My Dilemma

[wellhungone]

Interesting

I'm going to have to sleep on this one tonight. Going aboard seems fair ?

I'll respond tomorrow, I'm in the same boat for different reasons.

I'll have to cut out the lounge and goodhandys for different reasons.

With tough times ahead, I'm one of the unlucky/lucky ones. I have a job but been told that we are on reduce work weeks to cut cost and save jobs. So my tgirl spend in going to reduce next to nothing.

Sensual Lover, you'll be missed !

[sensual_lover20]

Thank you everyone for your input. It truly shows how many people are in the same boat as me and shows who cares for my presence here. I want to say that Jen was saying in her post(s) that I will find not find what I desire because I post my adventures with other working girls. I do that to pay my thanks to the members here who once helped me out in my earlier years. As I grew and came out into the community, I made a lot of good friends and started to see a life with a t-girl. I know every asian t-girl will know this and read this, why do you think I am posting it? Possibly some read between the lines. I do agree my chances are shot in Toronto Jen, for reasons you stated and many more. Nice guys finish last as the old adage goes. I cannot deny my past and it is better to be open than live little white lies. I do not see why if I a guy will accept a girl who has escorted why she cannot accept a guy who has seen an escort, there is a catch 22. Jen, you are a good friend of mine and will always be. Prettyboy, youngboy4ts and Rantsalot, who I have all met in person, I would never deny any outing with any of you because you are all great persons. I have never met wellhungone, dan_calgary, and kristopin but I also believe they have good hearts and minds in the right places despites their choices of seeing escorts. As Admins says, it is not like you see t-girls all the time and in fact, they are probably not much more than over 100 in Toronto by my count which limits your odds. Craigyb may be right, but I was certain several girls are digging gold (i.e. visas) rather than a relationship. It is time to start making some important decisions and attempt to help others make some too. I tried following my heart but it has been broken into a million pieces so I am left to clean up the mess. When I put it back together well see what path the road of life takes me!(maybe church street again, hehe)

[Rantsalot]

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I'm going to need time to respond.

[Lani]

I want to say that Jen was saying in her post(s) that I will find not find what I desire because I post my adventures with other working girls. I do that to pay my thanks to the members here who once helped me out in my earlier years. As I grew and came out into the community, I made a lot of good friends and started to see a life with a t-girl. I know every asian t-girl will know this and read this, why do you think I am posting it? Possibly some read between the lines. I do agree my chances are shot in Toronto Jen, for reasons you stated and many more. Nice guys finish last as the old adage goes. I cannot deny my past and it is better to be open than live little white lies. I do not see why if I a guy will accept a girl who has escorted why she cannot accept a guy who has seen an escort, there is a catch 22. Jen, you are a good friend of mine and will always be. Prettyboy, youngboy4ts and Rantsalot, who I have all met in person, I would never deny any outing with any of you because you are all great persons. I have never met wellhungone, dan_calgary, and kristopin but I also believe they have good hearts and minds in the right places despites their choices of seeing escorts. As Admins says, it is not like you see t-girls all the time and in fact, they are probably not much more than over 100 in Toronto by my count which limits your odds. Craigyb may be right, but I was certain several girls are digging gold (i.e. visas) rather than a relationship. It is time to start making some important decisions and attempt to help others make some too. I tried following my heart but it has been broken into a million pieces so I am left to clean up the mess. When I put it back together well see what path the road of life takes me!(maybe church street again, hehe)

My post were not actually attributed to you J, as I am aware of just one posted review by you. And this is the first time you have opened up about your desire to meet someone for a romantic liason, which unfortunately did not come into a reality.

But, I have read a lot from guys who are looking for the same from this forum, a romance they were hoping to find here.
But at the same time openly cruising and salivating at every girl (working) that's advertised here, asking "who is this girl", anyone been with this girl? Anyone? how much it cost you? is she good? that would pretty much send a signal that this guy is a player and not a romance seeker.

