"Men That Like Shemales Are Closet Case Homosexuals"

[O'C]

Haley

It has to be a tough decision when to tell someone. Wish you the best, sure you do well with everything as you are a smart pretty girl.


O'C

[Haley]

Thank u for ur advice sweety, but even when i meet guys outside the sex industry, they still act like little mama boys! For example, i went to remingtons last sunday (girls nite) i was sitting down watching the dancer on stage stripping, then i noticed this cute customer walked past by me, and kept checking me out. In my mind, i was like ok, he's probally a fag and just looking at u cause u got big tits. He sat way at the end, and noticed he was still checking me out. He finally approched me, and smiled and asked if it was ok if he could sit beside me, i'm like sure. He offered to buy me a drink, i kindly said no. He said i was his first transsexual he was talking to in person. I'm like oh wow, and? He was like he's been fantasing about shemales for the past 2yrs, from jerking off to internet tranny porn. And that he always wanted to be with one.


When i asked him what he wanted to do with a shemale, he said suck my cock, and fuck me up the ass. I'm like that's cool, i told him i was surprised cause majoirty of men who are into shemales are bottoms. He's 27yrs old, from missisauga very cute, he kinda reminded me of xbf dallas cause he was wearing similar jacket like his. Anyways, i told him that shemales are basically wearing a very expensive halloween costume to look like women. He was confused and puzzeled, he's like why would u say that for? I'm like well, it's true, if they didn't have any money, they'd look like regular guys silly. He laughed and said oh yea of course. Then he was like i see Nina Arsenault on tv all the time and always wanted to meet her, and i think she's beautiful. I'm like i know her, she's a nice person. I'm thinking to myself, why talk about another tranny when ur with one right now? Wierd eh? Lol.... I asked him if he was a little nervous talking to a shemale for the first time, he said i'm not gonna lie, i am a little.


I told him there's a porno theater next door where u pay one dollar to get inside and u get ur own room to have fun. There's a leather sofa inside, with a big screen xxx porn screen and u can lock the door from the inside so u can have all the privacy u want. I told him i'm not sure if there open or not, so why don't i go check it out and i'll be right back in 2 mins. So I came back, saw him and told him it's closed, he ignored me and walked past by me, and left the club right away. And in my mind i was like what did i just do? I keep forgetting that i come across as too strong and straight forward and these are first timers, and u have to do everything slow with them, just like a new born baby, or else it'll start crying all nite, lol.


I think he was just a big pussy and scared by fooling around with me in person that will confirm his homosexuality side u know. I still thought it was rude to walk past by me like that and leave the club and ignore me, don't yea think? He did however said earlier that he wasn't gay, and he was 100% straight, and that the male dancer on stage is grossing him out. I'm like yea but why are u in a gay strip club for? He made up some stupid exscuse why, oh i was trying to find girls like u,, where u dance and shit. This just proves that men who like shemales are confused, big pussys, and got major issues big time! They all seem to act like little boys that need a mama to take care of them. Hehehhee. Anyways, what do u think why he just left the club and ignored me for? Do u think i came across as too pushy and shit? lol.



B@rbie Swallows

Well, first of all, you were in a gay bar. How do you expect to meet a nice straight guy in a gay bar. He wasn't in there hoping to meet a straight girl. He was hoping to meet a t-girl and there you were.

Secondly, you wrote, "He said i was his first transsexual he was talking to in person."

How did he know you were transsexual? From what I see in your photo, you look like you should pass easily. You have lovely skin, and beautiful bone structure, so I can't see why he would think you were trans just by looking at you unless it was the way you present yourself. Afterall, 50% of passing is attitude. Are you openly out as trans? Do you dress like a tranny, or do you dress like a woman. Are you over the top in mannerisms? I know some beautiful trans women who will never pass purely because they don't act like women do. Perhaps it's the attitude you present that makes people only see you as a tranny? You made this comment here which could be an indication.

