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    Some few months ago, Admin did alot of work to try to accomplish something very honourable when he set new guidelines for fighting and attacking on the forum. I am not a moderator here nor do I pretend to understand everything that is going on but I wanted to say something on this topic because I am very concerned.

    I would like readers to consider what I say and respond with their opinion. And please... I do not want to start an argument here. I am asking for real opinions and constructive comments.

    First, the dictionary definition of "bully": A quarrelsome, swaggering, cowardly fellow,; one who terrorizes or threatens those weaker than himself.

    It has long been agreed that young children are detrimentally affected by bullying. So much so that it has been directly linked to shootings, murder, and suicide. But children are not the only ones affected by bullying. Nobody enjoys being singled out and publicly ridiculed or attacked. This can be devastating. It can also anger the victim to the breaking point and this can lead to a direct or a symbolic attack on the bully. Bullying can begin a cycle of violence and intolerance that can only end in widespread damage.

    Why are shemales so catty? Why is there bullying going on? Here is my take on it:

    Most transsexuals begin their transition from a perspective of a basic and profound dissatisfaction with something about themselves. It is so strong that it can be an imperative to action. But transition itself brings difficulties and new questions arise. I believe that things are a bit better out there now but a transsexual still faces critisism, prejudice, and discrimination. Not to belabour all this, I am trying to say that there is a strong possibility that uncertainty and self-doubt play a role in the beginnings of bullying.

    The difficulty is this: If one transsexual, out of a feeling of self-doubt or uncertainty, begins to project out onto others these feelings, this may give rise to a tendency to bully these others. From a falsely perceived sense of persecution, we move into a real case of bullying. The victim then seeks retribution and may even flip and become a bully in her own right. This can go on for a long time and an ever-expanding wave of damage can be seen emanating from ground zero, very much like a tsunami.

    At any time, someone can step in and say something to try to prevent further damage. At any time, someone can step in and commit more bullying which will make things worse.

    The above presumes that we are destined to only react and are never able to act. The above presumes that we are never able to conceive of a constructive goal and to take action to manifest it.

    This forum is public. We are lucky to have it. It offers us the opportunity to be with those of like mind who accept transsexuality and it can be a place to have a honest and open dialogue. My opinion is that bullying tarnishes what we have here, makes it dirty and foul. I think that we should think before we speak. If we have a disagreement with someone, we should deal with it privately with that person rather than bully them in the forum.

    I am not saying we cannot freely express ourselves in the forum. I am saying that it should be done in a respectful way. We should try to break this cyscle and create a comfortable place for ourselves.

    Sunshine
    www.ts-sunshine.ca You may find many copies of my style around but I am proud to be an original. If you want a beautiful shemale, I'm your girl.

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    True

    Wow. Sunshine that really was well writen and very true. You hit the nail on the head. After rereading what you just wrote. I have to admit that I did what you are talking about. I was in a way pushed to my breaking point, but that does not give me reason to cross the very line I am complaining about!

    Thank you....I think it might need to take sometime away from this forum to regroup myself so I can deal with some of these girls in a much more normal way!

    Tasha
    Peace, Love & Sex is how I am spending my days

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    • #3
      Well said Sunshine. I've always been of the opinion that people resort to bullying because they themselves lack self esteem. This knowledge however, while understandable in the abstract, does little to assuage the harm done to those who are the victims. Bullies also create an atmosphere of mistrust and fear which prevents other people from getting involved, and so the bullies feel they have scored some sort of victory.
      It says something about human nature that often those who have been bullied in the past tend to bully others in turn given the chance.
      It's sad, but hopefully not cast in stone. Discussion is the first step towards change.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sunshine View Post
        Some few months ago, Admin did alot of work to try to accomplish something very honourable when he set new guidelines for fighting and attacking on the forum. I am not a moderator here nor do I pretend to understand everything that is going on but I wanted to say something on this topic because I am very concerned.

        I would like readers to consider what I say and respond with their opinion. And please... I do not want to start an argument here. I am asking for real opinions and constructive comments.

        First, the dictionary definition of "bully": A quarrelsome, swaggering, cowardly fellow,; one who terrorizes or threatens those weaker than himself.

        It has long been agreed that young children are detrimentally affected by bullying. So much so that it has been directly linked to shootings, murder, and suicide. But children are not the only ones affected by bullying. Nobody enjoys being singled out and publicly ridiculed or attacked. This can be devastating. It can also anger the victim to the breaking point and this can lead to a direct or a symbolic attack on the bully. Bullying can begin a cycle of violence and intolerance that can only end in widespread damage.

