escorts don't know what they're saying. Of all the Transgirls in the Toronto area alone I know, maybe 2% escort. The thing is though, that the other 98% live stealth, and/or don't want to have sex with admirers/chasers/festishists, etc. Just the way it is. They're looking for a straight guy who loves them, even though they just happen to be trans, not because they're trans.
My two cents.

[Mackeral]

there are always sellers&buyers...
maybe the chemistry wasn't right in your last session.if you had sex with a shemale,you'll continue it your entire life.its a fantasy&obsession...
maybe you'll deny it ,you'll stop it for awhile then you'll find yourself checking the shemale videos,looking at the shemale pics and then you'll start it again...
we offer more than what you get from a female,we are more passionate,more pleasurable and sexy.thats why we have more clients than female escorts,thats why we charge more,thats why we re in high demand.
all of my clients are straight,majority of them are married.they come to me once awhile ,get their fantasy and then continue their regular lifes.we all need some spice, aren't we?
you are a TOTALLY STRAIGHT GUY,you mentioned that you like the tgirl who looks like a real girl,with boobs,curves...etc so stop judging yourself,enjoy with your sex life,and visit us whenever you get into that kinky mood... we come to this world only ONCE...
many kissesssssssssss

Man, here, here... Lucy I feel like a champion by reading your post. it's so true, why deny yourself and judge anything. I can't wait to get to Toronto one of these days to see you. I'd probably end up just admiring your beautiful face and talking to you for an hour and bask in the anticipation of getting up close and personal with you, i'm kinda like that! All i need is an excuse to make a 5 hour trip to TO now.

[Locomotion]

Man, here, here... Lucy I feel like a champion by reading your post. it's so true, why deny yourself and judge anything. I can't wait to get to Toronto one of these days to see you. I'd probably end up just admiring your beautiful face and talking to you for an hour and bask in the anticipation of getting up close and personal with you, i'm kinda like that! All i need is an excuse to make a 5 hour trip to TO now.

holy mackerel ... you've brought this very old thread back from the dead. It must be near hallowe'en ...

[Mackeral]

holy mackerel ... you've brought this very old thread back from the dead. It must be near hallowe'en ...

I see that now after reading the entire thread, I just admired Lucy's post from the OP and didn't read the rest of the thread. Oops
I won't comment on anything due to my ignorance in these matters. I will comment on how incredibly sexy Mia Isabella is, wow!