"i told him that shemales are basically wearing a very expensive halloween costume to look like women. - if they didn't have any money, they'd look like regular guys silly."

Is this how you honestly see yourself? Are you really a woman, or are you a guy pretending to be a woman? True transsexualism in an incongruency with ones gender and physical sex. A true transsexual has a brain sex opposite from their body sex, and this is why they go through transition. So they can align there psychological self with their physical self. It's not a fetish. It's not a fantasy. It's not a way for a closet homosexual to justify having sex with men. It's a medical condition recognized by medical societies all over the world as a serious condition which requires medical intervention to correct. So if you're going around telling people we're "basically wearing a very expensive halloween costume", then you are disrespecting yourself, and all the other women, (like me) who know this to be a much more serious and personal issue. Like I said before, stop selling yourself short. You are not a fetish, fantasy, freak show, curiosity, sextoy, or whatever. You are a woman, so stop buying into what the tranny chasers want you to be. Instead, be the woman you really are.

By the way, I take offence to your comment about us "wearing a very expensive halloween costume to look like women. - if they didn't have any money, they'd look like regular guys." I've never had surgery for anything. My lips are real. My hair is real. My breasts are real. (Small but real.) My body is real. In fact, I haven't even had my throat surgery. I am as I was born, except softer and less body hair and I certainly don't look like a guy. Be careful what you say, especially to a new guy, because you are going to give him a bad first impression of all of us. That's probably why he walked out on you.

[GodEnder]

I'm sorry boys and girls, but it's true, weather u believe me or not, i don't give a fuck to be honest. But this is what i believe in, that men who are into trannys,, drag queens, shemales, cross-dressers are undercover closet case homosexuals. They have a hard time accepting themselves for being gay or bisexual, and they feel very bad and guilty for being sexually turned on and in lust for another cock to play with, sucking it and getting fucked up the ass. They can't do it for another man, so they go for a guy that looks like a chick, with fake tits, but still have a dick to fool around with, cause it makes them feel much more confortable with there own sexuality. Cause in there eyes they tell themseleves, oh i'm not a fag cause it's not a guy,, it's a girl with a penis. But i like to call it dudes with implants, not chicks with dicks, lol. These men have been told by society that being a fag is bad, and wrong, and they can't deal with it, so they go for shemales.



That explains why 90% of men that love trannys are bottoms, and enjoy sucking dick. Oh yea,, and they all claime there straight, yea right more like a prison undercover fags! No 1OO% straight guys would fool around with a shemale, and that's a fact! So here u have it,, men that like shemales are fags and don't even realize it yet, cause they believe there fooling around with ladies with speacil private parts, lol. I know,, its sad but true, u just gotta hear the truth, and i don't care if people hate me for this, but it's just my fucking opinion. I also believe that men that go for trannys are bi-curious,, then they go for regular guys and become super ultra hardcore gay! I feel like there just using us as a steping stone to experiment there latest homosexuality side. Majority of men i meet for sex are all sissy boys! Even my x-boyfriend Dallas, who by the way when i asked him if he he like me to get a pussy if he would like me more, and he replied back saying, i like the way u are right now barbie, with ur cock.


This is not a joke, i'm for real. They all beg me to fuck them up the ass, and they suck dick better then real girls do, lol. They act all bad and tough in the straight world, so nobody would suspect there fags, and then when there with shemales behind closed doors, they act so girly, what a turn off. They always ask me, oh barbie,, u like my ass,, can u bend me over and fuck me hard? But keep it a secret cause i don't want anybody to know about us, ok. I'm like oh god,, here's another closet case queer wanting to get fucked up the ass like a little bitch. Where are the real men out there that treat us like a real woman? I want my ass fucked. I want a top man out there. I want a real man! But i know that as long as u still got a penis between ur legs when ur a shemale, you'll always attract undercover fags! Hehhehehehhe. On a serious note, i do however feel alot comfortable as a transsexual woman then a gay boy. I can relate alot to the 'Little Mermaid" the half woman, half fish, but just minus the fucking tail to a big cock! Lol