Attractive visual image is always important to admirers and we know that, ( why not be choosy, if it'll cost you a lot of money).And tgirls has the same analogy, if they're not attracted, why give it for free. And you are correct, why does a girl can't accept a guy who see escort, if a guy can accept them despite being an escort. It's actually not just guy accepting her for what she is and what's her past, it's more of a guy's sincere effort to offer her a new life, and not just sex as a dole out.
And girls are a little selfish, knowing a guy who intends to court her shared his most private moments with so many others in full details for the whole enchanted transgendered kingdom to read. Again hypocrisy on the part of the girl you might say, but men pays for this act and girls do this work to survive. And in courtships much effort is expected more from the guys.

All I'm saying is, if a romantic escapades is what you are seeking for (this is for the members who are always asking "where can I find a tgirl for romance and not business")
You better start now by ceasing to ask about a certain girls fees, services and sexual capacity in the open, just inquire privately. Guys who are here for their fetish and carnal plans are doing exactly what they are here for, they got no ambitions on finding someone to romance and they have no qualms to surrender their donated funds,
( that is if they are not yet affected by the current recession ).

[Dani]

Another interesting thread, Sensual only you in your heart will know what to do, never let anyone dictate your life, advice and opinions are just that, nothing more.

Admin, interesting points for sure. Me I just want someone to see me for me, what is in my heart. If this person is judging me on my passibility or th thing between my legs I don't have time for that. If that person can not walk beside me down the street in public I don't have time for that. I'm me , a human being with a heart, far from discrete.

just my $0.25CAD....

Isn't this Twoman single and looking? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I swear her posts scream out "I want an honest to goodness boyfriend" Why on earth haven't you guys jumped at the opportunity? She's beautiful, NOT an escort, has a normal job; albeit in the porn industry - but wtf is wrong with you people?

Or is it because she admitted to the fact that her penor is practically lifeless? It's all about the penis for you people. Barbie is right.

whatev.

[Dani]

My post were not actually attributed to you J, as I am aware of just one posted review by you. And this is the first time you have opened up about your desire to meet someone for a romantic liason, which unfortunately did not come into a reality.

But, I have read a lot from guys who are looking for the same from this forum, a romance they were hoping to find here.
But at the same time openly cruising and salivating at every girl (working) that's advertised here, asking "who is this girl", anyone been with this girl? Anyone? how much it cost you? is she good? that would pretty much send a signal that this guy is a player and not a romance seeker.

Attractive visual image is always important to admirers and we know that, ( why not be choosy, if it'll cost you a lot of money).And tgirls has the same analogy, if they're not attracted, why give it for free. And you are correct, why does a girl can't accept a guy who see escort, if a guy can accept them despite being an escort. It's actually not just guy accepting her for what she is and what's her past, it's more of a guy's sincere effort to offer her a new life, and not just sex as a dole out.
And girls are a little selfish, knowing a guy who intends to court her shared his most private moments with so many others that the whole enchanted transgendered kingdom could read. Again hypocrisy on the part of the girl you might say, but men pays for this act and girls do this work to survive. And in courtships much effort is expected more from the guys.

All I'm saying is, if a romantic escapades is what you are seeking for (this is for the members who are always asking "where can I find a tgirl for romance and not business")
You better start now by ceasing to ask about a certain girls fees, services and sexual capacity in the open, just inquire privately. Guys who are here for their fetish and carnal plans are doing exactly what they are here for, they got no ambitions on finding someone to romance and they have no qualms to surrender their donated funds,
( that is if they are not yet affected by the current recession ).

My favourite post ever. Heed this girl - she speaks with wisdom. If you're a guy - then I'm inlove.

[toban]

A message for sensual_lover - HANG IN ALREADY!

This will likely be my last thread and possibly stream of posts. will post my current dilemma soon and you can give me your thoughts or not. Looking forward to your opinions.
............................ I bid you all adieu.

I can understand your feelings of frustration and disappointment over what you see as the apparent impossibility of fulfilling your desire to establish a “real’ relationship with a special T-girl of your choice and desire. Perhaps this is just not the right time for you to pursue this ideal. It is highly unlikely that any person can decide what kind of girl they want to spend their life with, then go out and “find” her within a month or a year or so even. Falling in love can not be programmed or arranged - it just happens, sometimes when least expected. The two parties have little, to no control over it.

