what comes after judgement?

[sunshine]

I don't have a habit of starting new posts on the forum although I sometimes enjoy responding on interesting subjects. Today, I was thinking that there is nothing to lose in posting - just an opportunity to open up to interesting opinions.

It is a fact that we cannot operate without judgement. From the simple act of ordering food in a restaurant to the hard decisions of what to do about people who put you in harm's way, we all make judgements. Some of us make those judgements based on opinion and some make judgements based on some sort of intellectual reasoning. That is not what I would like to ask here though.

Once you have made a judgement, what comes next? Let's say that you make a judgement that a certain person is bad in some way, too unlike yourself to be acceptable to you. What then? Do you segregate yourself? Do you attack? Do you provoke to attack? Do you ignore? Do you condemn?

If we are all unique individual (we certainly are that) then judgement can be passed on each of us depending on the criteria used. Are we all condemned then? Or are some of us the chosen few? Some of us the unpardonable?

What do you think?

[Aston Martin]

What comes next is an other judgement call. You can choose or choose what not to choose to do next. But what you shouldn't do is look back on incorrect judgement calls with regret. If you find you have made an incorrect judgement call then that just means it is time to make another judgement call and move forward. good luck

[lucy]

what happened in Calgary( i don't wanna go into details) was mean and effected all of us including you.so stop it and we'll do the same thing,and we'll be peacefull as we are willing to,or continue and we'll react the same way that you experienced....


QUOTE=sunshine;201354]I don't have a habit of starting new posts on the forum although I sometimes enjoy responding on interesting subjects. Today, I was thinking that there is nothing to lose in posting - just an opportunity to open up to interesting opinions.

It is a fact that we cannot operate without judgement. From the simple act of ordering food in a restaurant to the hard decisions of what to do about people who put you in harm's way, we all make judgements. Some of us make those judgements based on opinion and some make judgements based on some sort of intellectual reasoning. That is not what I would like to ask here though.

Once you have made a judgement, what comes next? Let's say that you make a judgement that a certain person is bad in some way, too unlike yourself to be acceptable to you. What then? Do you segregate yourself? Do you attack? Do you provoke to attack? Do you ignore? Do you condemn?

If we are all unique individual (we certainly are that) then judgement can be passed on each of us depending on the criteria used. Are we all condemned then? Or are some of us the chosen few? Some of us the unpardonable?

What do you think?[/QUOTE]

[sunshine]

of course

Aston Martin you make a very good point. Regret does not serve anyone. However judgement arrives as the outcome of past experience, whether arrived at by emotion or reason. Future judgements are no different. Can we learn from the past, without regret, and move forward with creativity? Or will we forever repeat history?

Lucy, some say that it is the weak who cry for peace. I disagree. I think that it is the courageous who call for it. The brave who call forth a future where bitterness is set aside and differences are disregarded in favour of what is laudable and dignified. In favour of what is good in all of us.

This forum is a meeting place for people who have left the norm in their dust. What a wonderful opportunity to share in the freedom of expression so many deny themselves in the world. I would like to celebrate our differences Lucy, in peace. Thank you for the eloquent responses Aston Martin and Lucy.

[toban]

My take on judgement & condemnation

- - - - - - Once you have made a judgement, what comes next? Let's say that you make a judgement that a certain person is bad in some way, too unlike yourself to be acceptable to you. What then?

If we are all unique individual (we certainly are that) then judgement can be passed on each of us depending on the criteria used. Are we all condemned then? Or are some of us the chosen few? Some of us the unpardonable?
What do you think?

Certainly every person on this earth judges every other person they come in contact with, and some even those they do not know. Also, everyone has their own qualities, both good and not so good, and I amongst them know that because of some of my qualities, I am considered unacceptable to some others. That is their priviledge as I see it, and I feel that in turn, I too, have that same priviledge of choosing those whose qualities I prefer.

I can not agree at all that we are all condemned, although there are none of us who may not be condemned by someone, but surely not condemned by all. If all others condemn me I know that my Mother will never do so!

Nor do I see that some of us may be one of the chosen few or be the unpardonable. I do know some folks though, that are sure they are! Some of them happen to be very active on this Forum too!

What would I do?
This is rather hard to answer because if this person is only unacceptable to me alone, then certain actions would not be appropriate, whereas if the person was unacceptable to a group of others or to the community then the actions might be very different. I assume then that this person we refer to, is unacceptable only to me and my responses are given accordingly.
So:
- I sometimes make arrangements to avoid any unnecessary contact with such a person. e.g. I will not initiate any action that would bring us together. I would in a sense exclude them from my life whenever possible.