        Why are shemales so catty? Why is there bullying going on? Here is my take on it:

        Most transsexuals begin their transition from a perspective of a basic and profound dissatisfaction with something about themselves. It is so strong that it can be an imperative to action. But transition itself brings difficulties and new questions arise. I believe that things are a bit better out there now but a transsexual still faces critisism, prejudice, and discrimination. Not to belabour all this, I am trying to say that there is a strong possibility that uncertainty and self-doubt play a role in the beginnings of bullying.

        The difficulty is this: If one transsexual, out of a feeling of self-doubt or uncertainty, begins to project out onto others these feelings, this may give rise to a tendency to bully these others. From a falsely perceived sense of persecution, we move into a real case of bullying. The victim then seeks retribution and may even flip and become a bully in her own right. This can go on for a long time and an ever-expanding wave of damage can be seen emanating from ground zero, very much like a tsunami.

        At any time, someone can step in and say something to try to prevent further damage. At any time, someone can step in and commit more bullying which will make things worse.

        The above presumes that we are destined to only react and are never able to act. The above presumes that we are never able to conceive of a constructive goal and to take action to manifest it.

        This forum is public. We are lucky to have it. It offers us the opportunity to be with those of like mind who accept transsexuality and it can be a place to have a honest and open dialogue. My opinion is that bullying tarnishes what we have here, makes it dirty and foul. I think that we should think before we speak. If we have a disagreement with someone, we should deal with it privately with that person rather than bully them in the forum.

        I am not saying we cannot freely express ourselves in the forum. I am saying that it should be done in a respectful way. We should try to break this cyscle and create a comfortable place for ourselves.

        Sunshine
        Hi Sunshine I think your topic, is extremely well timed. what I witnessed as a individual the last 3 days was extremely cruel to read. (I have been bedridden for a couple of days,bad bug) ) so I have had a little extra time to wander through the different sites that interest me,.

        In one topic on this forum, I mentioned you and a few elite ladies in my comments, nothing more, nothing less, just an of the cuff reaction to a comment.

        I came back the next day, and all hell had busted out, sides were chosen and the dog fight started, with huge amount of bulling ,it finally needed to be closed,Thankful,

        I must admit some of the comments and descriptive language were not what I had expected from certain ladies ,but when the pit bulls were turned loose there was no surprise.

        I learned volumes about what goes on inside those beautiful heads ,it is scary, almost built up toxic venom that was waiting to explode.,

        I really think its sad, that a topic as harmless, as this was and ladies were giving good comments etc,that the outcome was so tactless and cruel.

        I hope they as a group can do better, it certainly changed my view on a number of ladies and others, nothing but admiration

        its an imperfect world we live

        but why would you try to hurt one of your own sisters is a mystery to me

        there is enough rejection in the world, why would they not use their forum for the good of the community is another mystery.
        Duke

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        • #5
          Listen to Sunshine she is wise.

          Quit being a bunch of redneck yokels.
          ladyboy.reviews

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          • #6
            Originally posted by crag rockheart View Post
            listen to sunshine she is wise.

            Quit being a bunch of redneck yokels.
            speaking of rednecks lol i was litening to my local news today and there was a bulitin out for a crime that was committed last night appearently somebody broke in to this guys place and stoled 6 sheep from there yard and im thinkin holy shit if thats a breaking news story around here i must be a damn redneck lol
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            • #7
              Hi Sunshine,

              Very well written. I really hope all the girls in this forum read your thoughts and try a little harder to be nice to eachother.

              I don't know if the girls understand how us guys, paying customers feel from this end.

              kona

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sunshine View Post
                Some few months ago, Admin did alot of work to try to accomplish something very honourable when he set new guidelines for fighting and attacking on the forum. I am not a moderator here nor do I pretend to understand everything that is going on but I wanted to say something on this topic because I am very concerned. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sunshine

                Sunshine, you have expressed my thoughts so much forcefully and clearer than I could have ever done myself. I am certain that I know what thread had inspired you to post this exhortation to those involved, and thankfully that thread has now been locked, stopping further derogatory posts from being added.

                Those girls involved should realize that what they are doing is so pointless and that they are doing much more harm to themselves than they are to those whom they so willingly attack, for those of us who may be interested in possibly meeting them, are turned away by their insensitive attacks on their sisters.

                I strongly believe, that this forum itself will also suffer a loss for allowing these repugnant posts to continue so long without any apparent action being taken to control it. Unfortunately, some members already appear to be disenchanted with this nasty behaviour of girls they may have once admired. I must agree with Crag, Duke, Kona and Cobbler.