It is evident that you enjoy this Forum and that you’ve developed many friendships here. You apparently enjoy the friendships and camaraderie that you find at Goodhandys. You seem to enjoy the company of many girls here and at Goodhandys or elsewhere.

Obviously you feel that you have been thwarted in your attempts to find a mate, but why would you then consider that alone, to be a sufficient reason to give up all those other things that you know you enjoy here, the Forum, the friends, the camaraderie and the T-girls you already know, or may yet get to know. To give all that up is only to make yourself feel more miserable.

Now, in our everyday lives we all have to endure setbacks and we will all encounter obstacles that appear to thwart our goals. It is better, I feel, to learn to accept that things like that will happen to us, and life simply will not always go as we would like. When circumstances dictate that there is little likelihood of us overcoming these hardships, that to simply accept those facts or circumstances and make the best of the situation, far outweighs giving up everything.

Do not exit!

Keep all your options open!

Salvage what you can and enjoy whatever remains!

[kristopin]

Love

I have always thought this and it is as if this is just a truism of human existence. LOVE is the most powerful force we know. When we know that we are loved then our world goes round all so lovely. sounds a little silly but if you think about it you may agree. If we are loved and can share the love that lives inside us all then we are able to live in all kinds of horrible situations and squalor. WITHOUT love and the feeling of being loved we are terribly lonely then we become capable of doing all the horrible things we seen done in our world. this seems to be a simple truth to me. We who live in our wonderful country are blessed with so much, others in the world live in terrible conditions and when they feel that they are not loved then we see all kinds of problems arising.


Well that may be just an older hippies lament, but it is what i believe, makes sense of my world. I know i am alone. I know i will always be alone unless there appears a miracle. It's just the way it is for me. There may not be enough time left for me to share the massive amount of love that is inside me. so those that are younger then take heart you know what makes you happy, how to find love.

[alyssa1]

what u say can be influential even if it might be on the subconsciouss

i don't mean any disrepect sl but dont you think all this talk about going or not going to see tgirls is having a negative and influential affect on the other senior members/new member.if someone feels like this is not their cup of tea anymore than they shouldnt be part of this forum.all im saying from what i see this is having a negative reaction n new or senior members.am i wrong for speaking my mind? please dont misunderstand what im saying i just needed to say what i had to.feel free to retort. alyssa

[sensual_lover20]

i don't mean any disrepect sl but dont you think all this talk about going or not going to see tgirls is having a negative and influential affect on the other senior members/new member.if someone feels like this is not their cup of tea anymore than they shouldnt be part of this forum.all im saying from what i see this is having a negative reaction n new or senior members.am i wrong for speaking my mind? please dont misunderstand what im saying i just needed to say what i had to.feel free to retort. alyssa

Your opinion is valid anytime. I do not take offence to your comments. I know you personally and know that you would not intentionally try to offend me. I don't think that it is having an influential effect. It is essentially their decision to stay or leave, as is mine. Many must have felt like me, so when I decided to share my dilemma they also realized they were in the same boat as me. When I say it is not my cup of tea anymore, I will openly leave. However, I proposed three options because I have not reached that position (and may never) yet. Perhaps you could share your honest opinion with me, no matter how rough it may be. It would be appreciated in the long run.

[sensual_lover20]

On a side note, thank you Toban, kristopin and Jen for your continued inputs.
Also to those who have sent me PMs.