- I doubt that I would attack them or provoke them since that will be counter-productive and likely cause even more distance between us.

- To ignore such a person whenever possible is likely the most beneficial in my opinion. There are times though when we are bound to have to deal with those we can not stand, but such dealings can be carried out with civility to prevent causing a greater divide between us.

- Condemnation is a very difficult matter to conceive of. I can't condemn because to do so requires much more authority than I possess. Also there are so many degrees of variation that while someone may be unacceptable in my eyes, to another person they may not appear that undesirable, therefore how could I justify condemnation.

Rather than condemning another, I might advise others I have contact with, of this persons unacceptable qualities, as I see them, and let the other person make their own decision.

So Sunshine I don't know whether my take on your question is what you were expecting or maybe I have missed the intent of your post.

[sunshine]

there is no right answer is there?

So many insightful points Toban. You have a wonderful sensibility. It is as you say - an infinitely variable horizon of possible actions for as varied a number of situations.

Since this forum is focused on T-Girls (just quoting the name of the forum), it is understandable that the members might be naturally inclined to think beyond the box (no pun intended but I'll take them where I can find them). The T-Girls that congregate here are no different. However, we are all human and the life of a T-Girl is a hard road to travel. Easy to feel persecuted, easy to see ennemies all around, easy to lose sight of the feminine perspective we identified with to begin with. Too easy to feel isolated and misunderstood even if it may not be the case.

Maybe what we see in this forum is a drama being played out that is as much a function of an inner struggle as it is of an outer debacle. We have as much opportunity to heal as we do to wound.

Thank you Doctor Toban. (anytime you need a nurse, let me know...)

[lucy]

Forgiveness is the gratest instrument of peace.
Can we not share it?
Lucy

[sunshine]

something in common

Now we have something in common. I was surprised but very happy to see your two posts here. You are right of course, in both of your posts. I would rather see posts like these than those I have seen recently on this forum, what about you Lucy?

You rock girl!

[LOLA_]

Forgiveness is the gratest instrument of peace.
Can we not share it?
Lucy

I agree I think too much emotion is kill people human side, every one is beautiful in somehow.At least forum will be different than just business, thanks sunsine...we r open if any heart door open to us,

[sunshine]

If we can't agree, then who will?

We have more in common with each other than we do with most other people. If we can't look at each other with some kindness, then who will have kindness for us?

Thank you for the post and the beautiful sentiment Lola

[LOLA_]

We have more in common with each other than we do with most other people. If we can't look at each other with some kindness, then who will have kindness for us?

Thank you for the post and the beautiful sentiment Lola

all my life I protect who I said Hi, I loved, I felt as a friend...You very welcome to be a friend from now

[sunshine]

about this business

I agree I think too much emotion is kill people human side, every one is beautiful in somehow.At least forum will be different than just business, thanks sunsine...we r open if any heart door open to us,

You know, Lola, if this business means we have to be mean to each other, then there is really something wrong. The business will take care of itself - it's the oldest profession in the world! And I think that alot of men like to have a choice - some men even call it "getting some strange", getting something different. So having a selection of girls is good for the business. And what is good for the business is good for us girl! So if a man isn't happy with me, maybe he will like Lola or maybe it will be the other way around too. Either way, the man will be satisfied, and we will too.

[Rantsalot]

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Hopefully there won't be any bickering on this or any other thread.

Cheers!

[toban]

May your wish come true Rantsalot!

Hopefully there won't be any bickering on this or any other thread.

Cheers!

As hard as I try, I can't quite understand the significance of this thread. Apparently something of some importance happened in Calgary that seems to have brought three girls to the point that they admit that they should all forgive and forget whatever it was that happened, and live harmoniously ever after.

Geez what the hell happened out there in the wild west? I am getting curiouser and curiouser by the minute just wondering what took place, though I must admit that I could be enticed into placing a bet on what it was, but am not sure who might have done it, whatever it may have been!

Maybe, it just may be, this means that this apparent truce is a start and that there will be no bickering between these three, Rantsalot! Maybe too, a few more of our very vociferous girls will sign on to this pact so we can enjoy a peaceful, harmonious place to visit and discuss Shemale matters without all the acrimony.

Here's hoping your wish comes true!

[toban]

Stand by Nurse to be On-Call!

Thank you Doctor Toban. (anytime you need a nurse, let me know...)

- thank you Nurse and have your proctoscope ready for emergency use!