B@rbie Swallows

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i dont know where to begin, so lets just start with preferences. both men and woman have preferences to what they are looking for in life and what they are looking for in a partner. these preferences are molded by family, friends, school, society, and the everyday events that transpire for that person. through this process people find out what fulfills them in life and howd they hope the society around will support their decision. the problem with this, is that most of the forces that mold us have a biased perspective of how the world works and how people should act in society. the forces who we try to impress or emulate might look down upon us for the slightest ideal difference, thus ruining our own mental preffered society. so to make sure this doesnt happen, people will hide their feelings and thoughts as to not upset this balance, but the need to feed those feelings and thoughts are always there.

some of the things that people use to degrade others and ruin there mental happiness are labels. such as "hes a drug addict, he's a homo, hes an atheist" for a few. when it comes to things like ostrizcing people for there love of money, for their love of religion, for their love of law, fundamental ideals like these are ingrained as to be the correct way of thinking allowing others to take the moral highground, because thats what they were taught is the norm, and they were taught if you stray from the norm, your an unacceptable person(this is sometime after kindergarden where were taught to love and appreciate everyone around us unless they intend to do us harm. one way they have us seperate ourselves is through labels, because we were TAUGHT to label things, instead of how to understand and appreciate peoples perpectives. so we lump people in to these labels. for example liberals and conservatives, good and evil (btw this is a terrible way to class people, they like using this term to justify war), straight or gay, giving no greivance for the grey area where we all live, because nothing is concrete, liberals will have some conservative ideals, some people who are evil will do good, and people who are straight will have homosexuals thoughts regardless of being in a relationship with the opposite sex for many years.

now to the issues. you say that 90% of the guys who like being fucked and like to suck cock are closet homos. this is most likely true. but the other 10% who like to fuck shemales are just as equally gay no more no less. there is no gaydar that measures like 14 richters on the homometer. by defination the difference between straight and gay is one more penis in most cases (or the same sex in terms of lesbians and post ops =D). just like there is no straightometer for people who are with the opposite sex. people have been told by society that being a fag is bad, i absolutely agree, not only that but peoples parents grandparents brothers and sisters, friends have all been told this too. and people dont want to risk the chance of ruining the relationship they have with these people because of feelings they cant control, and shouldnt have to.

you should be proud and honored by alot of things. that you and other shemales alike have the cahontes to go above the societal taboo despite the personal trials that ignorant people would put before you. you should be proud and honored that people have choosen to live the taboo, thus slowly furthering there understandings and slowly relieving the stigma, and allowing them to release pent up emotions. you should be proud and honored that you particapated in those "closet homos" coming out of the closet and being fully fledged about there sexuallity whether they still like shemales or they prefer male companionship. and you should be proud and honored you inspired my first post, a stepping stone to stepping stones.

i noticed somebody brought up porn and how people think about the one taking the male perspective and not the females, well some of these guys on the board have seen the females perspective. how they see females enjoying themselves being penetrated, the bigger the better. which is probably what alot of people on this board would like to experience which a lot of shemales say they like guys with huge tools so they themselves and yourself can expereince. everyones looking for their slice of life and they see you as the promoter for their gateway in to this, they often forgetting about your needs and wants. usually a simple hint like " now that i fucked you in the ass, i want you to fuck me in the ass" will suffice.

and i appreciate the in your face stance you took on this, sometimes cuddling peoples ideas isnt enough sometimes you gotta throw it in their face for them to get it, or at least think about. just remember that society is slowly crawling to a more understanding world view, and that soon these people will have no need to hide their true feelings, and the labels will get tossed away as the true taboo.

in conclusion, dont be too harsh on people that want the same thing as you, but if they ask stupid questions about labels.... let them have it =D
remember everyone were on this site for a reason, so lets be fucking merry about it YEEEEEEE.

Ps- hope you find the person your looking for that will make you happy.


