What happened to the Barbie Thread

[Tia Phoenixx]

You are one classy lady Sunshine...very eloquent and logical. Kudos to you sister.

I agree

This racism and bigotted responses about tgirl have been going on for years and years without any improvement at all.

No worries Sunshine...i think we'll be fine!

[cobbler]

in for a penny...

First, I feel I should point out again that Lisa is an actual moderator of the forum and is therefore in a different position than us mere members.
If she can't police her own posts how can she be a competent moderator?This was not simply political incorrectness, this was hate speech.
I'm not thin skinned, in fact I can be downright callous sometimes, but on the subject of blatant discrimination I have no grey areas in my opinions.
To say I should simply report as abuse and not comment is denying me the right to tell the forum that she doesn't speak for me or any other "real" Canadian.
And as for Barbie, she's seemingly bent on insulting everyone she can for shock value. Harmless enough except when she names names and describes activities which could get the club shut down. Stream of consiousness is all well and good until it harms the livelihood of other people.
Put that in your pipe and blow bubbles.
And thank you Sunshine for continuing to be a voice of reason in the wilderness.

[tslisaparadise]

While Lisa needs some lessons on being a little more politically correct.

You people need to quit making such a big fucking deal about this stuff.
If you don't like it report it, don't reply to it.
It just makes you look ridiculous.

Yes Lisa thinks people are becoming Canadian citizens too easily now days and many do not respect us for it.
It is true people of European descent who founded this country (mostly white) are now the minority.
Plain and simple, why can't she say that?
Because you are too touchy?

She never pointed to a specific race or said you were one of the culprits.
In fact I believe she feels the same about white people from Russia and Bulgaria
In fact Canada has restricted immigration from certain countries recently including Bulgaria and Mexico because their citizens WERE taking unfair advantage or our immigration policiies.
Sunshine you came to our country and joined in with the rest of us.
In fact the people coming to our country and trying to change us to their way, would never allow us to do the same thing in their country.

Why would you think Lisa represents the views of the forum.
She is merely a personality here and has her own views.
I don't think her views are racist rather they are imperialist.

If you constantly have to threaten to leave the forum over every stupid little thing, then go already.
Otherwise please start having a thicker skin.
You are just reading things into it you do not have to.

Lisa try to be a little more politically correct.
White people aren't allowed to have opinions.

Why can't we have a discussion of caucasians becoming a minority in Canada.
They are, it's a fact.
Why do many of you feel it is racist to talk about hardships of whites?
Every other minority can say they are so hard done by, why can't a white person.

Can't we ever discuss anything without someone getting upset.
We should be able to discuss things like this.

Maybe give someone an iota of a break one time here.

You guys analyze the text as to find any mis-spelling or phrase that could remotely offend anyone on earth.
Get over it, people are never going to make a picture perfect post and u have to stop jumping all over each other because of it.

sweet thats exactly how i fell thank you

[tslisaparadise]

First, I feel I should point out again that Lisa is an actual moderator of the forum and is therefore in a different position than us mere members.
If she can't police her own posts how can she be a competent moderator?This was not simply political incorrectness, this was hate speech.
I'm not thin skinned, in fact I can be downright callous sometimes, but on the subject of blatant discrimination I have no grey areas in my opinions.
To say I should simply report as abuse and not comment is denying me the right to tell the forum that she doesn't speak for me or any other "real" Canadian.
And as for Barbie, she's seemingly bent on insulting everyone she can for shock value. Harmless enough except when she names names and describes activities which could get the club shut down. Stream of consiousness is all well and good until it harms the livelihood of other people.
Put that in your pipe and blow bubbles.
And thank you Sunshine for continuing to be a voice of reason in the wilderness.

my opinions come from me only not from a mod or admin when are you idiots gonna get that through your think skulls?the fact that 3 of you morons think im racist offends me so shut the fuck up and move on got it?
sunshines posts speak for themselves period threatening me isnt a very nice thing to do especially since she knows i could mop the floor with her with my eyes closed so wheres your negativity against her you morons.

