I've got breasts now so that means I'm a real shemale and you're not.

[Rantsalot]

You can't imagine how many times I have heard this at some of the Toronto bars that I've visited on occasion. A girl who is transitioning doesn't have breasts. A few people take it upon themselves to say that they are nothing more than a crossdresser or tv.

Skip ahead a few months

The girl who people labeled now has breasts and now everybody has praise for her. It's as if that is THE step to finally be welcomed and accepted into the shemale world so to speak.

Personally I think it's a lot of BS yet I would love to know why some people would be so cruel to think and talk this way in the first place other than the obvious reason that they just can and it's their "right" to be cruel.

[Wiseone26]

You can't imagine how many times I have heard this every time I have visited some of the Toronto bars. A girl who is transitioning doesn't have breasts. A few people take it upon themselves to say that they are nothing more than a crossdresser or tv.

Skip ahead a few months

The girl who people labeled now has breasts and now everybody has praise for her. It's as if that it THE step to finally be welcomed into the shemale world so to speak.

Personally I think it's a lot of BS yet I would lvoe to know why some people would be so cruel to think this way in the first place other than the obvious reason that they just can be cruel.

I agree, I know a couple of girls that have lived fulltime for a few years, done hormones for years and have had SRS. They are only like a AA or A cup. People are too judgemental in that aspect. Can we say the same about guys with small penis and if they get a penis enlargement they get accepted and praised...

[kristopin]

i agree rants

i agree 100% with your sentiments rants and paula. gender is not an issue of sex it is an issue of the mind and soul. you dont have to have huge tits to be a tgirl. its what is in your soul that counts. the only girls that might say this are those whose $'s might be threatened. they forget that once they also had no tits. its mean and selfish. phew got that out of me.

and besides that what if there was a cd that is more feminine than some of the others. if someone likes that person they like the person. love counts NOT sex.

[Heather Anne Peel]

Who we are is on the inside, period.

[Rantsalot]

...

Frankly I really don't care about what other people say or do with their lives. The one thing I really hate is people getting involved in other peoples business especially if they know nothing about them.


"Oh ! Did you hear she has breasts now. I also heard she went to Switzerland and got the surgery done fast and then got kidnapped....blah blah blah"

It's like one big never ending soap opera.

Like sand through the hour glass these are The Gays ...sorry..."Days of Our Lives."

If people want to share something of themselves then that's their call

[Wiseone26]

Frankly I really don't care about what other people say or do with their lives. The one thing I really hate is people getting involved in other peoples business especially if they know nothing about of them.

"Oh ! Did you hear she has breasts now. I also heard she went to Switzerland and got the surgery done fast and then got kidnapped....blah blah blah"

It's like one big never ending soap opera.

Like sand through the hour glass these are The Gays ...sorry..."Days of Our Lives."

Atta Boy, Rant away!

[far2crazy]

Personally I think it's a lot of BS yet I would love to know why some people would be so cruel to think and talk this way in the first place other than the obvious reason that they just can and it's their "right" to be cruel.

here here, I'm a guy who has had nearly a c cup from being overweight and I'm never been looking feminine. (granted those are long gone due to weight loss)
there is more to it then cup size. attitude and bearing are a lot of it.

[sensual_lover20]

I was also a C cup back in the day from my weight.

Rants, you have breasts now?!? Where do I make my incall!

[tslisaparadise]

you can't imagine how many times i have heard this at some of the toronto bars that i've visited on occasion. A girl who is transitioning doesn't have breasts. A few people take it upon themselves to say that they are nothing more than a crossdresser or tv.

Skip ahead a few months

the girl who people labeled now has breasts and now everybody has praise for her. It's as if that is the step to finally be welcomed and accepted into the shemale world so to speak.

Personally i think it's a lot of bs yet i would love to know why some people would be so cruel to think and talk this way in the first place other than the obvious reason that they just can and it's their "right" to be cruel.

ya i hear it all the time its silly

[toban]

You are definitely not alone in thinking that way Rantsalot

I have persistently pointed this out to one of our "senior" girls who is always very keen on targeting any new girls because they are, as she claims, only CD's / TV's, therefore not fit to use the term Shemale.

One such MTL girl was about to visit Toronto a few years ago. Because of such abuse she refused to return to TO. Her response to the goading she received on this Forum can be read here http://tgirlforums.com/yabbse/showpost.php?p=99331&postcount=12

This same girl completed her transition not long after this incident and is now a well known performer on Black T-Girls, Shemales from Hell and Shemale Strokers. Quite a feat for a mere CD eh?

- - - - - - A girl who is transitioning doesn't have breasts. A few people take it upon themselves to say that they are nothing more than a crossdresser or tv. - - - - - Skip ahead a few months

The girl who people labeled now has breasts and now everybody has praise for her. - - - - - .

[ShaunaWilliams]

Wow I've never heard of this, granted, I am pretty new to the scene. I wear falsies and a lot of guys can't even tell, they ask me what size my tits are and I tell them straight up they aren't implants or natural hormone grown tits and I have yet to get a truly negative response.

Whereabouts are you getting this negative response? I have only frequented Goodhandys (Thursday only) and Play.

[milkandhoney]

there are a few on here who have made it their business to target anyone who doesn't have or want to spend $8,000 to get a boob job. the stupid thing is, many of the girls they harass are more passable than they are--even with their big boobs.
anyway, i have never been able to figure out why SPENDING ALL YOUR MONEY ON SURGERY makes someone a True Tgirl. mostly it means you've been escorting a long time, and have been able to save the money, because you don't have any other goals in life other than looking like a porn star. i wonder how they will feel when they are 60 years old.
anyway, sometimes a gay guy with fake boobs is still a guy with boobs, and no different from a CD.

[capitus]

Marginalized populations continue the cycle of maginalization...

• In the black community there is colourism (lighter shades are percieved as better, caucasian features are precieved as better)...Further, in California during a recent referendum, in which blacks came out to vote in unprecedented numbers, gays were denied the right to marry. Some have considered this a consequence of such a high African American vote.
• Israeli occupation of Gaza and the west bank is erily similar to oppression Jews had experienced in Europe.
• The gay community tends to be pseudo-oppresive of transgendered people (see a recent thread)...
• The transgendered community tends to marginalize those transitioning, crossdressers, TV's or those percieved as different but invading the same sociological niche.

OF COURSE THESE ARE OVERSIMPLIFIED GENERALIZATIONS AND EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES MAY APPLY TO INDIVIDUAL INTERACTIONS AND BY NO MEANS DOES EVERYONE IN THESE POPULATIONS ACT THIS WAY....


There is definitely an "Us vs Them" mentality, and the difference between 'Us' and 'Them' can be almost trivial. Similar activites were seen in the Stanford Prison Experiment (Zimbardo, et al. 1971)...

...as long as we see other people as 'Them' and not 'Us' we will continue to victimize those we see as different, even if the difference is only a Cup size.

...man, I need a drink....

[CokeDiete]

I agree, I know a couple of girls that have lived fulltime for a few years, done hormones for years and have had SRS. They are only like a AA or A cup. People are too judgemental in that aspect. Can we say the same about guys with small penis and if they get a penis enlargement they get accepted and praised...

I agree I love my small tits. They are more real than any silicone balloon out there. So sensitive and natural. I hope when I get my implants my sensitivity remains. And of course it'll look as cute or cuter!

[ssster2009]

Heh tits are for kids. I saw a girl the last time I was in Vegas who was as feminine and passable as you can imagine, but very small breasts. I try not to judge based on something so portable, in this day and age, as the cupsize of a girl

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