Pss- you forgot to quote the joker on the "WHY SO SERIOUS" best qoute ever btw =D

[knight]

Of all the unmitigated crap! You really have no idea what you are talking about. Just the non-sensical ravings of someone with alot of hate built up.

[Barbie_Swallows]

[quote

"i told him that shemales are basically wearing a very expensive halloween costume to look like women. - if they didn't have any money, they'd look like regular guys silly."

Is this how you honestly see yourself? Are you really a woman, or are you a guy pretending to be a woman? True transsexualism in an incongruency with ones gender and physical sex. A true transsexual has a brain sex opposite from their body sex, and this is why they go through transition. So they can align there psychological self with their physical self. It's not a fetish. It's not a fantasy. It's not a way for a closet homosexual to justify having sex with men. It's a medical condition recognized by medical societies all over the world as a serious condition which requires medical intervention to correct. So if you're going around telling people we're "basically wearing a very expensive halloween costume", then you are disrespecting yourself, and all the other women, (like me) who know this to be a much more serious and personal issue. Like I said before, stop selling yourself short. You are not a fetish, fantasy, freak show, curiosity, sextoy, or whatever. You are a woman, so stop buying into what the tranny chasers want you to be. Instead, be the woman you really are. [/quote]




Ok first off, i think i must have mentioned this on tgirlforums over 1,OOO times, that i don't wanna be a REAL girl, just a SHEMALE! I'm comfortable being a tranny, (boobs & a cock) period. I never wanted to get a fake pussy and become a house wife. I do however tuck my cock between my legs while wearing a thong whenever i go out, and in the house too. Why do i have to choose, to be either male or female, why can't i just be both? Lol.... I see nothing wrong with being a beautful shemale. I guess most tgirls are still backwards or perhaps they feel more like a true woman. I feel like a girl inside my heart and soul, but i will never go as far as getting my dick cut off and turn it into a vagina. That would be the most horrible thing ever! Ummmm, what else can i say? Alot of transsexuals always tell me, oh barbie, u got boobs now, so there's no need for u to wear alot of makeup, why don't u tone it down and start dressing and looking more passable as a lady.


But i keep telling everyone that's just not my style. I don't wanna look like a real girl, i find that too boring. I enjoy looking like a tranny with tits. Love me or hate me for it, i don't give a dame. Take a look at Amanda Lepore, she's a tranny, but she has a vagina, but her style looks very drag queenish. I think most people could still tell she's a guy, i think it's very obvious. But i like her for the fact that shes being herself and not trying to be like every tranny in the world u know. I really admire her, i don't know why. She's the one that inspired me to my blow job lips, lol. Some guys get turned on by over the top looking shemales, and some prefere the natural next door type. Remember every folk got a different stroke! Anyways, i gotta go back to jerking off to gay porn now! Ta ta! Lol Oh yea here's pics down below of Amanda Lepore, the most famous transsexuals in the WORLD!
B@rbie Swallows

[O'C]

Once again Barbie hits a home run.



O'C

[Howard1959]

So I,m on the fence and dont understand myself.No just safe as she says SWALLOWS.
Well what is that
I think some here have alot of stuff inside them,Me Just a FAG INSIDE,
Raised 3 kids one of my brothers,one not mine but is now,one created by me and my love,
WOOOOOOOOW just got a little about myself but that is what us under lumber do.

[kristopin]

confused

[quote

"i told him that shemales are basically wearing a very expensive halloween costume to look like women. - if they didn't have any money, they'd look like regular guys silly."

Is this how you honestly see yourself? Are you really a woman, or are you a guy pretending to be a woman? True transsexualism in an incongruency with ones gender and physical sex. A true transsexual has a brain sex opposite from their body sex, and this is why they go through transition. So they can align there psychological self with their physical self. It's not a fetish. It's not a fantasy. It's not a way for a closet homosexual to justify having sex with men. It's a medical condition recognized by medical societies all over the world as a serious condition which requires medical intervention to correct. So if you're going around telling people we're "basically wearing a very expensive halloween costume", then you are disrespecting yourself, and all the other women, (like me) who know this to be a much more serious and personal issue. Like I said before, stop selling yourself short. You are not a fetish, fantasy, freak show, curiosity, sextoy, or whatever. You are a woman, so stop buying into what the tranny chasers want you to be. Instead, be the woman you really are.