[Rantsalot]

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How about this then as a solution to the ongoing problem.

As of right now let us all stop talking about what was said by EVERYONE in the 2 previously said threads.

Its obvious members now have ideas about other members opinions/personalities and thats fine but as an idea I say we all start with a clean slate, forget the past and move on however I do understand that the likelihood of something like this might happen again and propose a different action plan that may stop the fire from spreading so to speak. I can consult the governing bodies about the idea in weeks to come.

Take Admins advice though.If you dont like whats said either - report the statement if it violates the rules or say nothing but also try and show some tolerance as we are all different.


I would rather not see this site become so utterly politically correct and prim and proper that eventually you can't say "damn" without being chastised.

[fifthace]

My opinion

I agree with alot of what Lisa say's, Canada is a melting pot of people, and I have no trouble with people that want to come here, BUT once here they should become a Canadian, we should not have to bend to meet their beleifs. Look a things like a mounted police wearing a turbin, I'm sorry but the mounty has been a symble in canada for years, in the new's the women in quebec that gets kicked out of school for not removing her burka, thoughs are the rules if you don't like it you can leave. Then you get an ass like McGuiny changing the rules so 3 years after they come to canada they can get old age pension. Me am I pregidous YES against the people who want my counrty to change, if you don't like it LEAVE !!!!

[cobbler]

How about this then as a solution to the ongoing problem.

As of right now let us all stop talking about what was said by EVERYONE in the 2 previously said threads.

Its obvious members now have ideas about other members opinions/personalities and thats fine but as an idea I say we all start with a clean slate, forget the past and move on however I do understand that the likelihood of something like this might happen again and propose a different action plan that may stop the fire from spreading so to speak. I can consult the governing bodies about the idea in weeks to come.

Take Admins advice though.If you dont like whats said either - report the statement if it violates the rules or say nothing but also try and show some tolerance as we are all different.


I would rather not see this site become so utterly politically correct and prim and proper that eventually you can't say "damn" without being chastised.

Hey Rants,
I had my little rant, so don't worry about me. I do have to say though, I think I'm usually pretty tolerant of most of the bile I see on here, but rest assured if I see racist remarks I'm going to comment. I can't help myself. That's how I was raised and how I raised my children. It's not about tolerance, it's about basic human dignity.
That's it. I'm out, damn it.

[sunshine]

I apologize

cobbler listen to me very carefully go fuck yourself did ya get that?my opinions come from me only not from a mod or admin when are you idiots gonna get that through your think skulls?the fact that 3 of you morons think im racist offends me so shut the fuck up and move on got it?sunshines posts speak for themselves period threatening me isnt a very nice thing to do especially since she knows i could mop the floor with her with my eyes closed so wheres your negativity against her you morons.

I'm going to take Rantsalot advice and forget the last few days.

[tslisaparadise]

I apologize Lisa for the threats and the words spoken in anger. We were doing good you and I before this mess. I would like to get back to the way it was before between you and I, if you are willing.

In the future, I will endeavor to answer without anger. I slipped and I'm sorry. You DO bring alot to the forum. You are honest and forthright, you have a sharp wit, and you are down-to-earth. Those are all good qualities.

Honest discussion is good and we ought to be able to speak openly about anything. Not that this forum has any power to change the world. But change happens through individual expression and action, so who knows?

Sunshine

no worries kiddo i am who i am im not a racist i just love my country if i were black id say the same damn thing just because im white doesnt mean shit i am a canadian first and trust me im more coulered blind then most,i said silly things to piss a couple people off in here starting with the retard who posted the second post knocking white people for running the country too long now if your gonna talk racism thats the idiot whos a racist now me.think about this my boyfriend is colombian indian my best girlfriend is black and the one girl i rented along time ago wasnt exactly white now are you lol.