[prettyboy]

While I can see your point ,that discussing the negative aspects of life for the men that share an attraction to TGirls is probably not very good for business, I feel that it is a shared dilemma that is probably inevitable for us all to experience one day. Consequently it is a valid discussion scenario.
This forum has evolved from a 'show us your cock' and 'isn't Lucy/Tia/Lola hot'
'am I gay' superficial wankfest into men and a few of the girls sharing the feelings in their hearts, not just between their legs.
There are those of us who have fallen under the spell of the "third sex' and in many cases have re-shaped our lives in order to be true to these feelings. We are no longer satisfied with an occasional overpriced hour of debauchery. As sensitive and loving human beings we seek a deeper and more meaningful interaction . Sadly at this point reality steps in , the objects of our desires prove to be just that, objects that are rentable by the hour, not available beyond , unless you want to pay for the next hour.
As someone who now wants only to be with a TGirl you are treated with distain, a 'tranny chaser'.
There are ways to have more intimate relationships with the girls , I for instance have one girl who is my princess, I have little interest in seeing other girls, I treat her well, I CARE about how she is doing, she knows that I am there for her if she ever needs anything,we have beautiful loving sex, we are friends and I 'love her to death'. I am under no illusion that we can ever have a regular possessive relationship, our worlds are so far apart in so many ways, but I can feel and share my love for her, just the thought of her brings a smile to my face.
So anyway Alyssa I think these discussions are valid and I hope that business continues to bloom for you and the other girls and that the men here feel free to express their emotions beyond how many times they squirt over a picture of a girls tits/ass/cock, though thats all right too.

[dan_calgary]

ok, so what do i do

well, i have an absolutely gorgeous gg, pursuing me, and to put the record straight, I love women & t-girls, no interest in men, so what do i do . . . . . . .

do i turn down what could be a great girl, because I might be gay or bi or etc. . .

or do i pursue a great oppourtunity regardless, ?

i am so confused, she called me and asked me out, how do i say no, when the reality is there are less then 1000 t-girls in Canada, and the chances are slim on a ltr.

well ?

i don't know what to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thnx all in advance !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rantsalot]

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Escorts, t women, tranny chasers, hyperbolic egos and so on and so forth. A thread like this and we still have labels flying every which way. Shame. Upon reading this some may say this is an inflated "Hallmark Card" type of approach nonetheless it is most certainly real. Dealing with emotions is the very fabric of what makes people people.


Sensual Lover. I can list psychological, economical, biological and many other "ical" terms and ideas as to how to approach this but the post would go on forever.

Obviously you have a passion for the people here, the forum and these wonderful ladies.

Fantastic.

It just seems and sounds like you've finally become totally overwhelmed. Personally all I can say is sit back and just take a breather. Quitting? Pfft. Don't quit. If this is all because of a girl who isn't paying you the attention that you deserve well, as hard as this may be to accept....forget that person and move on. Don't go wasting time and energy with someone who will never reciprocate their feelings. It's their loss and in time they'll learn what a tragic mistake they've made. if a vacation is what you need then do it. If seeing a "gg" (hate that title) helps then do it. Just don't give up entirely as that leads to insurmountable regret.

Others here have posted their views as to how finding a relationship within this group of people is wrong, easy, impossible , a dream come true etc etc. but you know what, it can still happen. Any relationship can be created under any circumstance wherever and whenever. As in most things in life relationships come easy to those and for those it takes a lifetime. Cliche I know.


Here's another cliche that still to this day holds true. Don't try so hard in finding someone. Seems the more you try the harder it is to connect with people.

What more can be said that hasn't been said already? You have support just hang in there, your time will come you'll see.

[kristopin]

yep go for it

well, i have an absolutely gorgeous gg, pursuing me, and to put the record straight, I love women & t-girls, no interest in men, so what do i do . . . . . . .

do i turn down what could be a great girl, because I might be gay or bi or etc. . .

or do i pursue a great oppourtunity regardless, ?

i am so confused, she called me and asked me out, how do i say no, when the reality is there are less then 1000 t-girls in Canada, and the chances are slim on a ltr.

well ?

i don't know what to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thnx all in advance !!!!!!!!!!!!

i'd also say go for it. you have to do what will make you happy. BUT!!!!! if you still have your interest in 'tgirl's' or think you are bi then maybe you have to tell the girl. if you deceive her and stray because of need then all ehll will break loose. choose wisely be honest.


sorry sl didnt mean to deviate.