Ok first off, i think i must have mentioned this on tgirlforums over 1,OOO times, that i don't wanna be a REAL girl, just a SHEMALE! I'm comfortable being a tranny, (boobs & a cock) period. I never wanted to get a fake pussy and become a house wife. I do however tuck my cock between my legs while wearing a thong whenever i go out, and in the house too. Why do i have to choose, to be either male or female, why can't i just be both? Lol.... I see nothing wrong with being a beautful shemale. I guess most tgirls are still backwards or perhaps they feel more like a true woman. I feel like a girl inside my heart and soul, but i will never go as far as getting my dick cut off and turn it into a vagina. That would be the most horrible thing ever! Ummmm, what else can i say? Alot of transsexuals always tell me, oh barbie, u got boobs now, so there's no need for u to wear alot of makeup, why don't u tone it down and start dressing and looking more passable as a lady.


But i keep telling everyone that's just not my style. I don't wanna look like a real girl, i find that too boring. I enjoy looking like a tranny with tits. Love me or hate me for it, i don't give a dame. Take a look at Amanda Lepore, she's a tranny, but she has a vagina, but her style looks very drag queenish. I think most people could still tell she's a guy, i think it's very obvious. But i like her for the fact that shes being herself and not trying to be like every tranny in the world u know. I really admire her, i don't know why. She's the one that inspired me to my blow job lips, lol. Some guys get turned on by over the top looking shemales, and some prefere the natural next door type. Remember every folk got a different stroke! Anyways, i gotta go back to jerking off to gay porn now! Ta ta! Lol Oh yea here's pics down below of Amanda Lepore, the most famous transsexuals in the WORLD!
B@rbie Swallows








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ok so this post confused me. Barbie i think you have it right that we should just enjoy ouselves for who we are not who others want us to be. i thought you were going off on 'shemale' admireres before and telling us that they were all gay. i'm not sure if this was your intent or what but in the end as you also want then everyone has the right to be themselves so i dont get the point here. i guess being 58 allows me to be dumb at times.

[Haley]

Ok first off, i think i must have mentioned this on tgirlforums over 1,OOO times, that i don't wanna be a REAL girl, just a SHEMALE! I'm comfortable being a tranny, (boobs & a cock) period. I never wanted to get a fake pussy and become a house wife. I do however tuck my cock between my legs while wearing a thong whenever i go out, and in the house too. Why do i have to choose, to be either male or female, why can't i just be both? Lol.... I see nothing wrong with being a beautful shemale. I guess most tgirls are still backwards or perhaps they feel more like a true woman. I feel like a girl inside my heart and soul, but i will never go as far as getting my dick cut off and turn it into a vagina. That would be the most horrible thing ever! Ummmm, what else can i say? Alot of transsexuals always tell me, oh barbie, u got boobs now, so there's no need for u to wear alot of makeup, why don't u tone it down and start dressing and looking more passable as a lady.


But i keep telling everyone that's just not my style. I don't wanna look like a real girl, i find that too boring. I enjoy looking like a tranny with tits. Love me or hate me for it, i don't give a dame. Take a look at Amanda Lepore, she's a tranny, but she has a vagina, but her style looks very drag queenish. I think most people could still tell she's a guy, i think it's very obvious. But i like her for the fact that shes being herself and not trying to be like every tranny in the world u know. I really admire her, i don't know why. She's the one that inspired me to my blow job lips, lol. Some guys get turned on by over the top looking shemales, and some prefere the natural next door type. Remember every folk got a different stroke! Anyways, i gotta go back to jerking off to gay porn now! Ta ta! Lol Oh yea here's pics down below of Amanda Lepore, the most famous transsexuals in the WORLD!
B@rbie Swallows

Ohhh, I see now. I had never seen one of your pervious postings about wanting to be a shemale. It all makes sense to me now. I'm sorry. Please disregard all my advice because I thought you were a woman. If you are happy being both a woman and a man, then all the power to you. You are being true to yourself and how many people can say that?