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                • #9
                  Hi Sunshine,
                  Very sage words you have written. I have seen this forum transform from a wonderful medium of expression for trangendered people and those that admire them, into a bitchfest between rival SP's and invisible bigots that want to create controversy. I'm not sure how to make it better, but I know that banning people is not the answer. We are all human beings and deserve respect. Perhaps. we should think before we write or type the garbage that I have read in some threads recently. Just my thoughts.
                  Sam

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                  • #10
                    tell us

                    Originally posted by konaexposif View Post
                    Hi Sunshine,

                    Very well written. I really hope all the girls in this forum read your thoughts and try a little harder to be nice to eachother.

                    I don't know if the girls understand how us guys, paying customers feel from this end.

                    kona
                    I may be wrong but I see no evidence to suggest that I am. The bullying does not come from just any Tgirl. It comes from SPs. Now Kona, you bring this into focus but maybe you should go further. Maybe you should tell us how it makes you feel, as a client, to be a witness to this bullying. Maybe if SPs realized that they are losing clients by behaving like this, it would encourage them to change their approach. And please everybody... I am not generalizing here... I am not saying that all SPs are bullies.

                    So, if you can spare a moment Kona to tell us how it makes you feel, I think that I am not alone in wanting to hear you.

                    Nobody is immune to this and nobody can claim to have never spoken out in anger. But if we keep talking about it, maybe we can win back our faith in each other and once again share with everybody here in a respectful and meaningful way.

                    As an SP myself, I would not want Admin to start generalizing and to ban me from the forum just because of my occupation. I think there is room in the forum for both SPs and non-SPs, for clients and admirers. But I think we need to stay sharp and watch out for this bullying or we risk losing the forum's best friends in disgust and all that will be left here will be the ones who enjoy laughing at the expense of others.

                    Sunshine
                    www.ts-sunshine.ca You may find many copies of my style around but I am proud to be an original. If you want a beautiful shemale, I'm your girl.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tslisaparadise View Post
                      speaking of rednecks lol i was litening to my local news today and there was a bulitin out for a crime that was committed last night appearently somebody broke in to this guys place and stoled 6 sheep from there yard and im thinkin holy shit if thats a breaking news story around here i must be a damn redneck lol
                      Ya, and it was a sexual assault news story too!
                      "The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money costs less." -Brendan Francis :D

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sunshine View Post
                        I may be wrong but I see no evidence to suggest that I am. The bullying does not come from just any Tgirl. It comes from SPs. Now Kona, you bring this into focus but maybe you should go further. Maybe you should tell us how it makes you feel, as a client, to be a witness to this bullying. Maybe if SPs realized that they are losing clients by behaving like this, it would encourage them to change their approach. And please everybody... I am not generalizing here... I am not saying that all SPs are bullies.

                        So, if you can spare a moment Kona to tell us how it makes you feel, I think that I am not alone in wanting to hear you.

                        Nobody is immune to this and nobody can claim to have never spoken out in anger. But if we keep talking about it, maybe we can win back our faith in each other and once again share with everybody here in a respectful and meaningful way.

                        As an SP myself, I would not want Admin to start generalizing and to ban me from the forum just because of my occupation. I think there is room in the forum for both SPs and non-SPs, for clients and admirers. But I think we need to stay sharp and watch out for this bullying or we risk losing the forum's best friends in disgust and all that will be left here will be the ones who enjoy laughing at the expense of others.

                        Sunshine
                        Sushine
                        I am so into meeting you one day
                        your truly a breath of fresh air
                        A real class act
                        any one would be proud to have you as a friend
                        Duke

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by maddplotter View Post
                          ya, and it was a sexual assault news story too! :d
                          we dont do sheep in these parts fucker lol
                          SEMI-RETIRED 519-209-3058

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tslisaparadise View Post
                            we dont do sheep in these parts fucker lol
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                            "The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money costs less." -Brendan Francis :D

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                            • #15
                              On a serious note, I am pretty surprised to see some of the arguing going on. I am trying to follow some of the threads and I can see that there is quite a history of animosity between some tgirls. There are incidences and accusations mentioned that some of us are totally unaware of. For example, one girl called the cops on a visiting tgirl? Really? Maybe it's time for a timeout. It is too idealistic to have everyone be friends and chummy but I think we need to calm down and leave the anger behind.
                              "The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money costs less." -Brendan Francis :D

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