[tslisaparadise]

I agree with alot of what Lisa say's, Canada is a melting pot of people, and I have no trouble with people that want to come here, BUT once here they should become a Canadian, we should not have to bend to meet their beleifs. Look a things like a mounted police wearing a turbin, I'm sorry but the mounty has been a symble in canada for years, in the new's the women in quebec that gets kicked out of school for not removing her burka, thoughs are the rules if you don't like it you can leave. Then you get an ass like McGuiny changing the rules so 3 years after they come to canada they can get old age pension. Me am I pregidous YES against the people who want my counrty to change, if you don't like it LEAVE !!!!

co-sign and dont forget the pricks who come to canada and complain to city hall thats we cant put up a christmas tree and call it christmas because it offends them fucking idiots.they should try pulling that shit in smalltown canada and see how fast they get strung up in a tree.

[tslisaparadise]

I am glad you totally understand where I am coming from.

I want to foster discussion here not reaction.

If someone can't have and opinion without everyone calling them names it would leave us in a pretty sad state.

Plus since when can't white people be just as proud as blacks or any other colour. If anyone says "White Pride" they are automatically a racist or Nazi. I can be proud and Gay but not proud and white?
I think a manner of reverse discrimination has entered our society.

carefull a couple of wingnuts might think your racist lol

[wellhungone]

Wow, sorry

Wow, I think Admin is correct. Everyone needs to settle down.

I just voiced my dismay with Barbie's post, I (personally) felt that it was not approperiate to trash talk like that.

I didn't see anything with Lucy being a bigot, I beleive she is far from that ( plus very beautiful).

Lisa's comments are always enjoyed, say it like it is.

I agree with Kitaina - what an amazing day today !

[prettyboy]

co-sign and dont forget the pricks who come to canada and complain to city hall thats we cant put up a christmas tree and call it christmas because it offends them fucking idiots.they should try pulling that shit in smalltown canada and see how fast they get strung up in a tree.

I totally agree with the 'white team ' on that, and I think it is great to be white proud and Canadian. The people who objected to the infamous thread were pissed off about the blatant racial slurs that were being thrown into the discussion, not the being 'white and proud' bit. Also it was not Lisa ,she just egged them on and gave them a skirt to hide behind. lol

[Tia Phoenixx]

You have had enough of what?
Fuck me for what.
Look if you are going to over react, you better have an opinion.
i fail to see what you are so upset about.

Point to me where Lisa called you these names.

You are mad because you are a landed immigrant and Lisa doesn't like that?
No one said Lisa's view were't kind of stupid but they are hers.

I am not allowed to say "White Power"
Does that make u mad.

Come on.

As she has clearly stated that she is very sensitive over racial issue, and i totally understand that.

I personally do not take this racial comments seriously, but again, Sunshine is right, this is an open forum: everybody shoud be careful on sensitive issue like this. As you've mentioned: be politically correct.

We need you on this forum Sunshine, please do not leave us.
Btw, I miss Toban too. How's he btw?

[Tia Phoenixx]

I know she takes it seriously and Lisa did call her names in the past for sure.

I have reviewed the previous thread completely now.
It looked just fine until Lisa said:

"Everyone knows 90% of prison inmates are non-white"

That appears to be what Sunshine is mad about from what I can see.

Now, if it was me I would have run out and found some stats that showed how ignorant Lisa was about what she said.
People disagree, this happens to be a touchy subject.

I have tried to find stats to prove her wrong.
But haven't found anything exactly yet.
79% of prisoners in Saskatchewan prisons are of aboriginal descent.
They are considered non-white or european however they are Canadians by Lisa's definition.
However only 4% of all prisoners in Canada are Aboriginal.
So given that there has to be quite a few white dudes in prison Lisa.
Lest you forget all the crooked politicians are mostly white?

Toban is not here because he totally hates Lisa and can't stand the fact that she is a moderator but not really a moderator. Plus he just can't stand her and never has been able to. But he was definitely boycotting until i take Lisa's picture down.

Lisa is pissing me off with the last couple posts i just deleted tho.
I think it's time to step away from the computer and power down for the day Lisa.

Great response. Thanks

Ok, let's move forward then!