I sincerely hope you do find the right guy for you. You certainly deserve it just as much as anyone does.

[sensual_lover20]

In that girl's third picture she looks like Mr. Ed. I don't know why she would pay so much money to look like Mr. Ed, I sure wouldn't. Neigh!

[Barbie_Swallows]

Ohhh, I see now. I had never seen one of your pervious postings about wanting to be a shemale. It all makes sense to me now. I'm sorry. Please disregard all my advice because I thought you were a woman. If you are happy being both a woman and a man, then all the power to you. You are being true to yourself and how many people can say that?

I sincerely hope you do find the right guy for you. You certainly deserve it just as much as anyone does.

Oh thank u sweety, ur so very kind. I just like being a tranny! Not ashamed of it like most tgirls are in the community. Yes i've tricked a few straight guys b4 and sucked them off in the past and i didn't tell them the truth about my status about being a shemale. That's only because i wanted to see how far i can go to get straight guys u know, lol. I realized that was very stupid of me and very dumb, and very dangerous, cause i could have gotten beaten up or even killed if they felt or seen my erection poping out of my pants, lol. I have however told guys right away about my status being a shemale, and they have no problem with it, they still wanna have sex even though it's there first time fooling around with one. There's nothing wrong with being proud of being a shemale, half man, half woman. Why conform to society standards in this is what u gotta do or look like inorder to be a real passable woman.


I see it like this,, even the ones that do pass as women 24/7, at the end as long as u still got a dick between ur legs you'll always attract undercover fags and that's a fact. I'm sorry i offended u by saying shemales are pretty much wearing a very expensive halloween costume to look like chicks, but i was just speaking the truth from my own view and opinion on transsexualism. But u know it's true, why lie to ur self ? lol. I mean seriously, if all the t-girls on this site were to post pictures of themselves before there transformation from male to female, you'd see a big difference, don't yea think?. I think i'm the most entertaining person on this site and also the most loved & hated too. Alot of times people always misunderstood me. I think it's because most trannys go 1 way, and i go the other direction that most fear cause they don't got the guts to be themselves, being judges and so forth.


Anyways alot of people always ask me so barbie u gonna get a pussy, i always tell them no. Why get a fake pussy when plenty of men love u for being a shemale, and desire ur cock. U know what i mean? I already got a tight ass to get fucked, no need to get a fake man made SLOPPY pussy which u must self lubricate it daily to open ur hole up, and on top of that u can't even get an orgasam, period, or pregnet. It's just a fucking fake cunt, i can't be bothered. I think most men prefere and desire the real thing. Just like men prefere shemales with our real cocks and not girls wearing strap on dildos to fuck them up the ass. The real thing is always better anyways. Real girls get fake boobs too, so that's nothing for me to worry about. I just think getting a pussy is way too far. I think it's actually very disgusting to be honest. How can a guy put his penis inside a fake pussy knowing hours and hours of surgeries & blood was once there to make that nasty frankestine shit? Lol. Ok i said enough, i think i offended once again the transgender community. Goodnight!


B@rbie Swallows



***Me in the middle dressed up like MARILYN MANSON on halloween night of Oct 31' 2OO8***

[sensual_lover20]

Barbie,

Is that asian girl supposed to be in that picture?

If all girls are wearing an expensive Halloween costume, how come when they come to my door they don't say trick or treat? Also, what do they wear for Halloween? Dual costumes? Triple the fantansy! On a side I can see a slight relation, Halloween is awesome and so are t-girls.

[curious]

labels

you turn me on some women turn me on some don't not all tgirls turn me on that is what we are talking about cheers

[Lani]

Pros And Con

Anyways alot of people always ask me so barbie u gonna get a pussy, i always tell them no. Why get a fake pussy when plenty of men love u for being a shemale, and desire ur cock. U know what i mean? I already got a tight ass to get fucked, no need to get a fake man made SLOPPY pussy which u must self lubricate it daily to open ur hole up, and on top of that u can't even get an orgasam, period, or pregnet. It's just a fucking fake cunt, i can't be bothered. I think most men prefere and desire the real thing. Just like men prefere shemales with our real cocks and not girls wearing strap on dildos to fuck them up the ass. The real thing is always better anyways. Real girls get fake boobs too, so that's nothing for me to worry about. I just think getting a pussy is way too far. I think it's actually very disgusting to be honest. How can a guy put his penis inside a fake pussy knowing hours and hours of surgeries & blood was once there to make that nasty frankestine shit? Lol.


B@rbie Swallows

This is actually worthy of consideration. As I was one of those who are seriously opting to go under the knife to become a full woman, which in this post clearly explained would be hard to achieve, just changing your anatomy doesn't mean you really become one.

Legality is one pro, you will be recognized on all legal papers as a female, but as we know now, you can change your gender on your driver's license and health card in ontario, with passport... well, according to Nikki is one major hurdle as it is federal, but a number of transgendered women here claimed that on their passport their gender indicate that they are female even with their inborn male sex organ, now this is what I would definitely ask, if I'll be given a chance when I attend Nikki's "Sex for Sale" event in March.

As I would like to know If i'll be violating law if on my passport says it's a female, even withour SRS. coz, I spoke to a few who said their gender in their passport says 'male'
and never had any problems when travelling , crossing border. There are some gray areas here that I want to be educated, and then there are those who said that their gender is female on theirs, even without SRS, is there any legal or lawyers help you needed to change your sex status from 'male' to 'female.' on my passport? Another pro of course after a successful surgery is the elimination of pulling and tucking in when wearing a tight sexy dress, swimsuit, bikini or even a stretch denim pants in a non t-girl friendly environment.

Barbie's thread is a little eye opening for me on whether to aspire for that ultimate goal. I realized now after being exposed to the community, that having a pussy doesn't necessarily mean your no longer a part of the community. SRS people still consider themselves as transexual and a former male and still wanting to be or maybe doesn't have a choice but to remain and be labelled as part of the transgendered community, so in essence, you'll never get away from what you are and what you have been and neither can't hide in your future relationships ( as truth will and always hunts you down) even if you move to a place where nobody knows your past, as that is likely will be like in self exile, and being in exile and away from your friends and family is the most devastating lost to anyone, and I won't/never be happy with that, I'm much rather be considered dead.

So! darn! Barbie your frankness and truthfulness has starting to change my mind. I'd rather just have a boob job and forget about saving more money to change my anatomy, I think I'll just have to change my outlook, perspective and attitude about my sexuality. As seeing some sexually altered people (SRS) still miserable and running all the time, running from the truth, running from reality, and as what Barbie's trying to express thru her post this is what we are. And I did witness a number of post-op T-girl, who after settling down with the guy who they thought are their future and only to find out that the hopes and blissful ending all died in a matter of years, some say oh! no! we're happy and contented and no problems are lying to their teeth.

So in ending, I think I will just try my best to be happy for what I have right now and who know's tomorrow (or the future ) is another day for a scarlet like me. All I want to know for now is how to change that gender box on my passport, that is what always bothers me everytime I travel.

[kristopin]

another two cents

the whole question of how one decides to transition or how far is i think a totally personal decision based on individual truths.

we seem to get transition and relationships mixed up a bit. 6 months ago i was pure heterosexual and married for 30 years. the nature of that relationship put me in hospital so i think we have to be honest and realise that all human relationships between two individuals is going to have its good times and bad. we can only hope for more good than bad. its about communication, honesty, love, sharing, caring and so on. i guess the person that can figure this all out will put dr.phil out of work.